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I'd just really like to play for once a game where bondage is the actual focus of the game instead of being some arbitrary predicament in some of the bad endings. If all I wanted was seeing sexy "...and she ended up tied up..." pics, there are FAR faster and more satisfying ways to do that. Meanwhile, the actual gameplay I'm looking for is NOT "find the exit" - it's "tie her up".
Yes I do understand this is not that game - the problem is there hardly seems to exist ANY such games (I only ever found one(-ish)). And that's frustrating as hell which I assume is the source of quite a few other dissatisfied comments as well - maybe this is not where we belong but there just isn't anywhere else for us to go either, and this is still the closest thing we found. For actual BDSM fans this is barely a tease, and that's a damn shame...
Yes I do understand this is not that game - the problem is there hardly seems to exist ANY such games (I only ever found one(-ish)). And that's frustrating as hell which I assume is the source of quite a few other dissatisfied comments as well - maybe this is not where we belong but there just isn't anywhere else for us to go either, and this is still the closest thing we found. For actual BDSM fans this is barely a tease, and that's a damn shame...
First up, thank you for you interest, and the time wasted reading my incoherent ramblings below. Anyway...
...that's a really hard question; made even harder by the mentioned lack of "reference" games I could point at and say "look, like that one!". It just seems that almost all games consider a bondage CG either a "bad end" or a reward scene for the player, rather than an actual game mechanic related thing. To be honest, if I had a crystal clear idea of what the specific mechanic should be like I might actually be trying to make a game based on it by now regardless of how ludicrously unfeasible that sounds to me. The closest thing I found so far was "Bonds", although still not nearly as complex/deep/long as I would have preferred. And possibly even "Off the Cuff", although that one's a weird one for sure.
Naturally, a game where I get to manually do the actual tying-up/rigging would be an obviously attractive option - but I'm not stupid enough to fail to recognize what kind of monumental effort it would be to implement arbitrary rope mechanics over a character model into a 3D game engine (which this would most likely have to be, unless someone gets amazingly creative with what can be done in 2D). Especially if done properly, where ropes actually affect and squeeze the model - I swear i'll SCREAM if I see one more 3D render where a bra circuit or a length of rope is just floating around the body...
So yeah, that's a moonshot of sorts - would be awesome but I'm not holding my breath. More realistically, I'd be quite comfortable with what can be done within the confines of a traditional VN - simply a number of choices that influence how a specific bondage session is playing out. Whether I'm the one controlling the action or the one getting tied up, I'd like to be involved in how the scene unfolds, step by step, in a way that far transcends some hypothetical "well you have two choices during the CG which get you four slight variations of much the same". Yes, that would still mean a daunting sized spiderweb of choices/actions/consequences/variations - I'd have to be an experienced VN author to judge what would be realistically possible here, and I am most certainly nothing of the sorts.
Nonetheless, I'd really enjoy getting to choose/influence the specific pose, the degree of its severity/complexity, getting to play with a variety of toys from the painfully mundane all the way to the really exotic stuff conoisseurs wave around - I'm not saying the game should include obsure stuff one can only see in a dark Berlin basement but if a reasonably well supplied fetish sex shop has a category for it and sells it then yes I'd like it featured in the game; if a fetish porn site has pics of it then I'd like it to be in the game. And yes that definitely means far more than a couple of generic nipple clamps and some fluffy handcuffs here or there.
In the end though, this is NOT about any specific game mechanic or fetish. Yes, I'd loathe seeing completely unrelated ones forced in just to pad play time (no "match three" to reveal sexy pic, please!!!), but at the end of the day this is about being involved in a fetish/bondage-centric relationship with one or several partners, with copious amounts of agency concerning a) the flow of each scene in particular and b) the evolution of the relationship in general*. What specific game mechanic enables that is less important; what IS important is that be it mere VN text choices or something much more dynamic, it needs to feel intrinsically related to the bondage/fetish theme and the evolution of the MC/LI relationship, rather than being an "evade zombies" platformer with a kinky flavor. Heck, I sure wouldn't mind an engaging story unfolding in the background either - but at the end of the day, EVERYTHING else would have to take a back seat compared to the bondage/fetish focus and NOT the other way around.
Anywhoo, thanks for reading all this ooof and take care...
* oh, and please lose the "crazy bitch" stereotype. Please! I mean I'm not opposed to some of those being in the game if you wish, but PLEASE include some kind/loving relationships as well; it's insane that everyone seems to think submissive players all want to be humiliated within the last inch of their worthless little lives, as opposed to JUST BE IN AN AFFECTIONATE RELATIONSHIP with a domme. Fucking ridiculous!
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is one of my favorite counter-examples - I'd love to play "Sunstone, the game" if there was a bit (lot) more of the actual "action" in it...
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Thank you!
Late to the party, but glad to see something that isn't "oh fuck no DID bondage stuff for psycho lesbians, quick, everyone, take cover and let's go back to our dick hunting grounds, those bitches are crazy, CRAZY I SAY".
I'd recommend their art sets way more than their games, but have you tried Jacketfreak's (TonkatsuCHAN's) games? They're pretty much 200% bondage and latex, though at this point it's not just focus, it's total annihilation.
The games can be a damn slog to play (and riddled with bugs and bloat, at least for 3072AD) but the art sets are very nice. Still, you might want to give stuff like 3072AD or THE FALL a test run to see if the fetish focus in there balances it out for you. I very much liked Bonds as well (especially the way it was narrated) but as you said, it was too short.
That is not a heat gun. It is a screwdriver without the sharp part being used for its vibration. It's basically a vibrator with a trigger at that point.
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lol
I liked Mio quite a bit , some of the scenes weren't my cup of tea but that's to be expected and ending felt a bit unsatisfying , we didn't learn anything about the guys that kidnapped us. Still overall I liked it , I won't mind seeing more of Mio ''wink wink''
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My sides. Thing is, if people don't know what DID stands for (which is likely if they aren't into SM) they may be scratching their heads for a long time. Even worse if their actual job involves or involved anything that had to do with nervous DSM lookups as an attempt to diagnose something in that mysterious pile of flesh sitting right in front of them.
They're the big bad mafia (Michelle being repeatedly given the Old Sparky treatment even after she pisses herself may very well be the most violent scene; someone's angry at the villainess for fucking up). I'm actually glad Yumekakiya didn't insert some random massive gangbang, this would have ruined the entire game for many of us. Would definitely have been even more enjoyable if the head of the organization had been a batshit crazy female with a horde of equally crazy female goons, but hey, can't have everything!
We still get really nice (and sometimes even unexpected) gems as endings though. Huge lack of wholesome cuddling between Mio and Satoko - unfortunately, I almost always forget it is bad etiquette for a policewoman to cuddle while on duty (especially with a high school girl).
"The police officer who came to rescue you was kidnapped by the very same assassin. Are you a bad enough lesbian to rescue the police officer?"
Michelle also is a certified masochist (and a big one at that) on top of being a sadist.
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That's what I think too but really Michelle is such a idiot , if they are kidnapping her for money why the hell is Michelle so into killing Mio lol , she deserved the spark ending.
This too I didn't like the ending where she takes her on as servant , where's my wholsome ending tsk.
TBF career criminals aren't necessarily quite sane and stable people. If anything a great many both enter that life and come to a bad end due to shitty urge control.
Bondage certainly is the most autistic fetish around. It has subcategories and distinctions, and people are particular about what they like. That said, softcore bondage art will not appeal to every BDSM fan, and certainly not the kind that an excruciating and meaningless death logically follows.
yeah why would people be into different things than what i'm into???
Been a while since anyone replied to this but I wanted to point out a very specific aspect of this game that really did it for me. Reading the comments the game itself is a bit divisive but, if you're someone that knows this type of game is for you then you need to check it out for the voice acting alone.
One thing I dislike about voice acting in games with bondage and gags is the very short noises and they call it good. This game goes all in on gag talking and I think there's a good chance the VAs were wearing the appropriate gag for the scenes. If you're a fan of voice acting during bondage scenes, gag talking specifically then this is a good one.
One thing I dislike about voice acting in games with bondage and gags is the very short noises and they call it good. This game goes all in on gag talking and I think there's a good chance the VAs were wearing the appropriate gag for the scenes. If you're a fan of voice acting during bondage scenes, gag talking specifically then this is a good one.