starkj
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Because it's netorare, plenty of people including me dont like it.
The forum posts are actually the funniest stuff I've read in a while
If there's a netorare tag and you don't like netorare then you may want to skip this one. Just saying.. 
Arkade
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playing mystery pov- I don't think there's really been any real NTR yet- yeah the sister is probably getting into things but that's just natural. It's going to happen at one point. Seems the GF though is still mainly loyal- just near a lot of heroines who are probably bad influences.
One thing that would be nice is if the models stayed more consistent. Like GF has very blue eyes in current content on camera- but not like this on her pfp. When seeing characters on the 18+ shitposting site- sometimes you want to try and compare them with the models you know.. and they don't match up so well- hair aside since that's always changing(even mentioned in text).. eye color should be a big tell and all characters worth noting seem to have very different eye colors. In another way- this can actually be good. It's more believable that you can't tell who these characters are with 100% certainty- and maybe all of them but the sister are actually not really related.. The sister beach photos though- and the same swimsuit and things.. it's a big coincidence.
Either way content has been going fine. If the GF has been getting into things and I wasn't sure- then that is just testament to the mystery pov effectiveness. But if it's a mechanical game issue with updated models keeping it more ambiguous- maybe that should be noted going forward and set a characters model up via an image or video call from them so that future scenes give perspective what they're meant to give.
One thing that would be nice is if the models stayed more consistent. Like GF has very blue eyes in current content on camera- but not like this on her pfp. When seeing characters on the 18+ shitposting site- sometimes you want to try and compare them with the models you know.. and they don't match up so well- hair aside since that's always changing(even mentioned in text).. eye color should be a big tell and all characters worth noting seem to have very different eye colors. In another way- this can actually be good. It's more believable that you can't tell who these characters are with 100% certainty- and maybe all of them but the sister are actually not really related.. The sister beach photos though- and the same swimsuit and things.. it's a big coincidence.
Either way content has been going fine. If the GF has been getting into things and I wasn't sure- then that is just testament to the mystery pov effectiveness. But if it's a mechanical game issue with updated models keeping it more ambiguous- maybe that should be noted going forward and set a characters model up via an image or video call from them so that future scenes give perspective what they're meant to give.
the biggest reason because it is a kinetic avn with NTR as it main theme. meaning there is no way to "save" the mc and fmc.
even most people who like non vanilla or darker genres avoid Netorare genre (netorase and netori are different case though), and you can bet people who prefer vanilla will 100% avoid Netorare focused genre.
imo,mainly people either self insert to the mc (who got cheated on by the fmc) or feel sympathetic toward the mc especially we mostly read/see the story from the mc pov. and that make it such a turn off for most people.
i myself can tolerate NTR genre to some extent. but if i cant then i will just brute force to see the sex scene LOL if the model and sex scene are beautiful (especially if there are no ugly bastard).
i bet if the game is not kinetic and have for example love path or harem path, it might become much more popular.
but for a new kinetic NTR game, it already garner 50 paid member in patreon, imo, that is good enough for now.
Filipis
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Add to it the fact that the "corruption" of the MMC's GF is scarily well done (meaning: believable), and you can see why even some NTR-lite fans might consider this too much. IMHO, this might be the first NTR game that I would only recommend to true NTR fans, as otherwise, what will happen down the line (obvious already now) will not sit right with them.
My only gripe is Gemma's story; Trevor is a certified sociopath, and him manipulating Gemma into doing exactly what he wants is eerie. I feel bad for her instead of eagerly waiting to see her "succumb" to him. She's just a poor lost soul, and Trevor is exploiting that.
Kaiden & Adrianna are clearly not meant to be together. Now, I like their story, but that much is clear. Maybe that's the point? Them being actually bad for one another, but adamant on sticking together out of "love" - and I'd say there is no better person here: Kaiden clearly wants a mature & responsible gf, but Adrianna hates having to tip-toe around Kaiden to avoid any derogatory comments.
Glephy , fantastic work again. One thing I would like to ask is:
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m4pII
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In my opinion, the main disadvantages of the game are the lack of choice and the so-called "mystery mode".
First of all, there is no mystery here. If you read the correspondence of guys, then from the first minutes you understand who their goals are and what the role of each girl is.
Secondly, what is the point of "comparing facts" if the main character cannot react in any way? All his answers are niceguy bullshit.
The last straw for me was a conversation with Gemma, where she asks for advice about the "suddenly polite and helpful employee - Trevor". If we read the correspondence of guys, we know who the barista Trevor is, his goals and how he treats girls, but we can't warn her in any way.
Start enjoying the game only after disabling the "mystery mode". The female characters are amazingly written. Great dialogues and scenes.
First of all, there is no mystery here. If you read the correspondence of guys, then from the first minutes you understand who their goals are and what the role of each girl is.
Secondly, what is the point of "comparing facts" if the main character cannot react in any way? All his answers are niceguy bullshit.
The last straw for me was a conversation with Gemma, where she asks for advice about the "suddenly polite and helpful employee - Trevor". If we read the correspondence of guys, we know who the barista Trevor is, his goals and how he treats girls, but we can't warn her in any way.
Start enjoying the game only after disabling the "mystery mode". The female characters are amazingly written. Great dialogues and scenes.
Filipis
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I agree. MC is just too... safe? But maybe that's the point - he's such a Nice Guy that all the girls around him (except Adrianna, his sister) love him so much... until they slowly realize that he's too nice to the point of being boring? And the thing with his new female coworker is just... okay? Clearly, there is nothing going on between them, and it only serves to drive a wedge between Marissa and MC - but even that she forgave him pretty fast. Food for thought...
The fall of the female characters is top-tier. Best of any NTR AVN I've ever had the pleasure of playing.
bamachine
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I just started this and really like it so far. Just got to like day 15. Only issue for me is I can't use URM to rename every guy that is after Jeremy's "girls" by my first name without it being a little confusing, heh. I gave the one after his gf my first name and the other two variations of my middle name. I mean, I guess I could name all three guys after my first name, if they never actually end up meeting each other, heh. Problem comes in when all the girls end up meeting each other, after they start fooling around and discussing their mystery guy.
Edit: A little further in and glad Jeremy might have a fall back option with Bonnie coming into the picture. While I still want to steal his women, with my evil selves(would never do this IRL), he seems like a good dude and deserves someone.
Edit: A little further in and glad Jeremy might have a fall back option with Bonnie coming into the picture. While I still want to steal his women, with my evil selves(would never do this IRL), he seems like a good dude and deserves someone.
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I enjoyed the game, but I don't really think it makes sense for Marissa to eventually cheat. It would make more sense if it was some sort of Netorase angle. I don't think it makes sense for it to be NTR and the message board, if he supposedly reads it should know it was his sister and probably should recognize his gfs tits and all that. It also didn't get much love in the last 20 days and who the heck invited him that has to be an angle later as well I hope.
It's like we are playing it and the MC is just there, he's the most boring part of the story. I can't imagine playing this in mystery mode.
It would be nice if he was more involved and Marissa was more honest. This is why games need choices. NTR and NTRS would be the only two choices needed, one where she's honest and he's a cuck and one where she lies and he remains passive for some reason and it's NTR
While I don't really agree on the way the story is progressing, It's still good the way it is, just because it's not what I want doesn't make it wrong.
You make the game you want this is just my 2 cents after playing it.
TLDR: The MC is boring and too passive. Disagree with Marissa eventually cheating, doesn't make sense that she would. Would make sense to have a NTRS route as wel.
It's like we are playing it and the MC is just there, he's the most boring part of the story. I can't imagine playing this in mystery mode.
It would be nice if he was more involved and Marissa was more honest. This is why games need choices. NTR and NTRS would be the only two choices needed, one where she's honest and he's a cuck and one where she lies and he remains passive for some reason and it's NTR
While I don't really agree on the way the story is progressing, It's still good the way it is, just because it's not what I want doesn't make it wrong.
You make the game you want this is just my 2 cents after playing it.
TLDR: The MC is boring and too passive. Disagree with Marissa eventually cheating, doesn't make sense that she would. Would make sense to have a NTRS route as wel.
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I'm playing it in mystery mode and I have to agree. I usually avoid kinetic novels, especially NTR since, for me, half the fun of NTR is in making the wrong choices and "suffering" for it. And while the girls' corruption is coming along nicely I also feel like the MC is more like a robot than a human being. If we didn't have the forum leaks I probably would have given up already.
bamachine
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Got to like day 38 and while I still like the slow burn and teasing portion(I am playing immersive, since I renamed all the pervs as versions of my name), so I can see what is going on with the hotties. The really odd thing I have noticed is it shows Day 36 Sunday (girl name), then later it will show Day 36 Friday (different girl name). the days are all screwed up since we hit the 30+ days.
Filipis
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The way I see it, Marissa is slowly discovering that she tied her whole "existence" as an adult to being MC's girlfriend, like a title. She had no friends outside of MC's social circle, and had no hobbies outside of being a good student.
Flora is now the one person in her life helping her discover more about herself, as a person and a woman; what she wants to do, where she wants to go.
This isn't the same Marissa you meet at the start of the game, she is on her way to becoming a whole new person... with Flora's help.
Obviously, there is some porn-logic in use here (there has to be), but Marissa discovering a whole new side to herself - without MC present - provides an excellent justification for "experimenting" and, eventually, cheating on him. Hopefully, mostly with Flora, though it seems Adrianna will be a part of that awakening as well.
Yeah and I don't think that porn logic makes much sense in this instance. Marissa might like the attention and enjoy the new things she's doing and feeling. But that doesn't mean she's going to cheat. There might be something that happens that results in her taking the full step, remains to be seen.
I am just expressing that I don't agree with the direction the story is currently taking.
I still enjoy the game though and every other character aside from Marissa is great and I have no complaints about what the little sister and Gemma are doing. That's not even NTR. I just feel like with the message board and the MC having access to it.
Currently it's not had anything to do with the MCs story. It's just the player that's reading it, not him.
It's wasted potential and I feel like it's written like it's supposed to be NTRS and he's supposed to enjoy seeing his "women" doing these things, but he's just oblivious, but it's just forced to be NTR just because that's what the dev wants.
HE just wants to take a perfectly adjusted girl in a happy relationship and within a few months of her boyfriend being away she's going to be a cheating slut for literally no good reason. My personal opinion is that it would have been better if the MC was in on it. HE was one of the people on the message boards and maybe his target was bonnie just like the other guys targets are his gf his siter and his childhood friend.
There are plenty of ways they could have taken this game, but it just feels like to me that he wanted the all women are eventually going to cheat no matter what. Every female in this game is just gonna cheat on their parters because that's what women are, obviously it's an NTR game and it's porn so that's what the characters are going to do. I just don't agree with how little resistance Marissa has to it, so far she's not done anything bad, only the little sister has.
But she's just days off having her lesbian fun with Flora and then off to the races it's too easy.
Time will tell what the dev does of course. I like NTR too, even if NTRS is my preferred thing.
I would have loved it if the MC told Marissa about the message board and they just had their fun with it. Not sure how that would work since the MC's whole personality and Marissa's too would need to be rewritten probably. But hey. That's what I prefer and I'm ok with accepting that's not gonna happen.
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Man, I really wish I checked out this game sooner. There's some decent writing here, the way the NTR is drip-fed to the player makes sense and the forum posts are hilarious to read.
That being said, the lack of Gemma (Definitive Best Girl) content killed me. I really hope I get to see more of her next time.
That being said, the lack of Gemma (Definitive Best Girl) content killed me. I really hope I get to see more of her next time.
Filipis
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People are irrational; women ever more so than men.
Marissa becoming frustrated or jaded at MC for never pushing her to discover more about herself might be all the reason she needs to cheat. And at first, that "cheating" will most likely be just a kiss with Flora, where it felt so good or natural that it makes her question a lot about herself.
The porn-logic applied means it happens faster, not that it's impossible to happen otherwise.
Marissa's whole arc is about growing from a 'repressed' valedictorian girl to an independent, 'liberated' woman that knows what she wants. In that transformation, some resentment is bound to show up towards the person that represents her "old" life - MC.