VN Ren'Py Dog Days of Summer [Rework v0.3.1b] [BlackWeb Games]

[Cygnus X-1]

Happy family reunion!

But that makes me wonder, has the Boozer's family always been like this or is Tara behind it all?
Vivian is just another pawn on Tara's game that she plays so she doesn't get bored.


If the aunt's visit is related to moms reject then maybe she can tell Vivian more about that familys "things" but I really don't think that aunt only appears on the "mom reject" path.

Or she only showed up because Mom went to Germany
Damn I'm jealous of those who can start play this game when it's complete(Someday)// Like other games as well

Of course it's just a game for Tara! When you live forever, you get bored.
And she really likes sex. So it's the best kind of game (for her). Like Sims. Or a porn parody thereof. Wait, you can play Sims like a porn game.
I'm curious if Tara had given Viv's father a boon and what was the price he had to pay.

 

[bacienvu88]

Damn I'm jealous of those who can start play this game when it's complete(Someday)// Like other games as well

Nah, that would mean being ignorant of this awesome game until it is done. That would be no fun. Also would miss all the fun speculation.

 

[Cygnus X-1]

Nah, that would mean being ignorant of this awesome game until it is done. That would be no fun. Also would miss all the fun speculation.

But, come on. Don't you want to know?
By the way, what do you think of my crazy theories? Some pages back.

 

[bacienvu88]

But, come on. Don't you want to know?

Of course I want to know. But I have to tell myself something to not go mad.

By the way, what do you think of my crazy theories? Some pages back.

Are you referring to Mom being MLS neighbors daughter? Doubt it, since Vivian's mom takes dad's sister as lover. So either Amelia is Vivian's aunt or Michelle and Amelia loses neighbors daughter later. Neither sounds particularly fun.

 

[Cygnus X-1]

Of course I want to know. But I have to tell myself something to not go mad.

Are you referring to Mom being MLS neighbors daughter? Doubt it, since Vivian's mom takes dad's sister as lover. So either Amelia is Vivian's aunt or Michelle and Amelia loses neighbors daughter later. Neither sounds particularly fun.

No, you need to go further back. There's like wall of text I posted. Actually several.

 

[Sonny86]

Yep, I wrote about it some time ago.
So, this is now a game of lesbimon?
Gotta catch them all!
But yeah, I'm for mom + auntie.
I kinda assumed aunt was mom's sister. Because double incest.
What happened to father's harem? I guess the same as to Alexander's empire after his death. It fell apart. With some members taking more money and possibly partners, some less.

It's probably dad's sister. That is who mother was involved with before mom hooked up with father. Pretty sure mom mentioned that to daughter.

 

[bacienvu88]

All in all pretty plausible theories. But hopefully we are in for a few surprises as well.

So a slightly revised theory:
Tara is a demon. For reasons unknown she settled in New Amsterdam. Maybe because it's the most populous city / agglomeration in America.

If I've understood the lore correctly, New Amsterdam is more independent than the rest of America in this timeline. Sort of like Hong Kong before Chinese takeover. And being more independent should serve Tara's purposes since it is likely easier to influence politicians in the city than in the country.

She loves sex and she loves women. To have more dolls to play with she used her magic to influence pregnant women to give birth to beautiful gay or bi girls. Tara knew Viv's mom during mom's time in high school or at least after she returned. There was plenty of time to learn about mom's raging libido, roughly 10 years.

When talking to Tara about Mom in the salon, Tara is very well aware of Mom's raging libido at least. The question is if Tara has some deeper plan or if she just wants to have fun.

Maybe Viv's dad just was someone Tara needs to impregnate women so all those lovely lesbians can be born.

Viv was born outside of the city, which rules out direct influence before her birth. It's not impossible, but improbable. Still Viv can be a lesbian. She just doesn't know it yet. Is there a mention of Viv not dating guys or the relationships not being successful or short lived?

Viv definitely dated guys in the past. The game doesn't say much about how long lived those relationships were. Mostly says she has had several boyfriends, she usually don't have sex with them for a few dates and all previous boyfriends were lousy at cunnilingus.

Tara kisses Viv to awaken her sexuality. She boosts her sex appeal via magic, say by increasing her pheromone levels. Which would explain why she could sway Des to have sex with her. Also why Eva is so eager to bed Viv and why Ms Harper desires Viv so much, she tries to get her in any way possible.

I don't think just sex appeal / awakened sexuality is enough to explain Ms Harper's interest in Vivian. Especially not on the dom route. It's like Viv suddenly commands a presence that wasn't there before.

Also remember that Mom has lusted after Vivian long before Tara kissed Viv. So there are other things in play as well.

 

[Sorrow85]

Maybe I'm mixing up another game, but didn't Vivian lose her virginity at 16?(or about around at 16?)
Vivian and Des were definitely straight in the past or I miss something important

 

[Abibliboop]

Maybe I'm mixing up another game, but didn't Vivian lose her virginity at 16?(or about around at 16?)
Vivian and Des were definitely straight in the past or I miss something important

I don't remember when she lost her virginity but you are correct about her being straight and not having the slightest inkling towards lesbian until corrupted by Tara's influence.

 

[bacienvu88]

I don't remember when she lost her virginity but you are correct about her being straight and not having the slightest inkling towards lesbian until corrupted by Tara's influence.

The only virginity we have heard anything about in the game so far is from Katherine. And while we don't get much, that seem to have been a pretty bad with an older man, implied she was very young at the time.

 

[Sorrow85]

The only virginity we have heard anything about in the game so far is from Katherine. And while we don't get much, that seem to have been a pretty bad with an older man, implied she was very young at the time.

Sorry my mistakes, that infromation wasnt in the game after all:

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And it was Des who lost her virginity at 16:

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[bacienvu88]

Sorry my mistakes, that infromation wasnt in the game after all:

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And it was Des who lost her virginity at 16:

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Interesting. Where are those from?

 

[Sorrow85]

Interesting. Where are those from?

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(Eva, Des and Vivian's Bios)

 

[bacienvu88]

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(Eva, Des and Vivian's Bios)

I see. Thanks.

 

[Cygnus X-1]

All in all pretty plausible theories. But hopefully we are in for a few surprises as well.

If I've understood the lore correctly, New Amsterdam is more independent than the rest of America in this timeline. Sort of like Hong Kong before Chinese takeover. And being more independent should serve Tara's purposes since it is likely easier to influence politicians in the city than in the country.

When talking to Tara about Mom in the salon, Tara is very well aware of Mom's raging libido at least. The question is if Tara has some deeper plan or if she just wants to have fun.

Maybe Viv's dad just was someone Tara needs to impregnate women so all those lovely lesbians can be born.

Viv definitely dated guys in the past. The game doesn't say much about how long lived those relationships were. Mostly says she has had several boyfriends, she usually don't have sex with them for a few dates and all previous boyfriends were lousy at cunnilingus.

I don't think just sex appeal / awakened sexuality is enough to explain Ms Harper's interest in Vivian. Especially not on the dom route. It's like Viv suddenly commands a presence that wasn't there before.

Also remember that Mom has lusted after Vivian long before Tara kissed Viv. So there are other things in play as well.

That would make sense as for Tara's choice of location.
Tara is old, no OLD. You can ask yourself how long has she been long influencing New Amsterdam, decades, hundred years, more? I think if she had a plan she would have probably enacted it a long time ago. I guess she just wants to have fun. But what would that plan be, anyway? Creating a kingdom for herself? A sort of sexual utopia? Her own little heaven on earth? Maybe.
I thought about Tara using Viv's father this way. But there are people moving in from outside of the city. So she would not need specifically him to do the job. Unless he was more "proficient" or more willing?
You mentioning Viv's father was more "active" than I remember, makes me think again that it was indeed him that Tara helped out and not her mom like I speculated later on. Is the name a give away? Boone, boon? It has bugged me since I read it.
What if Viv is bisexual? Because if Tara could simply make someone gay, why not just turning any woman in the city? Why there is the need to be born in the city?
Has Tara just awakened something that was already present within Viv, or did the spell not just make her more alluring but more assertive as well? You know, she decided consciously she wants to be more assertive. Her subconsciousnes might have done the trick, if she firmly implanted the idea in her mind.
I assume from her own words, that Ms Harper met Tara, fell in love and Tara broke her heart. Can she smell Tara on Viv? Or did just Viv's transformation pique her curiosity?
Mom is a horny woman who spent too much time under her husband's influence.
Thank you guys for your research. We shall piece this mystery together.

 

[bacienvu88]

That would make sense as for Tara's choice of location.
Tara is old, no OLD. You can ask yourself how long has she been long influencing New Amsterdam, decades, hundred years, more? I think if she had a plan she would have probably enacted it a long time ago. I guess she just wants to have fun. But what would that plan be, anyway? Creating a kingdom for herself? A sort of sexual utopia? Her own little heaven on earth?

I was thinking more females ruling the city/world combined with lesbian sexual utopia.

Is the name a give away? Boone, boon? It has bugged me since I read it.

I find it likely that Boone has some sort of special meaning. But it may not be relevant to the story.

What if Viv is bisexual? Because if Tara could simply make someone gay, why not just turning any woman in the city? Why there is the need to be born in the city?

I don't think Viv is bisexual. She thinks this in a conversation with Shanna on Mom party path and if you select the romance goal:

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Has Tara just awakened something that was already present within Viv, or did the spell not just make her more alluring but more assertive as well? You know, she decided consciously she wants to be more assertive. Her subconsciousnes might have done the trick, if she firmly implanted the idea in her mind.

I think it is a bit of both. My take is that Tara is enabling Viv to consciously be the person she wants to be. And then Tara watches with amusement how Viv progresses. Tara always seem to know exactly what Viv wants though, so it is possible she just changes Viv to be what she wants to be.

I assume from her own words, that Ms Harper met Tara, fell in love and Tara broke her heart. Can she smell Tara on Viv? Or did just Viv's transformation pique her curiosity?

I have been replaying/rereading some of the conversations with Ms. Harper. I don't find where she indicates she have met Tara. What have I missed?

Mom is a horny woman who spent too much time under her husband's influence.
Thank you guys for your research. We shall piece this mystery together.

Soon we shall piece everything together and we won't need to wait for next update.

 

[Cygnus X-1]

I was thinking more females ruling the city/world combined with lesbian sexual utopia.

I find it likely that Boone has some sort of special meaning. But it may not be relevant to the story.

I don't think Viv is bisexual. She thinks this in a conversation with Shanna on Mom party path and if you select the romance goal:

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I think it is a bit of both. My take is that Tara is enabling Viv to consciously be the person she wants to be. And then Tara watches with amusement how Viv progresses. Tara always seem to know exactly what Viv wants though, so it is possible she just changes Viv to be what she wants to be.

I have been replaying/rereading some of the conversations with Ms. Harper. I don't find where she indicates she have met Tara. What have I missed?

Soon we shall piece everything together and we won't need to wait for next update.

I don't think Tara wants to rule New Amsterdam openly. Otherwise she would have already done it. My take is that she considers it her personal playground.
I only picked "get a job" once and then "have fun" afterwards. It does have an effect after all?
There has to be a logical explanation of Viv's sexuality. It has to fit. I don't believe there are any big holes in the story. Not with this level of detail.
I base my suspicion about Ms Harper's involvement with Tara on the conversation she has with Viv if Viv refuses to help Eva cheat nor helps her in any way. Ms Harper has Viv analyze a poem about a person's encounter with a demon, which Viv interprets as just a metaphor. Ms Harper counters that demons are very real. In another playthrough while Tara does Viv's hair in the salon she can ask Tara about any person Viv knows or has met. If the person in question is Ms Harper, Tara's answer seemed very strange. At least to me. And it kind of implied they have met or even have a history (?). I may have misinterpreted Tara's words at the time, because it seemed to me like Tara wanted revenge for something on Ms Harper. Maybe she just wanted to see Viv try. You know, for shits and giggles. Now I remember that at the first meeting with Tara in the gallery, when Viv asks about that painting with vivid colors, Tara tells her that someone with a lot of passion had painted it. When asked whether Tara knew the painter, she responds that the author was better with words. Or something along those lines. It didn't occur to me at first, but now it aligns with my theory that Tara knew Ms Harper. It just shows how much detail is really in the game and how much work must have been put into it.

But you always have to do experiments and make observations to confirm a theory.

 

[Sorrow85]

I base my suspicion about Ms Harper's involvement with Tara on the conversation she has with Viv if Viv refuses to help Eva cheat nor helps her in any way. Ms Harper has Viv analyze a poem about a person's encounter with a demon, which Viv interprets as just a metaphor. Ms Harper counters that demons are very real. In another playthrough while Tara does Viv's hair in the salon she can ask Tara about any person Viv knows or has met. If the person in question is Ms Harper, Tara's answer seemed very strange. At least to me. And it kind of implied they have met or even have a history (?). And at the first meeting with Tara in the gallery, when Viv asks about that painting with vivid colors, Tara tells her that someone with a lot of passion had painted it but she was better with words.

I never thought about M.S Harper's connection to Tara seriously except now and the other one Tara is talking about is Katherine, "If Vivian is a kitty then Katherine is a panther" As Tara way to say it
(You get the Katherine option with Tara at the salon if Des doesn't go to the party and you meet Katherine with Des at the club)

I can't remember if it was Katherine who mentions to Vivian that there are an unusually high number of lesbians in the city.

 

[Cygnus X-1]

I was listening now for the millionth time to this album and when the last song

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played I suddenly imagined Viv holding the whip. Now who would be hung from the ceiling and whailing like a dog while being whipped? Asking for mercy, but secretly begging for more? Ms Harper, would you come forward, please.

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[Cygnus X-1]

I never thought about M.S Harper's connection to Tara seriously except now and the other one Tara is talking about is Katherine, "If Vivian is a kitty then Katherine is a panther" As Tara way to say it
(You get the Katherine option with Tara at the salon if Des doesn't go to the party and you meet Katherine with Des at the club)

I can't remember if it was Katherine who mentions to Vivian that there are an unusually high number of lesbians in the city.

Yes, it is indeed Katherine. During the drinking bout. When she ropes Viv and Des into answering her questions. And adds that she won't even mention the supernatural things happening in the city.
By the way, I used a console code to get a double dose of Des. Both drinking with her and going to the party.