Apparently I submitted to Katarina even though I picked the option that I assumed was the non slave option, hell i remember explicitly picking not be a slave. I assume I "submitted" to Mary even though it's required.
Oh quick question does Mary have soul shard offering scenes because when I tried offering them it didn't work now my character has high stress?
I agree. The consequences of Mary's design urges players to grind for levels and abilities to complete your Skill Tree and try to beat her to continue. That's not how it's supposed to be.
I would have tried to put a level cap on MC (to keep from becoming so powerful that you slaughter the rest of the Dominas) and make it abundantly clear that the MC WASN'T missing anything and would NOT progress without accepting Mary's superiority and being forced to repeatedly choose to fight her (or be enslaved) anyway, KNOWING that MC was too inferior to win. A chastity cage was literally in the build...it could have easily been an EXP-limiting (and enemy drop-limiting for Arcanists) chastity cage letting the player know that no further progress could be made by fighting mobs IF he re-scripted Mary as a Domina who PREFERS to dominate in battle against unruly little men who want to defeat her rather than submissive little men who volunteer to be spit on.
As a femdom-loving afficianado of massive breasts and butts... AND someone who likes games... I was SEVERELY disappointed at how incredibly difficult it would be to NOT demolish a huge, curvy Domina like Rosita by the time I was actually able to fight her and how incredibly difficult and time-consuming it would be to allow her to defeat me.
Same for Franziska. When I could first fight her, I was far too powerful for her to shatter my skull under her glorious ass like she did to that one guy. That'd be a great way to Game Over.
So at that point, not even halfway through, Deka resorted to creating Dominas with annoying super-cheap heals and ability-restricting battle skills... but is limited to making them beatable by an even somewhat below average player to progress in the game. This does not bode well for Hora and future Dominas... plus potentially Llavanya and the Reaper.
So in short it's so busted that it needs a complete revamp....I doubt that would happen saddly since on his patreon he's put the game at 80% complete which pretty much means that after Hora we might get 1 more Domina if we are lucky,so the 13 (14) idea is out of the window.I guess he just doesn't want to deal with it anymore and just get as much cash out of it as possible.A shame but I can't say it is unnexpected.
So in short it's so busted that it needs a complete revamp....I doubt that would happen saddly since on his patreon he's put the game at 80% complete which pretty much means that after Hora we might get 1 more Domina if we are lucky,so the 13 (14) idea is out of the window.I guess he just doesn't want to deal with it anymore and just get as much cash out of it as possible.A shame but I can't say it is unnexpected.
Incorrect. The plan is still for 13 according to the discord. The 80% complete thing is odd but I don’t take much stock in the figures on the patreon in general.
Incorrect. The plan is still for 13 according to the discord. The 80% complete thing is odd but I don’t take much stock in the figures on the patreon in general.
Is a femdom game about femdom fights focused on femdom content too much to ask for these days?
Patreon has ruined people, as money usually does.
No one boots up a porn game to read epic rpg maker fantasy lore. I don't care about your persona tier school system with stats, I don't want to run around your giant ass fantasy college to get from scene to scene. I don't want to write down attack patterns and remember mechanics. I want to fucking edge myself and then blow my God damn God-forsaken load.
No amount of good writing will save your game if I have to hold down CTRL or mash X for half the experience.
A lot of these games start out good.
The reason ToT is popular is because it's first 5 floors are just that. Once "mechanics" and "lore" and "branching paths" start getting added the experience fucking falls apart like a jenga tower. The rest of ToT, and some fights before, is a mess of TL;DR. Floor 7 was a fucking joke, the definition of not just sniffing your own farts, but eating your own shit with it as well. If it takes 30 minutes to get a scene in a porn game, you have fucking failed.
Domina, same thing. First 3 are were fucking amazing. Apart from the 20 minute slog of an intro, it was just linear fights with dommy girls. Then bullshit was added, overcomplicated mechanics that break at the gust of wind, huge, giant fucking rooms that need to be "explored", constant roadblocks with random fucking skeletons that no one fights, you don't need the xp and it's faster to just surrender to them and continue. An epic "2smart4u" mary sue that you need to lose 10 times to which to this day fills the forum with spam because people have no idea how to get past the annoying green goblin woman. Fights that focus more on "epic rpg mechanics" instead of having a simple "kick to the balls" or a "slap move" or fucking hell just spit in my face woman, I don't care about your flame pillars and your water bending.
Katalist? If you can get past the 0/10 horrible intro it's a steady stream of good content, it's just not enough. Also has a lore issue.
A new life in Submission gets tossed around as being the best femdom game lately but it feels like only 20% of the content is femdom related. The rest is fucking RUNNING AROUND A GOD DAMN COLLEGE DOING GOD DAMN FUCKING ERRANDS. No. I don't fucking care. My CTRL key almost broke from playing that game, it even tells you at the start to just fucking skip the ENCYLOPEDIA OF DIALOGUE it has between every single scene. The quality of the scenes themselves is completely irrelevant if the journey to them is a horrible slog.
And what is the reason? Why does this happen? Well it's because these people make Patreon content, not games. And people on patreon love to validate whatever they give money to, it's just sunk cost fallacy. So if a game strokes your balls enough that you give the dev money for more content, chances are you're going to suck that dev's cock in the comments or in their EPIC circlejerk discord, and they'll start thinking they're an actual game fucking developer.
The final nail of proof in the coffin is of course Dekarous, who is a pea-brained mongoloid man. Just fucking look at MHC. Look at it. Look at how pathetic it is. 30 minutes in and you can barely get a scene. fucking COLLEGE SETTING. THIRTY FUCKING MINUTES BETWEEN SCENES THAT LAST 1-2 MINUTES.
Stop fucking giving these retards money. Fucking STOP you simp-brained mongoloids.
Considering every domina that didn’t have a toilet scene had it get voted for in their polls when they added scenes I’d bet they added it to Hora ahead of time so it wouldn’t need to get voted for again.
Ok so we have Narcissa, Rosita, and Fran with Scat.
I get Domina is a "hardcore" game but Jesus Christ it's Scat.
It's a fetish about lumps of digested matter that only microbes can really consume, we have an inherent disgust for poop because it barely has any nutrition and it attracts possibly dangerous microbes, but we have so much of it in the game, probably because Scat is an absurdly niche fetish so it's included as an option.
I'll give Deka credit for making it obvious and optional, for Narcissa at least I've just started Rosita.
This is an issue I've seen with quite a few Adult Games, by trying to appeal to many and turning away quite a few. I mean it's one of the reasons NTR is so hated in doujins and hentai, because your just enjoying yourself with your nice vanilla hentai with a big dicked MC who looks like an extra in anything that isn't an ecchi or hentai, then some fat old man comes in and rapes the female character. On paper your satisfying both audiences by giving the what they want but in practice the vanilla boys are angry at getting cockblocked and the NTR gang have to trudge through half the damn thing to find what they want.
While Domina doesn't suffer from this issue as much thanks to a combination of the game giving the player an expectation of things to come with BDSM being the most mild fetish in the game, and the offending content being optional. It does suffer from the issue that the NTR fans have in my sterotypical doujin of needing to avoid or trudge through the stuff they don't like to find what they do like, but in Hentai games this is a worse problem than Doujins because you need to play the game to get to the content, so if you aren't into scat you have to trudge through to actually find something you like.
But you what an issue with Domina is, you can't fight previous Dominas, so if the current domina has content you don't like you need to load a save or start a new game to get to that Domina, and for a JRPG even a short one like this that's a pain in the ass.
Ok so we have Narcissa, Rosita, and Fran with Scat.
I get Domina is a "hardcore" game but Jesus Christ it's Scat.
It's a fetish about lumps of digested matter that only microbes can really consume, we have an inherent disgust for poop because it barely has any nutrition and it attracts possibly dangerous microbes, but we have so much of it in the game, probably because Scat is an absurdly niche fetish so it's included as an option.
I'll give Deka credit for making it obvious and optional, for Narcissa at least I've just started Rosita.
This is an issue I've seen with quite a few Adult Games, by trying to appeal to many and turning away quite a few. I mean it's one of the reasons NTR is so hated in doujins and hentai, because your just enjoying yourself with your nice vanilla hentai with a big dicked MC who looks like an extra in anything that isn't an ecchi or hentai, then some fat old man comes in and rapes the female character. On paper your satisfying both audiences by giving the what they want but in practice the vanilla boys are angry at getting cockblocked and the NTR gang have to trudge through half the damn thing to find what they want.
While Domina doesn't suffer from this issue as much thanks to a combination of the game giving the player an expectation of things to come with BDSM being the most mild fetish in the game, and the offending content being optional. It does suffer from the issue that the NTR fans have in my sterotypical doujin of needing to avoid or trudge through the stuff they don't like to find what they do like, but in Hentai games this is a worse problem than Doujins because you need to play the game to get to the content, so if you aren't into scat you have to trudge through to actually find something you like.
But you what an issue with Domina is, you can't fight previous Dominas, so if the current domina has content you don't like you need to load a save or start a new game to get to that Domina, and for a JRPG even a short one like this that's a pain in the ass.
I don’t really see the issue with the game having scat since it’s optional. I find it absolutely disgusting but I also know it wouldn’t have won every poll if there weren’t a decent amount of people into it. I simply ignore it.
Ok so we have Narcissa, Rosita, and Fran with Scat.
I get Domina is a "hardcore" game but Jesus Christ it's Scat.
It's a fetish about lumps of digested matter that only microbes can really consume, we have an inherent disgust for poop because it barely has any nutrition and it attracts possibly dangerous microbes, but we have so much of it in the game, probably because Scat is an absurdly niche fetish so it's included as an option.
I'll give Deka credit for making it obvious and optional, for Narcissa at least I've just started Rosita.
This is an issue I've seen with quite a few Adult Games, by trying to appeal to many and turning away quite a few. I mean it's one of the reasons NTR is so hated in doujins and hentai, because your just enjoying yourself with your nice vanilla hentai with a big dicked MC who looks like an extra in anything that isn't an ecchi or hentai, then some fat old man comes in and rapes the female character. On paper your satisfying both audiences by giving the what they want but in practice the vanilla boys are angry at getting cockblocked and the NTR gang have to trudge through half the damn thing to find what they want.
While Domina doesn't suffer from this issue as much thanks to a combination of the game giving the player an expectation of things to come with BDSM being the most mild fetish in the game, and the offending content being optional. It does suffer from the issue that the NTR fans have in my sterotypical doujin of needing to avoid or trudge through the stuff they don't like to find what they do like, but in Hentai games this is a worse problem than Doujins because you need to play the game to get to the content, so if you aren't into scat you have to trudge through to actually find something you like.
But you what an issue with Domina is, you can't fight previous Dominas, so if the current domina has content you don't like you need to load a save or start a new game to get to that Domina, and for a JRPG even a short one like this that's a pain in the ass.
While some of the scat scenes being added was due to patreon votes, the inclusion of the fetish in the game had almost nothing to do with the patreons. Even Dek's previous game had scat content and refrences to scat before Domina was made. Game developers make games for many different reasons, some for the money while others as an outlet for their own fantasies. We all want money to survive, but there are very few who would add content into our creations we don't like just to get more money. Its also easy to tell when a fetish has been added by a creator without having the fetish themselves. I may have a partial fetish for feet, but it would be easy to tell any foot fetish scenes I would make wouldn't have the same passion behind it another foot fetish fan would have. Also, while scat isn't a massively popular fetish, its at least fully optional. Some of the scenes in the game are not, and they can be more hardcore than scat. You haven't met the domina that is the most contraversial if you have only made it to Rosita. You got canibals, plague spreaders, and extreme torturers, but pretty much every domina in the game wants to not only kill the MC, but also harm his loved ones and destroy the world. Taboo wouldn't be the word I would use to describe this games content.
Another note, I have no idea why people keep forgetting that ToT isn't a femdom and foot fetish game. You can even see the genre in the title "Tower of Trample: A Reverse Ryona Game." There are many foot fetish scenes and its what probably gave me a partial foot fetish, but its mainly about females brutally beating up males. Its the reason why there are some pretty brutal beatings that the MC takes. Over time its become more femdom focused than reverse ryona, but even now they are still having a large focus on reverse ryona.
As someone who enjoys the toilet stuff I apologize for some of the unskippable stuff like Rosita's attacks, Narcissa's toxic lactation (also breast milk fan but thats less offensive ig?)
And whatever other unskippable content exists, I think deka should bury some of the more extreme fetishes a little better so you have to deliberately go out of your way to encounter them
Don't really appreciate the kinkshaming though,
if you're willing to lick the heel of someone's foot lets not pretend you're above someone elses preferences.
Here’s the thing: One of the many problems with Domina isn’t the scat content. It’s actually how nearly every Dominas have virtually the same content (minus 1 or 2 and then have like one that isn’t as often used) and the way it is written and shown, making all the Dominas pretty much interchangeable.
All Dominas (except Raa to my knowledge) have scat. Does it make Raa better tho? Well, poor writing and lack of content point to "Not really".
Domina suffers from bad writing, no Domina being really unique, poor gameplay overall (where you can break the game simply by blowing some air on it), etc. Etc.
Look at games like ToT or Katalist. Their dominas have a lot of common fetishes, but most of them will focus on a particular type of. Not only that, but they’ll also have interactions about the way you lose or been victim of said fetishes. Which is a thing Domina doesn’t do.
Dekarous goes out with no direction for his games and it shows. Domina feels like a tech demo for Katalist. Which is preposterous because isn’t Katalist older and technically has lower budget from Patreons?
All I’m saying is… When there’s scat content being revealed, please don’t act like your expectations are being shattered. You should already have low expectations to begin with as you’re just waiting for the same old shit every update. It’s the Dekarous way. Always has been, always will be.
As someone who enjoys the toilet stuff I apologize for some of the unskippable stuff like Rosita's attacks, Narcissa's toxic lactation (also breast milk fan but thats less offensive ig?)
And whatever other unskippable content exists, I think deka should bury some of the more extreme fetishes a little better so you have to deliberately go out of your way to encounter them
Don't really appreciate the kinkshaming though,
if you're willing to lick the heel of someone's foot lets not pretend you're above someone elses preferences.
I mean when you actually get to Rosita you are so OP that it's barely there before you beat her in like 2 mins.As someone else already pointed out the main problem in my eyes as well is the writting after the first 4 went down the "toilet" and probably focusing on every domina having every possible fetish is to appease those that just want those scenes.If each domina had specific preferences and better writting I don't think anyone would have a problem with scat content.It just devolved into "We want to destroy the world and your family (for some reason)" and that's all there is to it anymore.Katrina had a minor convo about how she wants to prove she's stronger than the rest and was making that potion for that reason,it's a small detail but it adds to character development and reasons.1 sided characters will always kill off a story,ofc they want to destroy and reshape the world that's fine but having nothing else beyond that is the problem in my eyes.
While some of the scat scenes being added was due to patreon votes, the inclusion of the fetish in the game had almost nothing to do with the patreons. Even Dek's previous game had scat content and refrences to scat before Domina was made. Game developers make games for many different reasons, some for the money while others as an outlet for their own fantasies. We all want money to survive, but there are very few who would add content into our creations we don't like just to get more money. Its also easy to tell when a fetish has been added by a creator without having the fetish themselves. I may have a partial fetish for feet, but it would be easy to tell any foot fetish scenes I would make wouldn't have the same passion behind it another foot fetish fan would have. Also, while scat isn't a massively popular fetish, its at least fully optional. Some of the scenes in the game are not, and they can be more hardcore than scat. You haven't met the domina that is the most contraversial if you have only made it to Rosita. You got canibals, plague spreaders, and extreme torturers, but pretty much every domina in the game wants to not only kill the MC, but also harm his loved ones and destroy the world. Taboo wouldn't be the word I would use to describe this games content.
Another note, I have no idea why people keep forgetting that ToT isn't a femdom and foot fetish game. You can even see the genre in the title "Tower of Trample: A Reverse Ryona Game." There are many foot fetish scenes and its what probably gave me a partial foot fetish, but its mainly about females brutally beating up males. Its the reason why there are some pretty brutal beatings that the MC takes. Over time its become more femdom focused than reverse ryona, but even now they are still having a large focus on reverse ryona.
Ok thanks for clarifying, and while I always assumed Deka was into this shit, It's good to have an idea that Deka is more someone who is into the things his patrons are and it's just Deka makes stuff that they both like.
I'm not sure why the scat being optional is being brought up, since it was something I gave Deka credit for. My honest thoughts on The optional Scat content in Domina is that Deka could of spent that time on something else. Franz is hated because of how extreme her content is but would she still be hated if you could skip those scenes, or the game was made in a way that it was more like Narcissa and that they are punishments? Personally I think that while adding a skip button for scenes just in case you don't like a required scene or just in case you misclick on a optional scene would improve the game, it still doesn't change the fact that Franz sucks and her content is something people want to skip, for people into guro Franz is great for everyone else it sucks. That's the issue with the Scat content making it takes away from other content that people want, every scat scene could of been something else. Now that attitude sounds entitled, and it is but it is an attitude most people have most just think it, whenever something people like does something they don't they get annoyed, for example Skyrim may be a popular game and many Elder Scrolls fans enjoyed it, many weren't happy about the changes Skyrim made to levelling, attributes, and skills. Some played the game enjoyed it and merely preferred the old system, other fans consider it one of Skyrim's major flaws and dislike the game because of it, while comparing game mechanics to fetishes in a porn game might not be one-to-one comparison I believe it gets the point across about how even if some people like a thing they might have issues with it that other people consider positives. Being fair to Deka with this being a subjective issue the best he can't really completely fix the issue since no matter what he does people are gonna be angry, but there are a few ways he can minimize it.
-Make it optional, which he does for scat at least.
-Add a skip button, because speeding through a scene that's meant to be long enough to get your rocks off to with pictures isn't going to prevent the player from being disgusted.
-Add a Gallery, or Area that let's you re-fight previous Dominas. One of the reasons I think everyone is complaining about the Scat content now and looking back fondly on the older Dominas is that you can't revisit the older Dominas, you just have to keep a save file on hand if you want to jack it in a porn game.
-Development Speed, when you take several months to update a game that's made in a engine that exist primarily as a way for people wonder why snakes are in a discussion about programming when you mention Python, each update is a relatively simple "Dungeon" with some cookie cutter enemies and a big boss, and the art is shitty anime art, that doesn't even have the excuse of being rushed for animation. People are probably going to be pissed off that they waited months for a tiny "Dungeon", centered around a boss that can be easily defeated due to how broken the game is, with the only thing stopping you from winning being some Scripted BS (Mary), or wanting to experience the content. Players are going to be pissed off that the thing they came for isn't for them when they waited so long. Quicker development would make it so people don't have inflated expectations and don't feel cheated, if things are done quick enough content can even be added to Domina's the community doesn't like so angry players at least have something for the more Taboo (to clarify I'm using this for the sake of Neutrality) Dominas.
While some of the scat scenes being added was due to patreon votes, the inclusion of the fetish in the game had almost nothing to do with the patreons. Even Dek's previous game had scat content and refrences to scat before Domina was made. Game developers make games for many different reasons, some for the money while others as an outlet for their own fantasies. We all want money to survive, but there are very few who would add content into our creations we don't like just to get more money. Its also easy to tell when a fetish has been added by a creator without having the fetish themselves. I may have a partial fetish for feet, but it would be easy to tell any foot fetish scenes I would make wouldn't have the same passion behind it another foot fetish fan would have. Also, while scat isn't a massively popular fetish, its at least fully optional. Some of the scenes in the game are not, and they can be more hardcore than scat. You haven't met the domina that is the most contraversial if you have only made it to Rosita. You got canibals, plague spreaders, and extreme torturers, but pretty much every domina in the game wants to not only kill the MC, but also harm his loved ones and destroy the world. Taboo wouldn't be the word I would use to describe this games content.
Another note, I have no idea why people keep forgetting that ToT isn't a femdom and foot fetish game. You can even see the genre in the title "Tower of Trample: A Reverse Ryona Game." There are many foot fetish scenes and its what probably gave me a partial foot fetish, but its mainly about females brutally beating up males. Its the reason why there are some pretty brutal beatings that the MC takes. Over time its become more femdom focused than reverse ryona, but even now they are still having a large focus on reverse ryona.
I would of included this in the first reply but that was getting long, but my guy I read your point on ToT and I can't understand why you think that way. How is Reverse Ryona not Femdom? Moy point about ToT is that it mainly focused on a general fetish like Femdom that encompasses things like Reverse Ryona. I can understand disputing the Foot fetish focus because Reverse Ryona is certainly the most focused on specific fetish in the game with feet coming under it. Bu that still leaves me wondering why do you think femdom is separate from Reverse Ryona?
>Post-Orgasm Torture and Toilet Fetish
Oh right, I almost forgot why I loved this game so much at the start.
Come on Dekraous you haven't written about scat in a while, flex that imagination a bit.
I hope this is as good as Rosita's scat scene, because the Twin's scat content was just so bad and derivative.
For anyone complaining, Dekarous has always said from the start that every second Domina was going to have scat content.
And God damn this girl looks like Katrina 2.0, actually insanely hyped for this.
Really hoping this is Dekarous' redemption arc.
DD
