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Well i cant wait fo r the ot progression and get some more answers about nora and the father but....did mom's ass get a LOT smaller in this pic?
 

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Hi all, I need help for the game, I can not open it because it tells me this error..
Did you change the filename? In your screenshot it shows the filename ending with ".exe .exe". It should just be "DreamsOfDesireEP9.exe" with no space at the end. Try renaming the file and see if that helps?
 

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You're fine with the MC brainwashing/letting dream demons possess his family for the sole reason to fuck them but when there's no verbal brainwashed consent that's somehow bad? Don't wanna be mean but you realize how silly that sounds right? If consent not being given is a squeamish factor for you, you probably shouldn't play DoD cause there's only like 1 person who isn't brainwashed into fucking the MC. Also the game literally has 'Dreams' in it's title so there's going to be a lot of 'sleeping' sexual content whether it be groping or actual sex.

Well the spell makes the person want to sleep with you or at least believe they want to. It increases sexual desire towards you it doesnt violate free will. With the sleep groaping thing its literally like rape, you never been with this chick before yet you are feeling her up in her sleep. Its creepy as fuck.

As far as the demons go, MC is not aware of exactly how that gos down in the dream world until arguably the last few updates.
 

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Hello, I'm about to start the game and I was wondering how Dr. Sin managed to work with the new patreon policy.
Is there still incest in the game? I'm sorry if it sounds as a stupid question, but I've read that the patreon version of the game is 100% incest free and I just wanted to understand things better.
 

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Yeah there is still incest in the game thanks to a patch, which is included in the download on OP.
 

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Well the spell makes the person want to sleep with you or at least believe they want to. It increases sexual desire towards you it doesnt violate free will. With the sleep groaping thing its literally like rape, you never been with this chick before yet you are feeling her up in her sleep. Its creepy as fuck.

As far as the demons go, MC is not aware of exactly how that gos down in the dream world until arguably the last few updates.
By your definition of free will, giving rohypnol or some other drug to your "date" that affects her ability to think clearly and/or increases her libido enough to make her believe that she wants to have sex with you, is totally OK and having sex with her in that drugged state isn't rape. Doesn't matter that without the drugs she'd never even consider having sex with you.
That's an interesting approach. And no, not creepy at all. :rolleyes:
 
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By your definition of free will, giving rohypnol or some other drug to your "date" that affects her ability to think clearly and/or increases her libido enough to make her believe that she wants to have sex with you, is totally OK and having sex with her in that drugged state isn't rape. Doesn't matter that without the drugs she'd never even consider having sex with you.
That's an interesting approach. And no, not creepy at all. :rolleyes:

Well there is legislation against drugs but not against spells and witchcraft. Thats the first point. Secondly with spells you can say it perfectly effects the persons desire without effecting their free will, because its magic in fantasy we are talking about. You can write it to do whatever you want. With drugs they are physical, they get a person high, it comes with a risk of OD and death, they do effect judgment ontop of everything else, ect ect. Yes slipping someone Ex without their consent to sleep with them is a form of rape, using a spell is not, at least in a fantasy setting imo. Depends what the spell is though. DoD spell is not rape IMO.
 

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Well there is legislation against drugs but not against spells and witchcraft. Thats the first point. Secondly with spells you can say it perfectly effects the persons desire without effecting their free will, because its magic in fantasy we are talking about. You can write it to do whatever you want. With drugs they are physical, they get a person high, it comes with a risk of OD and death, they do effect judgment ontop of everything else, ect ect. Yes slipping someone Ex without their consent to sleep with them is a form of rape, using a spell is not, at least in a fantasy setting imo. Depends what the spell is though. DoD spell is not rape IMO.
Well... it would be rape if such a thing existed in the real world. But it's a game, and a game with magic in it, so it's utterly moot. I'm just chiming in to say that it's not illegal for the same reason it's not illegal to feed unicorn meat to elf pre-schoolers or take a shit off the edge of your flying carpet in the Shire. If those things existed they'd have to be legislated. If a magic hypno-sex spell book existed then it'd get a statute. But it doesn't. Because it's a game. So, we can just enjoy it, consequence free, knowing that only in the Tron alternate dimension are actual sentient creatures being forced against their will into incest scenarios with magic powers.
 
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Well... it would be rape if such a thing existed in the real world. But it's a game, and a game with magic in it, so it's utterly moot. I'm just chiming in to say that it's not illegal for the same reason it's not illegal to feed unicorn meat to elf pre-schoolers or take a shit off the edge of your flying carpet in the Shire. If those things existed they'd have to be legislated. If a magic hypno-sex spell book existed then it'd get a statute. But it doesn't. Because it's a game. So, we can just enjoy it, consequence free, knowing that only in the Tron alternate dimension are actual sentient creatures being forced against their will into incest scenarios with magic powers.

Well lets say some ancient magic was discovered and abused. It technically wouldnt be illegal and the government would have no authority to prosecute. But anyways, the spell causes the user to have desire and want to have sex with the caster. Its similar to Ex, its still borderline rapey though while Ex against users consent is rape in all cases.

As long as the "victim" is unaware they are under the influence of some ancient powerful lust magic, and they believe its them doing it, its like not really rape. You could make the same case for drugs I guess, but drugs get you high, leave traces in your system, and are understood unlike magic. The victim should have suspicions of being drugged, but with magic they shouldnt unless they are familiar with the arcane arts.

So the spell is borderline rape, and is probably technically rape, but at least the spell makes the "victim" want to sleep with you and causes them to have uncontrollable lusts, so they dont "feel" like they have been raped.

The sexual groaping while they are asleep is kind of pathetic imo. The MC is such a lust ridden horndog that he cant help himself but feel up his family members while they sleep and jack off, even after he gets laid
 

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Well lets say some ancient magic was discovered and abused. It technically wouldnt be illegal and the government would have no authority to prosecute. But anyways, the spell causes the user to have desire and want to have sex with the caster. Its similar to Ex, its still borderline rapey though while Ex against users consent is rape in all cases.

As long as the "victim" is unaware they are under the influence of some ancient powerful lust magic, and they believe its them doing it, its like not really rape. You could make the same case for drugs I guess, but drugs get you high, leave traces in your system, and are understood unlike magic. The victim should have suspicions of being drugged, but with magic they shouldnt unless they are familiar with the arcane arts.

So the spell is borderline rape, and is probably technically rape, but at least the spell makes the "victim" want to sleep with you and causes them to have uncontrollable lusts, so they dont "feel" like they have been raped.
It would definitely take a while for the laws to catch up. Years. Decades. Maybe not even a single lifetime. There'd be a whole Jessica Jones period where everyone assumed the Purple Man didn't have any powers and there'd need to be some extraordinary measures to document the situation, and they'd have to call in psychologists to interview the victims, figure out some sort of way to deprogram them or at least document the alterations to their consciousness. Really, there'd probably be some sort of special government action to isolate that person. Black suits and helicopters, an off-the-books facility for isolation and study that'd make Guantanamo look like day care....

But eventually when all that was said and done, whatever legislation they came up with would fall under sex crime statutes. At least, that'd be the case for something like DoD where that's the way the power works. If you could cast a spell and get people to go rob a bank that'd probably be something else. Kidnapping maybe? Some coercion type situation? It might inspire it's own, separate legislation. The Mind Control and Magical Influence Act of 2019.
 

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Alright sorry, but I'm nipping this conversation in the bud. If you feel like making a thread on "laws regarding mind control" feel free to make one in general discussions, but this isn't the right place for it.
 

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It would definitely take a while for the laws to catch up. Years. Decades. Maybe not even a single lifetime. There'd be a whole Jessica Jones period where everyone assumed the Purple Man didn't have any powers and there'd need to be some extraordinary measures to document the situation, and they'd have to call in psychologists to interview the victims, figure out some sort of way to deprogram them or at least document the alterations to their consciousness. Really, there'd probably be some sort of special government action to isolate that person. Black suits and helicopters, an off-the-books facility for isolation and study that'd make Guantanamo look like day care....

But eventually when all that was said and done, whatever legislation they came up with would fall under sex crime statutes. At least, that'd be the case for something like DoD where that's the way the power works. If you could cast a spell and get people to go rob a bank that'd probably be something else. Kidnapping maybe? Some coercion type situation? It might inspire it's own, separate legislation. The Mind Control and Magical Influence Act of 2019.

Yeah I agree. But as far as the persons awareness gos, drugs would give the user the impression hey I have been drugged. While as the spell just gives the impression of OMG I am horny and I want this person. So I dont think the "victim" would be aware they have been raped unless they were aware of the spell, where as with drugs they would probably figure out they were slipped something the morning after.
 
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