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The thing I'll add is gender shouldnt matter when it comes to the tags. If this was the father instead of the mother saying it, I hope you would feel the same way. (Claire = mc mom, Vanessa = MC gf)
I mean, there are tags gender obviously would make a difference for, I'm sure I don't have to spell those out. But in this case, no, I don't see that it would.
 
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Hmm, well it certainly looks amazing, great quality renders. Both the mom and GF are gorgeous. Major props to the dev in that regard.

I did find myself skipping a lot of the dialogue though because it was pretty much all narration. Great for story telling but not so great in something like this. Thats my own personal opinion though. Don't get me wrong, when i play these types of games, story always comes first, then the art and then finally the porn part. My issue with it in this particular story is the fact that for example the mom asked the mc a question and then it was all just narration of his thoughts etc, no reply to which the mom had to ask again, yet again it was all narration and then she had to ask a third time. Now i don't know about anyone else but if i had to ask a question 3 times id just get pissed off and walk away, the end, roll credits. So for me it was far too much narration and not enough dialogue.

My next issue is the same thing i seen quite a few times already on here. The mom wanting to fuck the girlfriend. Ok so it isn't NTR because the mom specifically said that she wouldn't do it if the mc didn't want her too. However.....it depends on how you view NTR. I personally view it as what it pretty much is "A love interest having sexual relations with another character to make the protagonist, Player/reader jealous" so because of the "bet" (which was bloody stupid) the mc has basically gave the greenlight. He could have said no but he didnt so therefore it isn't NTR. Now, because its a kinetic novel, the player or in this case reader, does not get a choice in it so i suppose it could be considered NTR. Even though the mc all but agreed to it, the player didn't.
 
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I had no idea the direction this game took, I thought it would be more of an internal battle between choosing the girlfriend or the mother, but it was a plot twist that I didn't see coming and I don't know if I'll like this, although I have to say, the graphics They are phenomenal, and having played "The Blackout", I hope this turns out well for both the MC and all the other characters involved
 

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The mom wanting to fuck the girlfriend. Ok so it isn't NTR because the mom specifically said that she wouldn't do it if the mc didn't want her too.
In reality, she doesn't tell him that she won't do it, she tells him that she will try to forget about it and contain herself, but that he will have to introduce her to his girlfriend at some point, and that if she is horny at that moment, she won't promise him anything, so if she tells him that, I don't see how that would be respecting the Mc's decision. (It's like you have a friend who says he respects you and he would never do anything with your girlfriend, but in the next sentence he tells you that if he is too horny he doesn't promise you anything. Who would want to have someone like that around in the end?)
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Andarilho

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Not a bad start per se.
Beautiful models and graphics, 15 looped animations nicely posed and a fairly decent amount of content for a 278Mb first release.
That "I will fuck your girlfriend no matter what" convo and the passive MC is a big turn off imo and make me REALLY dislike Claire; and i'm NOT supposed to DISLIKE a MoLandylady/Friend character in a IncInteresting Story!
I think you could do better presenting the characters. I don't mind some porn logic here and there since Nymphomania and Satyriasis are serious mental disorders and idk how you intend to portrait this on your VN.

I wll keep my eyes on this one because i'm sensing some "reverse training" vibes that can provide some really interesting scenarios and your statement to not delve into NighTmaRe territory, but i need some more before considering support DD.

Good luck with your project AfterLust. A shame "The Blackout" is abandoned. :cry:
 
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lukinhartx360

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To be quite honest, I didn't like the direction of the game. After all, who is the protagonist? The mother or the son? There is no power of choice, the MC is completely powerless in front of the woman. Even with his girlfriend, who also seems to be a nymphomaniac. Nothing against it, depending on the context it's very good, but in this particular game it took away the MC's protagonism. I'll leave my question here: does a submission tag fit in this game? Because, as the story progresses, he will be completely at his mother's mercy.
The game was well built, with great graphics, beautiful characters, but I don't like the idea of a submissive protagonist, without any decision-making power. Man, it made me angry to see the guy cumming for her without any touch and she pretending to cum, worse, treating him with a little toy that she turns on and off whenever she wants.
Well, it's a matter of taste too. Everyone has their own and there are guys who like this more submissive, powerless style, but I don't like it.
 

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To be quite honest, I didn't like the direction of the game. After all, who is the protagonist? The mother or the son? There is no power of choice, the MC is completely powerless in front of the woman. Even with his girlfriend, who also seems to be a nymphomaniac. Nothing against it, depending on the context it's very good, but in this particular game it took away the MC's protagonism. I'll leave my question here: does a submission tag fit in this game? Because, as the story progresses, he will be completely at his mother's mercy.
The game was well built, with great graphics, beautiful characters, but I don't like the idea of a submissive protagonist, without any decision-making power. Man, it made me angry to see the guy cumming for her without any touch and she pretending to cum, worse, treating him with a little toy that she turns on and off whenever she wants.
Well, it's a matter of taste too. Everyone has their own and there are guys who like this more submissive, powerless style, but I don't like it.
but the MC is clueless as he is too naive so he needs the Mother to skill up in this area. Who knows he may get more choices later on once he gets educated enough to know what he likes?
 

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Without a doubt, the art is wonderful, I don't know if I'm a big fan of a Mom who wants to cuck her son with his girlfriend,but I will have to wait to see how the "game" progresses. Greetings dev
 

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Let's gooooo!!! Have fun, I poured my heart into this one. Can't wait to hear what you think!
If you allow me one critcism, it would be that the game is trying to portray the Mom as a loving mother who will respect her son boundaries and at the same time a woman who will pursue sex with the girlfriend no matter how the son feels about it. Those 2 seems to be antagonic.
Let me show you an example.
Here she says she will respect the son's choice and not do anything behind his back:
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But then she says she will not promise not doing it if you don't approve or that she will do it.
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So the narrative flip flops from thos 2 points of view and it doesn't help that the Kinetic Novel aspect makes the MC seems to be forced to accept what the mother wants, making him to appear as a doormat that will say yes to everything, even if he doesn't trully wants that.
I think the game would benefits more if the opinion of the Mom remained more constant, she will either do it with approval or not or she will respect the MC's decision.
A few things that would be good in my opinion is:
1- a way for the player to have more control on how to react to it
2- the mom understanding that this will have an impact on her son's relationship ( I know that it will be a good impact as the opening the MC seems happy about the outcome, but it seem thoughtless of the mom simply saying it will be only sex when the things she wants to do are the same things that changed her forever)
3- a better explanation on why the MC should accept that (how it will improve his relationship with the gf or are there any rewards for accepting it?)
 

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Well a lot of people don't consider lesbian NTR as NTR just because she is a female. So sometimes NTR is not labeled correctly.
It's not labeled by what a lot of people consider NTR or what I consider NTR (which since I don't self-insert in games would be next to nothing) it's labeled based off the rules of the site. If you have concerns with any game, submit a report. Cluttering threads with pointless debate isn't the way.
 

lukinhartx360

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but the MC is clueless as he is too naive so he needs the Mother to skill up in this area. Who knows he may get more choices later on once he gets educated enough to know what he likes?
I even understand the intention and premise of the game, but the question remains: How naive is he? Well, he is not a virgin. The MC doesn't seem like a naive virgin teenager who has never even seen a naked woman in front of him. Mainly to cum quickly and without any touching like that. He has a girlfriend who also seems to be a sex addict and from the game's introduction I don't think he's that naive in bed. He may not be a dominant predator, but being totally defenseless in the face of his mother's attitude is a bit of an exaggeration.
His being scared by her attitude is understandable, so he could have run, scolded his mother, fought with her, left dinner... Anyway, taken some action. But not.
The problem for me was the way she put him against the wall and made him make a forced decision, in total submission to her will. And the craziest thing of all is that he cums without her touching him, and even worse, that she fakes an orgasm and even says that it's easy to manipulate men: "You just have to know how to press the right buttons." Man, that might be true (lol), but at the very least I would throw her on the floor and fall in my mouth, licking and sucking her, it would make her regret having started something and not finishing it, she would awaken a primitive beast ( hahaha).
She was the one who gained prominence in this story, not the MC.
 

viper217

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I even understand the intention and premise of the game, but the question remains: How naive is he? Well, he is not a virgin. The MC doesn't seem like a naive virgin teenager who has never even seen a naked woman in front of him. Mainly to cum quickly and without any touching like that. He has a girlfriend who also seems to be a sex addict and from the game's introduction I don't think he's that naive in bed. He may not be a dominant predator, but being totally defenseless in the face of his mother's attitude is a bit of an exaggeration.
His being scared by her attitude is understandable, so he could have run, scolded his mother, fought with her, left dinner... Anyway, taken some action. But not.
The problem for me was the way she put him against the wall and made him make a forced decision, in total submission to her will. And the craziest thing of all is that he cums without her touching him, and even worse, that she fakes an orgasm and even says that it's easy to manipulate men: "You just have to know how to press the right buttons." Man, that might be true (lol), but at the very least I would throw her on the floor and fall in my mouth, licking and sucking her, it would make her regret having started something and not finishing it, she would awaken a primitive beast ( hahaha).
She was the one who gained prominence in this story, not the MC.
Spoiler I think the MC is just happy with his Gfriend to have great sex at Uni with her. He goes home tells his mum she needs to get back out there, there should be no taboo discussions between us etc. She then stumbles across his videos with GFriend it turns back on her nympho switch. She then takes up the offer of her Son to chat, she then boxes him into a corner with his own words and takes him on a journey where she bets she can bed his GFriend. The Niave MC thinks he has an ace in the hole because his GFriend says not interested in Lesbian action (Mum is comfortable that she can turn her to Team Pink). Now remember the son and the reader didn't know that the Mum was a nympho. We know she said she wouldn't allow "another man" into her bed. So on that premise she is making a play for him through the Girlfriend. It could go bad, he could be cucked and his Mom exerts dominance and uses her seduction experience to drive a wedge between him and his GFriend all the while offering a shoulder to cry on for the GFriend. Let's hope it doesn't go down that route.

As to the cumming in his pants and the fake mum orgasm, it is really a poorly executed plot contrivance to lock the MC into the bet to get the show on the road so to speak.
The MC is meant to be niave, because if he wasn't he would have called the Moms bluff and said you wanna sleep with my GF then I want to pump you first. But that is a too soon settlement of the unresolved tension point which is MC wants to sleep with Mom, but is too scared to go too fast too soon. So it will be interesting to see how the GFriend seduction is handled, could go down the route of a MC and Mum partnership to corrupt GFriend, could go down the MC gets asked questions and then selects Cuck NTR route or there are plenty of wave off moments that literally pull out of the bet. Just need to wait and watch, but an interesting premise, where the Mom is the predator :)
 
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