Ren'Py Divine Dawn [v0.33] [Cryswar]

[Absurdity]

Alright, trying this. Expectations are high just from the class customization, though it doesn't seem that I can pick the custom class unless I'm missing something? Once I pick my stats and element I see no option to go forward. But oh well, picking aeromancer for now.

 

[Cryswar]

Alright, trying this. Expectations are high just from the class customization, though it doesn't seem that I can pick the custom class unless I'm missing something? Once I pick my stats and element I see no option to go forward. But oh well, picking aeromancer for now.

You can make custom classes from the start, yeah. Just keep clicking/tapping the button to the bottom right, iirc after Elements is Equips. You can go back to the previous as well by just clicking the one to the left.

 

[UnDeaD_CyBorG]

Complete honesty, I don't fully understand the first half.

Quite possible it isn't rational. I'm working off fuzzy memory here - I had to reread my earlier, year old comment draft and go from there. At this point this exchange is fresher in my memory than either the game or my thoughts back then.

It may be just, there is such a thing as trying too hard.
Perhaps that is on me; I value control and clarity, and I don't think I've ever been seriously drunk in my life.
As means of an analogy: If you'd only ever have sex while on drugs, can you really tell if it's good? Which I believe is kind of the case here, as exemplified by my likening her to a dealer using her own product.*
It's compounded by the obvious lack of conscious selfcontrol, seeing how the temple scene plays out.
And there's no way to ever bring that up, no way to say "you're a bit much, but it's ok".

failed to explain something properly and gave a darker impression than intended.

Perhaps;

Charm magic mostly accentuates what the target is already feeling.

Maybe that isn't communicated sufficiently, or probably I just overlooked it or forgot (been months between updates in the past, after all, and I didn't get that feeling when first playing).
But, once that trust wasn't there, she kind of creeped me out.

In a way, Sarah reminded me of other game's Yandere characters in her momentary obsessiveness - minus the jealousy, if that even makes any sense.
Which most likely wasn't what you were going for. Just as I really wasn't going for criticising your direction;

It sounds like something I thought was harmless

It probably was.
I am aware the whole camp is basically a therapy circle, and behavior that raises warning flags for me is probably the point.

I mostly answered this now while gathering my thoughts about (before there's a year of distance again and I'm not sure why I had an opinion^^), but I should probably get back to it - it's literally been >10 months. Your explanation of intent is already influencing my outlook, so I'm not sure if could even still advocate my own past position if that was my intent. I appologize if it's a bit of a mess.

Maybe I could start over to get a fresher feel for it;
I do remember that back when I thought I should have started with Earth magic, as there wasn't a teacher for that around at the time, and it promised more interesting interactions.

Edit: I consider it quite fascinating how your intention may diverge from my interpretation, but knowing your intention might change my interpretation, in the same way that the solution to a problem can be "obvious" in hindsight.
*Also, to adress my earlier analogy, I'm aware that there's people, good friends or in a relationship, that meet up and get wasted on the regular - that doesn't mean there's anything wrong with that, just that I can plainly not relate.

 

[Lord Atomsk]

I think i understand what you mean. I'll preface this by saying I don't think that this is the case in the game but, when you first hear charm magic your mind can go to "Subconscious Influence" and when you combine that with succubi before you get a chance to get to know the characters involved it can make you think that even though they think they are attracted to and have feelings/love each other it could just be a mix of a succubi's nature and charm magic influencing them instead of just having a natural spark.

Again though I don't think that's the case in the game at all. It has been a while since i played from the start but from what I remember and what Cryswar has said in the thread already Charm magic just amplifies feelings already there so they wouldn't fall in love solely because of charm magic it just makes them a bit more...frisky when their feelings start running high.

Maybe more powerful succubi could've used it to manipulate people but I believe that would be more of a conscious choice than how it works when we're with Ashley or Sarah anyways.

 

[NullHorizon]

I've only just reached the Camp for the first time, and I've been going through everyone's conversations. Game's been great so far, in a lot of ways!

I do have to ask, though... What's the deal with the way Sam is referred to swapping back and forth? Some remnant from a previous concept for her or something?

 

[TheeSonus]

I do have to ask, though... What's the deal with the way Sam is referred to swapping back and forth? Some remnant from a previous concept for her or something?

Sam is a tomboy now, but previously the player was given the choice to have Sam be just a boy. This was eventually scrapped due to the whole "oh that requires a LOT of scenes to be written twice" along with the fact that, despite the saying being "bros before hoes", there were very few people who chose to follow that phrase and chose the hoe over the bro.
...Admittedly, I am one of those people. But come on, the signature should say it all.

 

[Elona Spiral]

I haven't been here for a long time I think.
The last time I was here, I remember that there weren't any character portraits and the game ended shortly after you reach the village after beating the Eldrich Abomination.

I see that the Dev have added character portraits and you can have deep conversations with some characters.

I want to ask if the game still requires you to min-max in order to keep up with your party members?
By min-max, I mean that you have to put your stat points into a few stats and leave the rest as low as possible.
I'm the type of person who wants to try everything and see which ones are interesting to me, which is why I favor games with an open ended leveling system where you can eventually be strong in most areas, the only investment you need is a lot of time and effort.

 

[NullHorizon]

Sam is a tomboy now, but previously the player was given the choice to have Sam be just a boy. This was eventually scrapped due to the whole "oh that requires a LOT of scenes to be written twice" along with the fact that, despite the saying being "bros before hoes", there were very few people who chose to follow that phrase and chose the hoe over the bro.
...Admittedly, I am one of those people. But come on, the signature should say it all.

Ah, okay, that makes sense, I guess. I imagine the remnants of that still in the dialogue will be cleaned up at some point, then. Definitely doesn't need to be a priority or anything, of course. It just seemed weird and all, y'know?

 

[maroder]

I want to ask if the game still requires you to min-max in order to keep up with your party members?
By min-max, I mean that you have to put your stat points into a few stats and leave the rest as low as possible.
I'm the type of person who wants to try everything and see which ones are interesting to me, which is why I favor games with an open ended leveling system where you can eventually be strong in most areas, the only investment you need is a lot of time and effort.

yes having few very high stat is still best approach. there are some things that ameliorate these 1 that you can respec everything any time you want so if you want to check different playstyle its very easy second technically you can be jack of all trades and make it work but its not easy. you will be losing efficiency for versatility which is interesting choice to make and i have done that but i would not say that its optimal in any way

 

[NullHorizon]

Metatron's big smile, man. It gets me every time.

 

[lazydude]

the weaker sex

haha that makes remember my best friend was once a 300+lb fatass(he's lost a lot of weight since then still fat btw) being effortlessly carried around by his cousin who looks like a gentle breeze could blow her over on a good day that girl was was scrawny as hell back then too heck i could pick her up with one hand

 

[dwel-2]

chose the hoe over the bro.

Me... I had Sam be my bro when it was an option. So much for the bash brothers and trying to see if I could hook him up with one of the girls as well.