"DLSite just deleted the 'petite' tag and blocked off access from overseas " - X (Twitter)

Omnom88

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It looks like there will be further problems in general about adult games and maybe not only....

This is sadly nothing new. The CC duo for the last 3 years now is attacking japanese retailers and otaku content in general. From Melonbooks, pixiv, DLsite, Nintendo, japanese dev on Steam to various other japanese sites and buisness. They are trying to choke out the market at the root. Unless the japanese goverment steps in with legistlation to stop them. They will continue to freeze the transactions of these sites and make them bow down to their mandates/demands or claim illegal content which then pulls the site into a legal battle they can only lose.
 
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F4C430

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Unless the japanese goverment steps in with legistlation to stop them.
At least for the Japanese domestic market they have other options aside from Visa/MC. But i don't think anything will change internationally. I'm pretty sure Visa/MC are unstoppable in their crusade and it's only a matter of time before any work arounds get shut down.
 

ciccabanana

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I could write you the information directly but I prefer to give you the sources and evaluate the situation yourselves, and I was taught to always cite sources.
So I leave here 2 links of videos about the case of the blocking of payments to sites that sell adult games + another about the problem in general (not only for adult game).

The first one ( ) talk about of the same article that i have already mentioned before.

The second one ( ) talks about a list of sites it found with all the sites that have been blocked.
Here is the direct link to the Japan article cited ( ) in the second video, with the list of blocked sites and other info about it.

As a last thing I leave here a news that could show how more serious and complex the problem is.
While I was writing I found this video ( ) that gave me another WTF.
Quick summary: According to the video and the article that I found ( ), most of the electronic payments in Japan are made with Mastercard or Visa.
This means that Mastercard and Visa are forcing the block of purchasing and consequently of production directly in Japan not only outside.
I hadn't figured this out yet... I hope it's not really like that.

At least for the Japanese domestic market they have other options aside from Visa/MC. But i don't think anything will change internationally. I'm pretty sure Visa/MC are unstoppable in their crusade and it's only a matter of time before any work arounds get shut down.
Yes, they have alternatives, but if the article and video are correct, that approximately 70% of electronic payments made in Japan are made via Mastercard or Visa, it requires a massive shift by many.
And most importantly, they need to find payment cards that are not based on the Mastercard or Visa circuits.

As icing on the cake, information discovered through the latest video. (source: )
(╯°益°)╯彡┻━┻ said:
It is Visa’s policy to follow the law of every country in which we do business. We do not make moral judgments on legal purchases made by consumers, and we respect the rightful role of lawmakers to make decisions about what is legal and what is not. Accordingly, Visa can be used only at MindGeek studio sites that feature adult professional actors in legal adult entertainment.
My opinion:
Mastercard and Visa are trying to divert attention to something similar but different after failing to address a much more real case and problem, just to be able to say we did something.
I'm referring to this:
 
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pRoTeCt tHe cHiLdReN :KEK:
If this isn't definition of double standard, then i don't know what.

My opinion:
Mastercard and Visa are trying to divert attention to something similar but different after failing to address a much more real case and problem, just to be able to say we did something.
I'm referring to this:
Most likely. It's easy blame fiction, than stop real problem. Fucking corporate cunts.
 
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extrembusters

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I give up. I can't buy dlsite points because everytime I try it says fraudulent purchase or something and then it returns my money. Probably something to do with an incorrect adrees that I put in the googlepay. As I have no other alternative I guess I will just wait for someone to release the game here wich it's gonna take some time if it will be released at all...I saw the game had only about 100 downloads
 

lamba

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At least for the Japanese domestic market they have other options aside from Visa/MC.
Visa and Mastercard control about 90% of the global payment processing industry.

So it functionally doesn't matter that Japan has domestic credit lenders.
 

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Yes, they have alternatives, but if the article and video are correct, that approximately 70% of electronic payments made in Japan are made via Mastercard or Visa, it requires a massive shift by many.
And most importantly, they need to find payment cards that are not based on the Mastercard or Visa circuits.
JCB is not on the Visa/MC network so for people in Japan that's only as inconvenient as having another CC. Obviously it doesn't help us abroad.

Actually looking more into this JCB has a reciprocal use partnership with Discover Card so i wonder if anyone tried to make a purchase on DLsite using Discover Card? If that works that could be a nice alternative for people who have access to it.
Visa and Mastercard control about 90% of the global payment processing industry.

So it functionally doesn't matter that Japan has domestic credit lenders.
For people in Japan, it does matter that they have options. The rest of my comment you didn't quote is where i also said it doesn't help us internationally. I don't remember what point i was making there but it was probably along the lines of we're screwed but at least they aren't.
 

lamba

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I don't remember what point i was making there but it was probably along the lines of we're screwed but at least they aren't.
There's no half-measure here. If a Japanese storefront wants to accept Visa or Mastercard (if they're tourist-facing, yes, they do) that means they either get to deal with explaining to every gaijin that their plastic ain't accepted, or tow the line and make sure their entire storefront kowtows to the moralistic whims of a bunch of American Puritans because of a scandal involving one of their own porn websites being grossly negligent about policing content posted to their website.
 

wolf-fighter

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vpn, go through the thread and you'll see plenty of options
vpn does not work for some reason anymore. dlsite is completly blocked in germany, yet i can access it with vpn (its set to japan) some weeks ago i saw all products still, now weirdly it says stuff is blocked / not avaible in my region despite still using the same vpn set to japan as before and if i turn the vpn i cant even access dlsite at all, so the vpn does work but it still weirdly region blocks me from certain titles , despite that dlsite is completly blocked in my region originally . i have no idea how to now get the japanese view
 

YuckYuck220

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vpn does not work for some reason anymore. dlsite is completly blocked in germany, yet i can access it with vpn (its set to japan) some weeks ago i saw all products still, now weirdly it says stuff is blocked / not avaible in my region despite still using the same vpn set to japan as before and if i turn the vpn i cant even access dlsite at all, so the vpn does work but it still weirdly region blocks me from certain titles , despite that dlsite is completly blocked in my region originally . i have no idea how to now get the japanese view
That's odd, it still works for me. This might be unique to regions where DLsite is already blocked off entirely. I'm not really savy in this stuff though so my only suggestions would be to try using a different VPN and browser. If that doesn't work then you can always just grab games off of alternative piracy sites without the things like Rule 7 in place, they are usually up to date with their uploads. I don't think I'm allowed to list them here though.
 

wolf-fighter

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i actually figured it out it was a problem with the vpn, i duno why. the vpn worked, because without vpn i cant even get to dlsite at all. but it seems somehow they acted as if it was region blocked and not the japanese thing, maybe something that they put that vpn ip adress to region block? i switched my vpn then (tho i used a paid one so kinda pissed about it it had still a few months of a year subscribtion running >.> ) and what you suggest is pirating . thats anyways also always avaible and easyer . ironically pirating is easyer than buying legall. they only promote pirating with this bulshit . and then despite baning it and making legal purchase impossible, the government will cry about people pirating >.> dumbasses