Others DiBS: Tentacles in Spaaace [v0.8.3] [MoxieTouch]

[Beggarman]

Not really, I mean you could just give her an arousal pistol, if she shoots them enough they are ready to fuck, too much and they cum and passout, or do what hdoom did and only have some of them ready for love. So you can fuck or ignore at your leisure. That would keep the base gameplay but chance the context so its not one of those dumb 'you have to lose the game for the sex' which is kinda the point of a sex game.

I don't want to sound rude but I've had this argument numerous times before so apologies if it comes off that way. However, specifically directed at that bold bit:

Sex games aren't just about delivering sex gifs onto your screen. Story and mechanics matter and different ones play into different fetishes. Non-consent is a fetish. Sex-on-loss plays into that fetish. As does the whole horror-lite theme and mechanics. If that's not what you're into... well, that's a shame, but calling those games dumb isn't going to endear you to anyone who likes them. I caveat this with the points that I totally support these games having sensible consensual encounters and ways to see sex scenes without having to lose, like gallery modes that unlock enemies after a few kills or w/e.

That said, I don't think your suggestion is bad, but there are games out there like that already; Maybe not 1:1, they are a minority, and my memory of them is hazy because they're not really my thing, but they're definitely out there. The only thing I think is absolutely unique here is the shooting mechanics, but this snappy-but-still-hobbled style is pretty unique anyway and IMHO doesn't necessarily fit a more power-fantasy focused game.

 

[blitblop]

I don't want to sound rude but I've had this argument numerous times before so apologies if it comes off that way. However, specifically directed at that bold bit:

Sex games aren't just about delivering sex gifs onto your screen. Story and mechanics matter and different ones play into different fetishes. Non-consent is a fetish. Sex-on-loss plays into that fetish. As does the whole horror-lite theme and mechanics. If that's not what you're into... well, that's a shame, but calling those games dumb isn't going to endear you to anyone who likes them. I caveat this with the points that I totally support these games having sensible consensual encounters and ways to see sex scenes without having to lose, like gallery modes that unlock enemies after a few kills or w/e.

That said, I don't think your suggestion is bad, but there are games out there like that already; Maybe not 1:1, they are a minority, and my memory of them is hazy because they're not really my thing, but they're definitely out there. The only thing I think is absolutely unique here is the shooting mechanics, but this snappy-but-still-hobbled style is pretty unique anyway and IMHO doesn't necessarily fit a more power-fantasy focused game.

You might have a point if noncon wasn't like the most common fetish that was catered too in sex games. Almost half the games on here have the rape tag, to those of us not into it, it can be a pretty big boner killer.

The problem isn't so much that some action porn games have the 'you get rewarded for being bad at them' its that almost all of them have it, I mean there is an asteroids game where alien ships suddenly want some and will just charge you to rape your pilot. If that is your fetish then you are already well served. So why do they all have to have that? Offhand I can only think of one game that does it but doesn't feel rapey and that is Oh So Hero! A homosexual furry game where enemies will fuck you, but you can fuck them too. Granted I haven't played many of these since the rape tag puts me off, so the game has to either have really good art or something else going for it that I would put up with that.

 

[Beggarman]

You might have a point if noncon wasn't like the most common fetish that was catered too in sex games. Almost half the games on here have the rape tag, to those of us not into it, it can be a pretty big boner killer.

The problem isn't so much that some action porn games have the 'you get rewarded for being bad at them' its that almost all of them have it, I mean there is an asteroids game where alien ships suddenly want some and will just charge you to rape your pilot. If that is your fetish then you are already well served. So why do they all have to have that? Offhand I can only think of one game that does it but doesn't feel rapey and that is Oh So Hero! A homosexual furry game where enemies will fuck you, but you can fuck them too. Granted I haven't played many of these since the rape tag puts me off, so the game has to either have really good art or something else going for it that I would put up with that.

The fact that you don't like a point doesn't invalidate it lmao. If a creator wants to cater to a fetish they'll do that, and that explains why they follow certain gameplay patterns. If you want to know why they cater to the fetish, the two really easy answers are that "they may like that fetish themselves" and "it makes for easy gameplay". Potentially a third "they think there's more money in it" which may not be a fact (I mean just look at the most popular games on the forum - this isn't where the money is) but may be why some creators choose this niche.

As for it being the most catered to fetish - that's a maybe, depending on how you measure it. It's nowhere near half (look at the latest games list if you don't believe me) but rape does seem to be the most populous tag, of the tags that I'd actually consider fetishes (i.e. not content descriptors like Big Tits, which dwarfs it, or Oral Sex, which blows it away, but w/e). That said, the tag doesn't differentiate between whether it's a power fantasy or sub one. The gender split on the tag is close enough to 50:50 and we can basically shorthand gender to aggressor/victim because society or some shit. This is true for a bunch of other tags too, but once broken down this much, nothing really dominates, just a few fetishes come out ahead.

I'm also going to be blunt - forcing an enemy to become aroused so you can fuck them? Kinda rapey.

 

[darkmatter0987]

i can tell this is gonna end up being a good ass game.

 

[moohoo]

i can tell this is gonna end up being a good ass game.

If it survives anyways. H games have a bad problem about that.

 

[blitblop]

The fact that you don't like a point doesn't invalidate it lmao. If a creator wants to cater to a fetish they'll do that, and that explains why they follow certain gameplay patterns. If you want to know why they cater to the fetish, the two really easy answers are that "they may like that fetish themselves" and "it makes for easy gameplay". Potentially a third "they think there's more money in it" which may not be a fact (I mean just look at the most popular games on the forum - this isn't where the money is) but may be why some creators choose this niche.

As for it being the most catered to fetish - that's a maybe, depending on how you measure it. It's nowhere near half (look at the latest games list if you don't believe me) but rape does seem to be the most populous tag, of the tags that I'd actually consider fetishes (i.e. not content descriptors like Big Tits, which dwarfs it, or Oral Sex, which blows it away, but w/e). That said, the tag doesn't differentiate between whether it's a power fantasy or sub one. The gender split on the tag is close enough to 50:50 and we can basically shorthand gender to aggressor/victim because society or some shit. This is true for a bunch of other tags too, but once broken down this much, nothing really dominates, just a few fetishes come out ahead.

I'm also going to be blunt - forcing an enemy to become aroused so you can fuck them? Kinda rapey.

I never said that it invalidated or that the creator can't cater to it. I have no idea what invalidating a fetish even means. I would assume its part of the creators fetish group, although considering how many 'rapey' games are out there you would think they would be chaffing by this point. I'm going to assume laziness since it does fit easily into 'death' for an action game.

I would say its pretty easy to guess if its a power fantasy or a sub one since if the game says female protag then they will almost certainly be on the receiving end, male is more complicated, if gay then probably receiving, but straight, could go either way... actually still probably more likely to be receiving, not many games actually make the main character a rapist.

Oh yeah its totally kinda rapey, but its less rapey then it being straight up forced. But yeah, still problematic.

 

[gdrocker]

Seemingly an (un)holy mix of Anthophobia and Space Escape.

I dig.

I liked Anthophobia, despite not being big into survival horror games; and I hadn't heard of Space Escape before now, but it looks interesting enough. If this turns out being similar to either of those, I think I might have a couple of new games to try tonight, this one included.

 

[Eepy Poss]

I liked Anthophobia, despite not being big into survival horror games; and I hadn't heard of Space Escape before now, but it looks interesting enough. If this turns out being similar to either of those, I think I might have a couple of new games to try tonight, this one included.

I wouldn't bother with space escape. How a developer takes 10 years and goes nowhere is baffling. The concept is there but progress certainly wasn't. It's pretty bad and didn't really shape up into anything considering the dude behind it just kept dancing in circles for years and not getting anything done. Not to mention they're already starting on rebooting that game from the beginning so it really isn't worth bothering with until they have something worth presenting.

 

[Ironfoot]

This game is similar to that what Crump Games (

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) developing. The only problem his project name is not spreaded that far. But that and this game need to be done.

 

[smithsmithsmith]

I wouldn't bother with space escape. How a developer takes 10 years and goes nowhere is baffling. The concept is there but progress certainly wasn't. It's pretty bad and didn't really shape up into anything considering the dude behind it just kept dancing in circles for years and not getting anything done. Not to mention they're already starting on rebooting that game from the beginning so it really isn't worth bothering with until they have something worth presenting.

Iirc space escape suffered from being a personal project and the choice to make it in flash. The last five years has been him wrestling with flash and flip flopping over canning the whole thing completely to remake it in godot, the latter of which he is now doing. It's also hard to be really upset about it, since he never charged for it, but I agree it was a shame that such a promising start tapered out. None the less I'm looking forward to the reboot.

 

[GM_Bertus]

Why is it that almost whenever you play a women in these games its always about being good at the game or being raped? It can't be "oh, these tentacles are hot, I want to fuck them."

Because its a survival game, not a Date Sim

 

[CrunchyG]

Looks good! I like the smoothness (smoothy ness?) of the animation. Looking forward to more updates

 

[blitblop]

Because its a survival game, not a Date Sim

No, its a platformer/shooter.

 

[TJ412]

No, its a platformer/shooter.

...with survival-horror themes and mechanics, if you want to get really pedantic about it.

give her an arousal pistol, if she shoots them enough they are ready to fuck, too much and they cum and passout

Isn't that also basically (reverse-)rape?

If that is your fetish then you are already well served.

I don't get complaining about an adult game for not catering to your particular fetishes when it clearly makes no such promise or attempt. In principle it's the same as complaining that Alien isn't a heart-warming kid-friendly adventure, or that Spongebob isn't a serious examination of the CIA's role in the proliferation of crack-cocaine in the United States.
Plenty of sci-fi horror/slasher films came before Alien, plenty of cartoons existed before Spongebob, but by your logic they'd be better off having never done so... because it wasn't someone's cup of tea.
You are not the target audience for this game. You'll be happier if you accept that, and move on in the eternal search for things that do appeal to you.

The dichotomy of "Lose to see the adult content, play well and you'll most likely miss out on it" is kinda backwards if you look at it through the lens of traditional videogames, sure. But as others have touched on, the gameplay surrounding said content determines its context, which can be important in fap-material. Losing is "winning" in games like this, particularly when it happens organically, because it lines up with the narrative that consent isn't involved on part of the player-character - and for degenerates like me, that makes the ensuing scenes all the more enjoyable.

The only real alternative I can think of that maintians non-consensual, enemy vs protagonist scenes, is implementing them as rewards for clearing levels - but that risks detaching the content from the in-gameplay context, at which point it might as well be a VN instead. Because by golly I've had more frustrating and/or tedious experiences playing games that have it as a reward.

Also sci-fi/horror-themed adult games aren't anywhere near as common as you make out. I've played a fucklot of H-games, but could only name 4 complete ones fitting that description from the top of my head (Anthophobia, Parasite in City, Xenotake just about, Angimanation). The more, the merrier.

 

[blitblop]

Isn't that also basically (reverse-)rape?


I don't get complaining about an adult game for not catering to your particular fetishes when it clearly makes no such promise or attempt. In principle it's the same as complaining that Alien isn't a heart-warming kid-friendly adventure, or that Spongebob isn't a serious examination of the CIA's role in the proliferation of crack-cocaine in the United States.
Plenty of sci-fi horror/slasher films came before Alien, plenty of cartoons existed before Spongebob, but by your logic they'd be better off having never done so... because it wasn't someone's cup of tea.
You are not the target audience for this game. You'll be happier if you accept that, and move on in the eternal search for things that do appeal to you.

The dichotomy of "Lose to see the adult content, play well and you'll most likely miss out on it" is kinda backwards if you look at it through the lens of traditional videogames, sure. But as others have touched on, the gameplay surrounding said content determines its context, which can be important in fap-material. Losing is "winning" in games like this, particularly when it happens organically, because it lines up with the narrative that consent isn't involved on part of the player-character - and for degenerates like me, that makes the ensuing scenes all the more enjoyable.

The only real alternative I can think of that maintians non-consensual, enemy vs protagonist scenes, is implementing them as rewards for clearing levels - but that risks detaching the content from the in-gameplay context, at which point it might as well be a VN instead. Because by golly I've had more frustrating and/or tedious experiences playing games that have it as a reward.

Also sci-fi/horror-themed adult games aren't anywhere near as common as you make out. I've played a fucklot of H-games, but could only name 4 complete ones fitting that description from the top of my head (Anthophobia, Parasite in City, Xenotake just about, Angimanation). The more, the merrier.

As I said before, yeah it is still kinda rapey. But its also less rapey then what is already going on, and would require minimal changes to make it a thing; should the creator desire.

No, its really not and that isn't even the point I brought up. My point was to ask " Why is it that almost whenever you play a women in these games its always about being good at the game or being raped? It can't be "oh, these tentacles are hot, I want to fuck them." " That is hardly demanding content to be catered.

You will have to explain that "losing is winning" thing to me because I don't get it outside of getting a sex scene. Then again, as stated before rape isn't my thing, I'm not even a fan of drastically different power dynamics. It's the sort of thing I put up with since otherwise there are so very few porn games out there I could have fun with.

I actually wasn't so much talking sci-fi/horror, more of action games. H-games that tend to take things from action platformers. I have a huge weakness for pixel art and a lot of the good pixel art games are of the action-platform variety but so so many of them seem to all fall into the "losing is winning" kinda thing, that I had to ask why that seems to be the case. Cause to me, it seems like they are just plugging in sex scenes to a regular type of game in the easiest way. Especially when there is a female protag.

 

[Whiskerz22]

The mac version bugs out and kicks the player after shooting 2-3 times, or the first enemy is killed.

 

[Aazkaal]

As addition to the above report:

Previous version was not exactly stable either, but crushes were random; here, it happens every single time at exactly the same trigger (killing monster via pistol). Using struggle mechanic seems to work (at least it didn't close the game when I first tried), but the moment you kill it via pistol, game would crush, every single time.

 

[AlexTorch]

That creature is a portal turret with a dick?

 

[Squirtward94]

I wish that she had two states, one of being raped and one of accepting/loving it. Maybe an addition of some sort of arousal meter from being fucked as a downside for being grabbed/raped without having the "Impreg" tick (The white circles that fill).

 

[MoxieTouch]

Mm mm very interesting

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As addition to the above report:

Previous version was not exactly stable either, but crushes were random; here, it happens every single time at exactly the same trigger (killing monster via pistol). Using struggle mechanic seems to work (at least it didn't close the game when I first tried), but the moment you kill it via pistol, game would crush, every single time.

Caused by Mac segfaulting. It shouldn't crash now, at least that's what testers say.