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Honestly, so relatable lol
the burnout is still affecting me tbh. i keep randomly losing access to my skills. even struggle to think at all these days.
ive been avoiding level design because i get choice paralysis because anything is fine
I've grown to hate drawing which is why i havent been able to make the slay the spire like creampie colluseum because it needs multiple characters (live2d) event art, card arts, and backgrounds to even make a demo

currently making a jsk style match 3 game but im also being torn in every direction by random ideas.
 
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the burnout is still affecting me tbh. i keep randomly losing access to my skills. even struggle to think at all these days.
ive been avoiding level design because i get choice paralysis because anything is fine
I've grown to hate drawing which is why i havent been able to make the slay the spire like creampie colluseum because it needs multiple characters (live2d) event art, card arts, and backgrounds to even make a demo

currently making a jsk style match 3 game but im also being torn in every direction by random ideas.
Maybe you should take a long term rest and just share ideas would someone or team who is willing to wait next to you. Don't try to burn yourself by forcing to make games. Talk with anyone and take notes about them, pile them up, and rewrite it when you have time. It could take years, or maybe even never.
But a single moment comes out when you get eager to do the job. That is when you start. Don't finish it, just do the job until you can.
I take this kind of position when i have a burnout when writing novels. It helps. And it makes me recover quickly because i get fun while re reading the story, or looking back on the project.

ps. By what i have felt while talking with you so far, you seem to do all the job by your own. i recommend you to find a team. Not hiring, but working together. You might have a serious burn out if you have to do the hard job after your fun job. Which could be a fun job to others.
 
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Maybe you should take a long term rest and just share ideas would someone or team who is willing to wait next to you. Don't try to burn yourself by forcing to make games. Talk with anyone and take notes about them, pile them up, and rewrite it when you have time. It could take years, or maybe even never.
But a single moment comes out when you get eager to do the job. That is when you start. Don't finish it, just do the job until you can.
I take this kind of position when i have a burnout when writing novels. It helps. And it makes me recover quickly because i get fun while re reading the story, or looking back on the project.

ps. By what i have felt while talking with you so far, you seem to do all the job by your own. i recommend you to find a team. Not hiring, but working together. You might have a serious burn out if you have to do the hard job after your fun job. Which could be a fun job to others.
i've been burning through my small inheritance just to stay afloat, i had £6000 meant to be used on a house downpayment
but i have less than £1500 left

making games is my only income

i also cant handle the responsibility of working with others, i've tried but crashed hard and letting them down really hurt
 
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i've been burning through my small inheritance just to stay afloat, i had £6000 meant to be used on a house downpayment
but i have less than £1500 left

making games is my only income

i also cant handle the responsibility of working with others, i've tried but crashed hard and letting them down really hurt
geez... Things really are complicated.
Well, when you wanst to make a lewd yugioh game like this, i would be willing to share my ideas of some cards and characters!
 

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geez... Things really are complicated.
Well, when you wanst to make a lewd yugioh game like this, i would be willing to share my ideas of some cards and characters!
i really wanted to make lewd slay the spire, but it takes so much art that i never had the guts to start

lewd yugioh would be nice to do again its just with the multiple lewd win conditions its hard to make all the live2d for it
 
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i really wanted to make lewd slay the spire, but it takes so much art that i never had the guts to start

lewd yugioh would be nice to do again its just with the multiple lewd win conditions its hard to make all the live2d for it
"Using ai first and then changing it with your art style when you have the time" still not your taste?
 
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the second i use ai for anything is the second everyone decides its okay to never pay for my work
Well... You can give them a message at the beginning of the game to choose either play with AI(which has more contents for now) or play with your art style(which has less contents, but will be added in the future).
If you just say you are in a slump but do want to make games so I made this choice for players to choose, I bet lots of them will understand.

And plus, I bet making a half ai mixed one and only lewd yugioh style game here will drag tremendously more fans to you.
 

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What about at the coding part?
Maybe Ai could make what you wanted to make as card effects?
nah i can code that myself as long as we dont need any resolution stack
i actually enjoy coding for the most part because its like solving puzzles all day
but i stuggle with figuring out what i want to make
 

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nah i can code that myself as long as we dont need any resolution stack
i actually enjoy coding for the most part because its like solving puzzles all day
but i stuggle with figuring out what i want to make
im curious but.. are you diagnosed? as some of the ways youre talking about just sounds like an autistic or audhd burnout
 

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im curious but.. are you diagnosed? as some of the ways youre talking about just sounds like an autistic or audhd burnout
i think it's burnout in general but i'm definitely on the spectrum, im awaiting testing on it but it can take 2 years to get seen
sometimes it feels like i pavlov'd myself into becoming useless

ever since i realised i was dreading going to university and didnt get off the bus at my stop i've slowly gotten worse at making myself do things im supposed to

now i cant even make myself boil pasta and put a curry in the microwave despite curry on pasta being my favourite meal

people say i need a break but i literally cant afford to, and also i dont think i manage to get work done often enough to be considered working in the first place.

managed to get so much done on sylphy 3 before i hit a wall and realised i'd never finish it due to my lack of certain skills
seems i can only manage small projects well, but if i try to do an rpg with the same amount of art as my usual escape room rpgmaker projects i crash and burn

i was stuck writing a bj scene for my lewd ninja rpg for almost 2 months and wrote it instantly when a friend threatened to write it for me (but it was painful because i was writing without inspiration)

and now im stuck on a sequence of lewd scenes to finish the demo, no matter how i phase the question of what the scenes should be my brain gives no responses

i keep wishing i could work on my cowgirl idle game because the only thinking that requires is the graphics layout stuff
1748604770893.png pictured: cowgirl idle with milk themed minigame since most things will be done on a desktop screen
like obviously i should put the stats like milk in boob and milk currency at the bottom below the screen

no idea how im supposed to make steam screenshots for this since you need 5 sfw ones and shes topless as soon as the intro ends (if i make one)
 

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i think it's burnout in general but i'm definitely on the spectrum, im awaiting testing on it but it can take 2 years to get seen
sometimes it feels like i pavlov'd myself into becoming useless

ever since i realised i was dreading going to university and didnt get off the bus at my stop i've slowly gotten worse at making myself do things im supposed to

now i cant even make myself boil pasta and put a curry in the microwave despite curry on pasta being my favourite meal

people say i need a break but i literally cant afford to, and also i dont think i manage to get work done often enough to be considered working in the first place.

managed to get so much done on sylphy 3 before i hit a wall and realised i'd never finish it due to my lack of certain skills
seems i can only manage small projects well, but if i try to do an rpg with the same amount of art as my usual escape room rpgmaker projects i crash and burn

i was stuck writing a bj scene for my lewd ninja rpg for almost 2 months and wrote it instantly when a friend threatened to write it for me (but it was painful because i was writing without inspiration)

and now im stuck on a sequence of lewd scenes to finish the demo, no matter how i phase the question of what the scenes should be my brain gives no responses

i keep wishing i could work on my cowgirl idle game because the only thinking that requires is the graphics layout stuff
View attachment 4890403 pictured: cowgirl idle with milk themed minigame since most things will be done on a desktop screen
like obviously i should put the stats like milk in boob and milk currency at the bottom below the screen

no idea how im supposed to make steam screenshots for this since you need 5 sfw ones and shes topless as soon as the intro ends (if i make one)
Im on the spectrum myself as an AUDHD and for me life is literally just hell waking up, stuck with headaches the moment i get up, easily reach my limit and shutdown as i can no longer do anything and honestly itis absolute fucking hell to even live in the first place, but there were several things that helped and one of the most important ones was to... funnily enough stop caring, which happened after i literally reached the point of suicidality and decided to actually do it if nothing works out for me.

One thing i realized is if youre guilt tripping or gaslighting yourself into thinking that youre not doing enough because youve not done anything then feel burnt out then have energy for something else and want to do something is to realize that resting IS working too, youre letting your brain rest up, gather energy and then use it later. Now whatever you spend your time o nto rest doesnt matter be it drawing doodles or watching some series, anime, games, doesnt matter just anything that can atleast for a while take it off your head as it will constantly fuck with you thinking youre useless when isntead youre LITERALLY trying to work on a system that is not DESIGNED for you in any way shape or form

As well as quiet environments,little light and shitload of sleep and no people can do wonders, if youre feeling unsafe in your environemnt especially in my case i do all thje time so im always on the edge which gets tiring quickly so i burn down and shut down living like a numb corpse it is only when im alone free to yell my lungs out that i feel alive and willing to atleast do something.

Also that story of yours about not stopping at that bus stop due to dreading to go to university that is a normal symptom of being too tired to do anything and a protection mechanism to make you conserve energy and not take any more damage, not something to be ashamed of, i dropped out myself even when iknew everything cuz all i got in the end was, i dont care u know everything u werent here at x day at x time youre not going to finals, so no point caring.

Rather than any inspiration or skillset youre lacking the basic love towards yourself the basic care due to living in a broken system not meant for us, we can learn alot of shit VERY quickly hell i learnt 2languages in a goddamn year out of PURE BOREDOM, imagine channeling that into something you REALLY want to do.

All of that aside though from what you told it seems youre going to be AUDHD too as there the interests can rapidly shift and in some cases projects get abandoned for a while as you do other things then get bored of them until eventually you get back to what you were doing before.

and yes go on continue working on that idle cow game, you can work and at the same time rest your mind from it all then return to it, 5safe ones? just fucking implement a shop to buy various dresses and positions, backgrounds and whatnot and voila more than 5 sfw pieces no probs whatsoever, implement whatever you think would be fun like idfk a minigame where you get attacked by some monster every once in a while and if you dont give it enough milk its gonna rape the cow girl or something just whatever you wish
 

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watching some series, anime, games,


Also that story of yours about not stopping at that bus stop due to dreading to go to university that is a normal symptom of being too tired to do anything

and yes go on continue working on that idle cow game, you can work and at the same time rest your mind from it all then return to it, 5safe ones? just fucking implement a shop to buy various dresses and positions, backgrounds and whatnot and voila more than 5 sfw pieces no probs whatsoever, implement whatever you think would be fun like idfk a minigame where you get attacked by some monster every once in a while and if you dont give it enough milk its gonna rape the cow girl or something just whatever you wish
i do read and watch a lot, but gaming and things that take effort trigger a guilt response, warframe ignored that for a while but i both ran out of stuff that felt worth grinding for and also felt it was offering too much fake productivity so i put it down

i assume the university thing was the start of skill regression, but after i didnt go once, it got harder to go at all and i only managed to go a few more times before skipping the rest of the year except for exams (out of fear theyd make me pay the student loans back

the basic loop for the cowgirl game is wait for your boobs to fill up, milk the milk out, and exchange that for upgrades, cosmetics and minigames to play while waiting for boobs to recharge
the main thing stopping me working on that is not having a good idea for the aesthetics, but my tapper minigame did act as a proper test for running things from the desktop


video example here

im not very worried like i am with the rpg though because i only have to come up with the upgrades but i just cant devote myself to it until the demoo of the rpg is done so people can get hyped for it. right now i have nothing to show people so the idea that im not working on what i should be is much stronger
 
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i do read and watch a lot, but gaming and things that take effort trigger a guilt response, warframe ignored that for a while but i both ran out of stuff that felt worth grinding for and also felt it was offering too much fake productivity so i put it down

i assume the university thing was the start of skill regression, but after i didnt go once, it got harder to go at all and i only managed to go a few more times before skipping the rest of the year except for exams (out of fear theyd make me pay the student loans back

the basic loop for the cowgirl game is wait for your boobs to fill up, milk the milk out, and exchange that for upgrades, cosmetics and minigames to play while waiting for boobs to recharge
the main thing stopping me working on that is not having a good idea for the aesthetics, but my tapper minigame did act as a proper test for running things from the desktop


video example here

im not very worried like i am with the rpg though because i only have to come up with the upgrades but i just cant devote myself to it until the demoo of the rpg is done so people can get hyped for it. right now i have nothing to show people so the idea that im not working on what i should be is much stronger
Yeah that guilt response needs to go one way or another or you will not be able to continue anymore.
Rest is important for your work too as it allows you to relax and take in fresh ideas and focus on whats actually important, so somehow convince your brain that rest is part of that too it is more important than the actual work itself otherwise if youre not feeling good and ready for it, no actual work will be done.

The university thing doesnt matter that is just a side effect showcased from a depression and a burnout that makes you not want to do anything and decompress, heal a bit and get better, i had the same but for me it was the realization that i hate being around people, noise, vibrations, etc. so i dont and i feel way better overall

cant really help with the aesthetics as ive no clue what youre really trying to go for and id need to be have an acc for bsky, but there could be simple ups like in all the other ones , bigger storage, quicker replenishment, quicker milking, could change the art pose too, maybe some small sex animations or scenes, with some upgrades that help out in minigames and thats it
 
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