Ren'Py Dissonance [v4.1] [Glephy]

[bamachine]

Almost everyone wants it with Justin. Pic related.
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That is what I voted, since I used urm to rename Justin by my name. Still, want to see her get some lesbian action also, then a threesome with "my" character and the two lasses.

From what I read, seems we will get the lesbian, then straight with Justin/me.

I do feel for the MC, as he seems like a good dude, so kinda hoping he gets it on with his co-worker, since I want to see her nekkid anyway.

 

[SaddamHussein]

I don't get it is this netori or netorare ?

 

[JohnSchuler]

Wow, lot of mixed opinions about update it seems

And about the Marissa/Flora relationship: honestly, that’s spot-on with reality. Women often feel way more comfortable and intimate around their female friends than around guys. That’s because, let’s be real, most guy “friends” usually have some hidden interest. That intimacy between girls can naturally open the door to them trying things with each other. I’ve seen it happen more than once among friends.

And of course, personality always comes into play when this happens. But since Marissa’s in a long-distance situation with the MC, it makes the whole thing way more plausible. And honestly, if you think about it, at the early stages she’d be way more reluctant with a random guy than with Flora. If I were the author, I’d even stretch it out a lot longer for Justin to get anywhere at all — unless Flora steps in.

Naah, you lost me here buddy. You guys defending this Flora thing... that's just not it. This is just boring and unnecessary no matter how you wanna defend this.

If dev from the start would say "Yeah, this will be lesbian NTR", then there would be 0 problems. But there was no such statement, and we are here where we at, with clear indication what majority (well, at lest on the forum, you know . ) find it boring or just weird, since it's implemented poorly.
We start without it, and everything is promising. Vanilla, but promising. Then she (Flora) just appears, and then dev want to turn this in to lesbian NTR suddenly? No wonder ppl are dissatisfied with that and in questions. This is sudden shift what unfortunatelly, no amount of time to "slow burn" will fix. Then Dev (maybe realising that) again changes side saying "Well, actually, I revamping a bit, so she will be just temporarily in there, and main focus will be on Justin". Oh, cool, so he finally decide... oh wait, now it's update, and it's again will be lesbian NTR he says, but now, later it won't? Ok, then... why this stupid back and forth to begin with? It's inconsistent, and it shows.

You can million times say "Actually , She works well to corrupt Marissa and as enabler to NTR", but... she just don't, and there is as much ways to corrupt her with just Justin (and ok, maaaaybe her help too), as there is with her doing it solo

Imo, dev shoul already decide what he wants to do with the story (it's already too late and fix those fuck ups, but not too late in general), instead of trying to jerk off both camps. He is bouncing back and forth of how he wan't to make it lesbian NTR or not. It is already clear what "vanilla NTR" enjoyers find this derection unnapealing at best, as well as lesbian enjoyers trying to push that niche thing cause they see what they can push on dev who willing to listen to them, don't find "return to vanilla" very appealing in return. He can't please both sides as we see

 

[MilkyWay5]

I think a lot of you guys are looking at the game from the wrong angle. The slow burn is actually really well tuned. It doesn’t just focus on the MC’s girlfriend, it also brings in other characters who move at a faster pace toward the sex scenes. Maybe what feels “realistic” about the game isn’t obvious at first, but it comes from how the relationships are built. Take Adrianna, for example — she’s stuck in a worn-out relationship with a history of fights and problems, so it makes sense that she cheats quicker. Marissa, on the other hand, has a long and stable thing with the MC, so of course she takes longer. Genma is lonely and insecure, so falling deeper and deeper into sweet talk also feels believable.

I think what the author is aiming for is keeping every relationship grounded in realism, shaped by each character’s history. That’s the opposite of most games out there, where characters feel like empty shells. Here, they carry past baggage, and that shapes how they act — just like in real life.

And about the Marissa/Flora relationship: honestly, that’s spot-on with reality. Women often feel way more comfortable and intimate around their female friends than around guys. That’s because, let’s be real, most guy “friends” usually have some hidden interest. That intimacy between girls can naturally open the door to them trying things with each other. I’ve seen it happen more than once among friends.

And of course, personality always comes into play when this happens. But since Marissa’s in a long-distance situation with the MC, it makes the whole thing way more plausible. And honestly, if you think about it, at the early stages she’d be way more reluctant with a random guy than with Flora. If I were the author, I’d even stretch it out a lot longer for Justin to get anywhere at all — unless Flora steps in.

I get the feeling this story has a lot of little touches pulled from real-life relationships the author might’ve experienced. I may be wrong, but that’s how it feels.

You know what would be even more realistic? That the gf stays faithful and never does anything at all because in real life most people do not, or they do but it's like once and then they break up, these super long secret affairs that you see in hentai or games is not something that the majority of people do in real life for obvious reasons, social stigma and so on.

The reason that people turn to fictional entertainment is usually to experience something that you can't do in real life (or I guess in this case you can, but it's not a good idea). So in any work of fiction there's always a scale that goes from hyper-realism on one end to total absurdity on the other, and each story is positioned somewhere on that scale, and what me and I think a lot of people in the playerbase are saying is that in this story the balance is off, and should be nudged more towards being entertaining.

I'm not saying that long dialogue scenes are inherently a bad thing and we should just see characters fucking all the time, but for a dialogue scene to be compelling there has to be more substance to it, maybe it happens in an interesting and new context, or it follows a major event that just happened in the story. For example that thing that Adrianna says to Marianne at the very end of this update? That certainly warrants a long dialogue scene.

But then we also have "so this guy that I don't really know just said something slightly rude to me and now I'm going to complain about it to my friend for 1 hour". Is that something that happens in real life? Sure, all the time. Is this something that I want to have described in full detail in a long dialogue scene? Absolutely not. Most dialogue scenes in this update could've been half as long and still accomplished the same purpose, if anything it would've been less boring.

Either way it seems like the slow phase is coming to an end soon and we should see some action in episode 5, but this whole beginning part wasn't handled well imo.

 

[yamamoto0413]

Wow, lot of mixed opinions about update it seems



Naah, you lost me here buddy. You guys defending this Flora thing... that's just not it. This is just boring and unnecessary no matter how you wanna defend this.

If dev from the start would say "Yeah, this will be lesbian NTR", then there would be 0 problems. But there was no such statement, and we are here where we at, with clear indication what majority (well, at lest on the forum, you know . ) find it boring or just weird, since it's implemented poorly.
We start without it, and everything is promising. Vanilla, but promising. Then she (Flora) just appears, and then dev want to turn this in to lesbian NTR suddenly? No wonder ppl are dissatisfied with that and in questions. This is sudden shift what unfortunatelly, no amount of time to "slow burn" will fix. Then Dev (maybe realising that) again changes side saying "Well, actually, I revamping a bit, so she will be just temporarily in there, and main focus will be on Justin". Oh, cool, so he finally decide... oh wait, now it's update, and it's again will be lesbian NTR he says, but now, later it won't? Ok, then... why this stupid back and forth to begin with? It's inconsistent, and it shows.

You can million times say "Actually , She works well to corrupt Marissa and as enabler to NTR", but... she just don't, and there is as much ways to corrupt her with just Justin (and ok, maaaaybe her help too), as there is with her doing it solo

Imo, dev shoul already decide what he wants to do with the story (it's already too late and fix those fuck ups, but not too late in general), instead of trying to jerk off both camps. He is bouncing back and forth of how he wan't to make it lesbian NTR or not. It is already clear what "vanilla NTR" enjoyers find this derection unnapealing at best, as well as lesbian enjoyers trying to push that niche thing cause they see what they can push on dev who willing to listen to them, don't find "return to vanilla" very appealing in return. He can't please both sides as we see

I honestly understand where you're coming from, but I think it's a hard ideological difference that isn't going to go away. This game is so special to me because the characters are so consistent with how they approach decisions, and if Marissa were to be corrupted from the start with Justin, it would feel really disingenuous. I know that AVNs require suspension of disbelief, but I'm of the opinion that the less of that needed the better.

That's the heart of why the Flora situation makes so much sense. She's teaching Marissa to be comfortable in her own skin, enjoy the feeling of being seen as 'hot', and to be selfish and live in the moment. Without this, there can't be a Justin scene without a big discontinuity. This story ends with Justin/Marissa in bed together, maybe with Flora maybe not, but regardless Flora needs to be there to cause that first shift in Marissa's head. Now that that's done, I expect to see Marissa starting to explore more in the next update or two.

 

[Chaoticjustice]

Correct me if I'm wrong but basically so far Marissa's rational essentially for cheating/ considering it at least the moment is pretty much down to the fact that she choose to stay with Jeremy in a happy relationship and now she feels robbed of experiences ( outside of the fact that Jeremy is away and she's lonely but I don't even really recall that being a major driving force)

 

[JeanBibon]

I really liked the update but it really needs a gallery, it's a game we can't really go back to between updates unless you have a huge save with all the scenes

 

[nasahilaindirim]

I very rarely say this because most games on this site have the opposite problem, but this game is actually too slow. I get the idea of slow burn but there still has to be something to keep the player engaged in the mean time, and here it's clearly lacking.

Sitting through like 30 min of dialogue scenes with Flora and still the update ends with no actual sex scene between them, that's just boring and redundant. We already know that this storyline is just a prelude to the gf cheating with a guy next, and I imagine it will take like 10 updates until that part happens which is fine, but at least give us the Flora content to keep things interesting in the mean time. She's a girl so there's a ton of narrative tropes that can be used to make it happen without it being perceived as "real" cheating.

I actually ended up skipping a lot of dialogue in the 4 episodes so far which is a shame because I usually like detailed storytelling but I don't think I'll ever go back to read it, there's just not enough substance to make it a good experience.

Still think the game has potential, I'll be keeping an eye on it.

I just said that ... I played for hours and hours .. I'm at DAY 50.. And still our GF is shy about being alone at public with stranger . (Mostly Justin).. That is not slow burn stuff.. This is no burning..
I hope this game dont process romantic drama path includes adult scenes.. Because if they keep doing that, there's no difference between this game and game of thrones.. (just about romantic developing forbidden relationship with adult scenes).. That is not NTR. That is forbidden romantic way to get somebody (Justin) know more.
Did they know that most people play this kind of games for jerking? It's not we interest about how grapically developing or story is amazing. Yes they need to be good but the main fact is for jerking. Because there's a different motivation between playing Elden Ring and this. This must be a jerking material includes hard stuff. And if you call this is a NTR game, it must include NTR and cheat and little bit tougher than that. Sorry but that's true.

 

[forceline0]

Wow, lot of mixed opinions about update it seems



Naah, you lost me here buddy. You guys defending this Flora thing... that's just not it. This is just boring and unnecessary no matter how you wanna defend this.

If dev from the start would say "Yeah, this will be lesbian NTR", then there would be 0 problems. But there was no such statement, and we are here where we at, with clear indication what majority (well, at lest on the forum, you know . ) find it boring or just weird, since it's implemented poorly.
We start without it, and everything is promising. Vanilla, but promising. Then she (Flora) just appears, and then dev want to turn this in to lesbian NTR suddenly? No wonder ppl are dissatisfied with that and in questions. This is sudden shift what unfortunatelly, no amount of time to "slow burn" will fix. Then Dev (maybe realising that) again changes side saying "Well, actually, I revamping a bit, so she will be just temporarily in there, and main focus will be on Justin". Oh, cool, so he finally decide... oh wait, now it's update, and it's again will be lesbian NTR he says, but now, later it won't? Ok, then... why this stupid back and forth to begin with? It's inconsistent, and it shows.

You can million times say "Actually , She works well to corrupt Marissa and as enabler to NTR", but... she just don't, and there is as much ways to corrupt her with just Justin (and ok, maaaaybe her help too), as there is with her doing it solo

Imo, dev shoul already decide what he wants to do with the story (it's already too late and fix those fuck ups, but not too late in general), instead of trying to jerk off both camps. He is bouncing back and forth of how he wan't to make it lesbian NTR or not. It is already clear what "vanilla NTR" enjoyers find this derection unnapealing at best, as well as lesbian enjoyers trying to push that niche thing cause they see what they can push on dev who willing to listen to them, don't find "return to vanilla" very appealing in return. He can't please both sides as we see

Don’t get me wrong, man, I know this isn’t a vote pool or a competition. It’s just that a lot of people seem to agree with me, since the only “disagree” emote on my last post was yours. I get that you have a strong opinion about how things should go, but when you say stuff like “most vanilla NTR enjoyers” (didn’t even know that was a thing ) aren’t enjoying it, I don’t think that’s really accurate. I’d like to see Justin get his part too, but that doesn’t mean I’m not interested in Flora’s path as well.

I’ve played a lot of NTR games (and when I say a lot, I mean most of what’s on F95), and pretty much every kind of NTR appeals to me, and some concepts I hadn’t seen done, or at least done well before. A girl pushing someone’s girlfriend to cheat is one of those scenarios—and kind of funny to me, because I actually find it pretty realistic.

At the end of the day, what really matters to me is that the Author keeps following his own vision without getting “corrupted” by too many outside opinions. I’ve seen that happen in other games, and it usually turns them into a generic mess of random moments.

 

[nasahilaindirim]

Most of NTR games are actually secret NTS games nowadays. I hope this game doesnt develop as NTS game instead of NTR.. We want to knife on MC's back. We want cheating. We want MC's GF to hypocrate for her sexual life. She must treat her BF (MC) like their sexual life is good and enough but on the other side, she must turn to be a slut for strangers . (Also she could humiliate her bf while she is at some strangers' arms or laps.. )

 

[Filipis]

Correct me if I'm wrong but basically so far Marissa's rational essentially for cheating/ considering it at least the moment is pretty much down to the fact that she choose to stay with Jeremy in a happy relationship and now she feels robbed of experiences ( outside of the fact that Jeremy is away and she's lonely but I don't even really recall that being a major driving force)

I think it's the classic case of "highschool sweethearts" (Jeremy x Marissa) that basically spend so much time doing stuff together that they start feeling regret over what-if's and the things they didn't experience outside of the scope of their relationship.

Basically, Marissa doesn't blame MC for anything, but is starting to feel like she missed out on having a life of her own - untethered from her boyfriend.

 

[LadyRoth]

Correct me if I'm wrong but basically so far Marissa's rational essentially for cheating/ considering it at least the moment is pretty much down to the fact that she choose to stay with Jeremy in a happy relationship and now she feels robbed of experiences ( outside of the fact that Jeremy is away and she's lonely but I don't even really recall that being a major driving force)

This seems to be the case. It's also the reasoning my ex used on me eventually to explain her actions and choices, so I relate.

 

[Deleted member 9536489]

I think it's the classic case of "highschool sweethearts" (Jeremy x Marissa) that basically spend so much time doing stuff together that they start feeling regret over what-if's and the things they didn't experience outside of the scope of their relationship.

Basically, Marissa doesn't blame MC for anything, but is starting to feel like she missed out on having a life of her own - untethered from her boyfriend.

And I hope she asks Justin for help, not that annoying bitch Flora. Most people here also want her arc with Justin.

 

[JohnSchuler]

Don’t get me wrong, man, I know this isn’t a vote pool or a competition. It’s just that a lot of people seem to agree with me, since the only “disagree” emote on my last post was yours. I get that you have a strong opinion about how things should go, but when you say stuff like “most vanilla NTR enjoyers” (didn’t even know that was a thing ) aren’t enjoying it, I don’t think that’s really accurate. I’d like to see Justin get his part too, but that doesn’t mean I’m not interested in Flora’s path as well.

No fucking way you measure "disagree/agree" metric by upvotes on ONE COMMENT dude XD, you can't be this delusional fr. Especially, if you read your comment yourself, you will see what half of it addresses concerns of ppl dissatisfied with slow pacing. And I do fully agree with that too, and too would "put a like" to... stroke your ego I guess, if you so fixed on them, in need to point it out and validate your point by that.
If we follow this reddit mentality of "Erhm, I got more updudes, there for you are wrong ", I can pull out comments of ppl who dissatisfied with lesbian NTR which is plenty too, of a guy who paid for update and leaked it with a word what he is dropping the game after being "disappointed", I can point out, what some of those likes come from ppl who actively trying to push dev in making this lesbian NTR story with Flora stealing all the girls, and this makes those likes biased and unviable, because they go even against your "Let dev not be corrupted" words (and again, they can agree with your statement about pacing, what was correct), Or maybe I should point out a pull with 19 votes who is not in favor of Flora NTR? (oh wow, 19 votes against 9 likes. What a measure, right? By your own logic your opinion is invalid and unpopular then. Don't you see how fucking stupid this narrative is? )

My only opinion about "how things should go", is what they would go as dev showed as at the beginning, without those swaying in random directions. Don't act like I want dev to revamp the game, if you read last paragraph of my initial message (which you apparently skipped for some reason thas make this assumption), it is clear that is not what I said.
If it's not clear enough, especially after me mentioning what I mean ppl on this forum, I refer as "Vanilla ntr" about ppl who don't want to see sudden turn in to lesbian ntr. (as again, we can see by comments, not by likes on one comment where you make good point, and then push this Flora narrative trying to justify her poor implementation in the plot)

I’ve played a lot of NTR games (and when I say a lot, I mean most of what’s on F95), and pretty much every kind of NTR appeals to me, and some concepts I hadn’t seen done, or at least done well before. A girl pushing someone’s girlfriend to cheat is one of those scenarios—and kind of funny to me, because I actually find it pretty realistic.

Do I even need to tell how unnecessary and just strange that sentence looks? If you sort games by "netorare" right now, there is at least 3 games with this narrative on the first page (4, if we include this one. Maybe more, but I can't vouch for more), and in every one of them it's implemented non less well than here (arguably, implemented better), which just shows what your "I actually played most ntr game in here" is... why it is even here? Show what you like it only when it turns in to pure lesbian NTR? Or to try weirdly flex, and fumbling, cause I too played a lot of them, and can see what you say is just strange?

Yeah, that can be "pretty realistic" and everything, IF she would push her JUST to cheat. Yeah, this would be interesting if she would corrupt Merissa to help Justin and all that. But she is not only pushing her to cheat, she is pushing her to herself, what is - just boring. Even if later she will lend her to Justin. If you ask most ppl who are in to NTR (for clarification again, I mean at least here, on the forum, especially here as we saw before in a discussions of a game what from the start was like that, from ppl who just like "vanilla ntr", where by "vanilla" I meant guy steals LI from MC ), I doubt a lot of them will share enjoyment over lesbian stuff. "Boo hoo, my LI got kissed and groped by the girl, what am I gonna do?" situation is just... not really NTR for most ppl. "Oh, Merissa won't be comfortable doing it with some random Justin"? (altho this is fixed extremely easy in A LOT of ways, and you would agree, if you've played a lot of games, and saw different way of doing so) Ok, but she would be with a girl suddenly? That not how it works if we talk about "realistic" scenarios, I'm sorry. Unless again, we from get go would be notified what she is full bisexual or something

At the end of the day, what really matters to me is that the Author keeps following his own vision without getting “corrupted” by too many outside opinions. I’ve seen that happen in other games, and it usually turns them into a generic mess of random moments.

That is precisely why I want to see dev finally stop jumping back and forth. This is already "random moment", with Flora popping out of nowhere to steal GF at first, then not to steal but to help steal her, then to steal, but for herself, but kinda only for a time. It looks bad now, and will look even worse in a long run, on a full "progression map" in finished game, what will beg question "wtf was that weird thing with Flora for? And why it's so back and forth and undecided?". This inconsistency hardly can be defined as "vision", and making it suddenly lesbian NTR exactly looks like "corrupted by too many outside opinions"

 

[whatever823]

Damn. Look at all these wall of texts filled with justifications.

This is a porn hentai game. Feed me some porn. I'm looking to wank.

This update is fkin boring, that's all. Finito.

You want realism novel reading? Go to a damn bookstore.

 

[Eet_Fuk]

Damn. Look at all these wall of texts filled with justifications.

This is a porn hentai game. Feed me some porn. I'm looking to wank.

This update is fkin boring, that's all. Finito.

You want realism novel reading? Go to a damn bookstore.

Shit take

 

[Filipis]

No fucking way you measure "disagree/agree" metric by upvotes on ONE COMMENT dude XD, you can't be this delusional fr. Especially, if you read your comment yourself, you will see what half of it addresses concerns of ppl dissatisfied with slow pacing. And I do fully agree with that too, and too would "put a like" to... stroke your ego I guess, if you so fixed on them, in need to point it out and validate your point by that.
If we follow this reddit mentality of "Erhm, I got more updudes, there for you are wrong ", I can pull out comments of ppl who dissatisfied with lesbian NTR which is plenty too, of a guy who paid for update and leaked it with a word what he is dropping the game after being "disappointed", I can point out, what some of those likes come from ppl who actively trying to push dev in making this lesbian NTR story with Flora stealing all the girls, and this makes those likes biased and unviable, because they go even against your "Let dev not be corrupted" words (and again, they can agree with your statement about pacing, what was correct), Or maybe I should point out a pull with 19 votes who is not in favor of Flora NTR? (oh wow, 19 votes against 9 likes. What a measure, right? By your own logic your opinion is invalid and unpopular then. Don't you see how fucking stupid this narrative is? )

My only opinion about "how things should go", is what they would go as dev showed as at the beginning, without those swaying in random directions. Don't act like I want dev to revamp the game, if you read last paragraph of my initial message (which you apparently skipped for some reason thas make this assumption), it is clear that is not what I said.
If it's not clear enough, especially after me mentioning what I mean ppl on this forum, I refer as "Vanilla ntr" about ppl who don't want to see sudden turn in to lesbian ntr. (as again, we can see by comments, not by likes on one comment where you make good point, and then push this Flora narrative trying to justify her poor implementation in the plot)


Do I even need to tell how unnecessary and just strange that sentence looks? If you sort games by "netorare" right now, there is at least 3 games with this narrative on the first page (4, if we include this one. Maybe more, but I can't vouch for more), and in every one of them it's implemented non less well than here (arguably, implemented better), which just shows what your "I actually played most ntr game in here" is... why it is even here? Show what you like it only when it turns in to pure lesbian NTR? Or to try weirdly flex, and fumbling, cause I too played a lot of them, and can see what you say is just strange?

Yeah, that can be "pretty realistic" and everything, IF she would push her JUST to cheat. Yeah, this would be interesting if she would corrupt Merissa to help Justin and all that. But she is not only pushing her to cheat, she is pushing her to herself, what is - just boring. Even if later she will lend her to Justin. If you ask most ppl who are in to NTR (for clarification again, I mean at least here, on the forum, especially here as we saw before in a discussions of a game what from the start was like that, from ppl who just like "vanilla ntr", where by "vanilla" I meant guy steals LI from MC ), I doubt a lot of them will share enjoyment over lesbian stuff. "Boo hoo, my LI got kissed and groped by the girl, what am I gonna do?" situation is just... not really NTR for most ppl. "Oh, Merissa won't be comfortable doing it with some random Justin"? (altho this is fixed extremely easy in A LOT of ways, and you would agree, if you've played a lot of games, and saw different way of doing so) Ok, but she would be with a girl suddenly? That not how it works if we talk about "realistic" scenarios, I'm sorry. Unless again, we from get go would be notified what she is full bisexual or something


That is precisely why I want to see dev finally stop jumping back and forth. This is already "random moment", with Flora popping out of nowhere to steal GF at first, then not to steal but to help steal her, then to steal, but for herself, but kinda only for a time. It looks bad now, and will look even worse in a long run, on a full "progression map" in finished game, what will beg question "wtf was that weird thing with Flora for? And why it's so back and forth and undecided?". This inconsistency hardly can be defined as "vision", and making it suddenly lesbian NTR exactly looks like "corrupted by too many outside opinions"

Flora didn't jump out of nowhere, have you been CRTL-skipping a bit too much?

Justin literally made a deal with Flora to corrupt Marissa, and break down her morals about sexuality to the point she won't object to cheating on her boyfriend. And the only reason Flora agreed was because she wanted a piece of Marissa for herself.

Justin let Flora have her way because he knows it will benefit him in the end, when Marissa's morals are degraded enough and she willingly cheats with Justin. But for now, Flora takes center stage because her intention was unassuming enough for Marissa to not doubt what Flora was telling her "as a friend" - which is how she succumbs to the corruption.

If Justin suddenly started going shirtless and undressing around Marissa, she would've shut that shit down with lightspeed, and leave the friend group. Flora's advantage was that she was a woman, that's the whole point.

 

[JohnSchuler]

Damn. Look at all these wall of texts filled with justifications.

This is a porn hentai game. Feed me some porn. I'm looking to wank.

This update is fkin boring, that's all. Finito.

You want realism novel reading? Go to a damn bookstore.

It was not justification.

Don't want to read and just much and want to wank? There is pornhub with the thing called "Porn VIDEOS" in it. No need to read, and you can wank as much as you want. I recommend checking it out, it will be more suitable for your needs

 

[babadunde]

Love this game, very similar to E-Thots.

 

[Deleted member 9536489]

Lesbian NTR is for normies. True NTR like Marissa x Justin is for NTRchads like many of us. This lesbian thing is so forced, and even the developer knows it. The recent update was great only because of Gemma x Trev.