Bro, i don't know what you're talking about. Some people are talking about the characters. They kinda unlikeable. Don't need to have NTR to have unlikeable characters. If this is the game, then I think he should have it how he wants, but criticism is fair in any work. Some games are for you and some aren't, doesn't make you immune from criticism.I see the very special F95 crowd (you know who are them) did it again but the dev didn't falter.
We've all been there, there's no escape from thembecause the only thing they are good for in life is shitting on hard working devs like you EmotionalTokyo.Games
I see the renders are very decent. I'll try the game and leave a review if I can remember to do it
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"Romanic interest" is inherently subjective though. For sure this game is aimed at a more ntr-ish crowd, don't deny that. However I always bristle at the ever-widening net of ntr defiinitions to basically encompass everything outside the most insecure betaboy's harem definition. Though this game certainly isn't that, so I agree it's a poor argument here.
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Wow. Let's summarize this thread:
Dev creates a really nice looking game but
The way I see it, this project is an eye catcher. And although the dev doesn't know the rules, his work has potential. Maybe needs a better writer but the whole can be a success.
Let's hope, the dev finds a way to do that.
Dev creates a really nice looking game but
- Awards himself 5 stars. Review is then removed.
- A new member that turns out he's dev's pal, reviews again and gives 5 stars. Review removed.
- The title song is copyrighted and will be removed.
- The version was erroneously 1.0 but is corrected now to 0.1
- The story turns out has unavoidable NTR without the appropriate tag to warn players.
- The MC is weak but there's an option to strangle a girl. WTF?
- Then for some reason the dev gets his page removed from Patreon! And SS is reviewing his case (a procedure that can take months)
The way I see it, this project is an eye catcher. And although the dev doesn't know the rules, his work has potential. Maybe needs a better writer but the whole can be a success.
Let's hope, the dev finds a way to do that.
That aside, the OP says multiple endings are planned. Calling it a kinetic novel means that there are no choices, and you're just reading a story. The fact that multiple endings are planned would negate the tag of "kinetic novel." Yes, there were no real deviations in this first update, but that doesn't mean future updates won't have different choices and outcomes. First updates tend to not have many choices, so this isn't new.
Anyway, a couple of things I read in other people's comments. Yes, this is definitely NTR. MC is obsessed with Amanda, and she's hooking up with Oliver behind his back. That's NTR. NTR is different from cheating and cucking. The MC doesn't need to be in a relationship for it to be NTR. And MC is definitely being betrayed by Amanda. If he were to find out, he'll flip out or be devastated.
With that being said, I liked this first update. I think the set up is interesting, and it gives the potential for a lot of hijinks to happen during the party. I wouldn't recommend rewriting the intro (ie, removing the NTR since 90% of time, "rewriting" is another way of saying removing NTR). NTR haters have already blacklisted the game. Even if you go back and remove every trace of NTR, they won't be coming back to support the game. I haven't seen a game on this site remove NTR introduced in the first update, and then draw back in those people they hoped to salvage. Stick to your original outline. Besides, NTR haters have a ton of options out there, way more than NTR lovers or people neutral to NTR. And we don't have enough NTR redemption stories. I want to see MC start of at a low point, but grow to become a man that gets all the ladies (or possibly fails along the way, as an alternate route).
The ultimate determining factor for a game's success is the quality. If it's good, it'll be successful. Just focus on creating quality work and the support will come. And don't try to appease everyone.
P.S.: If there is ANY thing I really didn't like about the update, it was having to choose between punching Sadie, or getting a BJ from her and pissing off Amanda. I feel like you shouldn't have to punch her to avoid that outcome. Speaking of which, whether you get a BJ or not, Amanda still acts pissed at you as if she caught you hooking up with Sadie. That seems like a mistake.
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It's from the subjective view of the MC though...and he is interested in Amanda romatically.
I suppose that's true, and indeed fits with the site definition, so my issue is more with the tag itself as it encompasses too broad of a swath. You can have games where there's a distant girl at the MC's school with a boyfriend put in the same category as ones where villians break into MC's house and kidnap his wife. Hopefully when the V2 tags come EVENTUALLY
it'll better categorize this stuff.
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If it were just the NTR...I would just say "Hey, good luck Dev...but not for me"
These are the kind of things that need the re-write. The way the MC is now...he's the typical incel "nice guy"...that's actually a vicious psychopath underneath it all. And the rest of the characters aren't much better.
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That much I can agree with. The context of the NTR is just as, if not more, important as the tag itself.I suppose that's true, and indeed fits with the site definition, so my issue is more with the tag itself as it encompasses too broad of a swath. You can have games where there's a distant girl at the MC's school with a boyfriend put in the same category as ones where villians break into MC's house and kidnap his wife. Hopefully when the V2 tags come EVENTUALLY
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They need to talk about why she's blowing him yet running off with some other dude. Is there something to this, or are they just f*ck buddies?
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"He's a psychotic and with Sadie showing up right now he's even closer to the edge than normal. If he found out about us...he'd murder us both."
Review for version 0.1.
(Posting here for discussion)
An excellent pilot. 9/10.
Characters:
Great. None of them say what they mean, so the dynamic there is great and it gives you mystery to work with.
Plot and flow:
Great too. Fast but not choppy. Scenes flow into each other naturally and you actively want to know what happens in the next scene.
Also a lot of authors either make sex-scenes boring - just pounding with no dialogue or tension; or everything around them boring and pretentious.
Glad to say that is not the case in here.
Humor:
Great glue for the plot, without going into the sunset on the unrelated for a porn game topic for half an hour.
CG's:
Sexy - in and out of the sex scenes.
Love the artstyle. Reminds me of "Perverted Action: Timelaps". And it was great.
Although it would be better to not make the guys' eyes so big - it makes them look cute instead of handsome.
Sound:
Music's good.
There's some sounds besides that, but NO sex sounds during sex-scenes. Definitely would be a great addition for the next version.
Cons:
-Text needs heavy redacting.
I assume author is not a native english speaker - which is alright, me neither - but you always could give it to someone else before release to rearrange some words around.
-Nonsensical choice system.
You miss a sex scene if you go to the girl you like; but then you get HER scene if you go for ANOTHER girl.
Nonsense.
It's alright for now because it's still a pilot and there's very little content. But in the future that shit would be unplayable without a walkthrough. And in that case - why even have choices in the first place?
(Posting here for discussion)
An excellent pilot. 9/10.
Characters:
Great. None of them say what they mean, so the dynamic there is great and it gives you mystery to work with.
Plot and flow:
Great too. Fast but not choppy. Scenes flow into each other naturally and you actively want to know what happens in the next scene.
Also a lot of authors either make sex-scenes boring - just pounding with no dialogue or tension; or everything around them boring and pretentious.
Glad to say that is not the case in here.
Humor:
Great glue for the plot, without going into the sunset on the unrelated for a porn game topic for half an hour.
CG's:
Sexy - in and out of the sex scenes.
Love the artstyle. Reminds me of "Perverted Action: Timelaps". And it was great.
Although it would be better to not make the guys' eyes so big - it makes them look cute instead of handsome.
Sound:
Music's good.
There's some sounds besides that, but NO sex sounds during sex-scenes. Definitely would be a great addition for the next version.
Cons:
-Text needs heavy redacting.
I assume author is not a native english speaker - which is alright, me neither - but you always could give it to someone else before release to rearrange some words around.
-Nonsensical choice system.
You miss a sex scene if you go to the girl you like; but then you get HER scene if you go for ANOTHER girl.
Nonsense.
It's alright for now because it's still a pilot and there's very little content. But in the future that shit would be unplayable without a walkthrough. And in that case - why even have choices in the first place?
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I like none of the characters in this game. The art is eye catching, but not enough to read through this for. For Ronny's sake, he should cut ties with everyone he knows, and read some self improvement books.
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Let them talk what they want, but the best thing is that she is going to leave the city (or the country) and hopefully we will never see her again.
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Your review of 9/10 seems a little high when taking your negatives into consideration. "Nonsensical choice system" feels like it should bump off at least another point all on its own.
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This game is a cluster fuck and i LOVE it even tho i dont necessarily enjoy netorare without either netori or same way to reverse netorare. (dev confirmed it's coming oh it gonna be crazier)
Good game so far, but PLEASE in the name of sweet Baby Jesus dont giveup or fail this game, it can be soooo good with some labor of love.
Good game so far, but PLEASE in the name of sweet Baby Jesus dont giveup or fail this game, it can be soooo good with some labor of love.
Nah, I'll just slap a walkthrough on top of it and it won't even be an issue. AND it's a very easy fix for an author - if he ever come around to it.
On the other hand, if the game had poor characters, bad pacing or boring sex scenes - now THAT would be a problem, knocking down points left and right.
Because neither me, nor even author himself could fix such problems easily.
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I suppose we have different opinions about the characters. I can't stand any of them.
I suppose insteadof just grilling you about your review I should just put up my own.