VN Ren'Py Abandoned Dual Family [Stream Extras] [Gumdrop Games]

[Deleted member 1150609]

you could have posted a screenshot from last year and we wouldn't know the difference. This guy abandoned this in 2018, you have to be extremely delusional to still think this is legit anymore. He is now even taking breaks from posting bullshit on Patreon, the scam taking minimum effort now. How unintelligent you have to be to not understand what's going on?

A few days ago several chads claimed that he probably broke down after adding the abandoned tag here. As I predicted, he is not going anywhere. This forum means nothing to him. Deal with it.
For your own sanity, I advise you to just forgot about this game. Once he releases an update (he probably will, sooner or later, because it will be profitable for him) you can go back to the discussion.

Considering he sends his shills here (read a few pages back), he totally cares.

Sounds like you are the one who needs to "deal with it", this has been abandoned since 2018. There won't be any release again because he will never be able to produce the 3k images he claims to have been rendering for years. He has done literally nothing: no work, no new assets, no new skills (he has long fallen behind what decent devs put out nowadays), etc.

See: https://f95zone.to/threads/dual-family-v0-98-ce-gumdrop-games.1870/page-467#post-2398851

 

[blackmagic616]

Considering he sends his shills here (read a few pages back), he totally cares.

The only shills are in your head.

There won't be any release again

This situation cannot last forever. It may take a year or two, but you can't pull on like that for 10 years or so.
Sooner or later, patrons will start to leave. You must be incredibly naive if you think that he will be just waiting until his patron counter drops to zero.
Even if he has to pay someone to do everything for him, it still pays off for him. There are many people who would update such a game for $1000 or $2000 per month.
I strongly believe that the update will be released before the number of patrons drops by half. He would have to be a total idiot to just sit and wait doing nothing. And I sincerely doubt that he would be one, since he could get so many patrons doing, well, image previews.

 

[Deleted member 1150609]

The only shills are in your head.

The shill was literally Abby from his Discord, the top shill for this scam.

You can keep waiting all you want bud, it's just denial. Patrons who left have moved on, unlike you. They won't ever come back to a half-assed "release" intended to keep the scam going, he has committed too hard to lying too much for far too long. In fact, such a "release" would open the eyes of many people still in denial, since they would finally realize he has been lying all along. The contrast between all the bullshit he has spewed for years and what he actually could show for it would be too big (similar dynamic to what happens with AAA games which have underwhelming releases after years of aggressive marketing). I suspect the scammer knows this, hence why there won't be a release again.

Eventually you will grow up and realize that your shitty porn game has been abandoned and you will be able to deal with reality.

 

[modo200]

man i cann't believe this guy has the nerve to come back and took about an update
are u fucking serious .
i finished my time in the army and he stall didn't release any update. lol

 

[blackmagic616]

The shill was literally Abby from his Discord, the top shill for this scam.

Was it or is it? Because I haven't seen guy with a such nickname, and even forum search says: "No results found."
Besides, do you have any proofs except your intuition, which sucks?
Because what you do now looks like summoning another ghost that has not existed for several years.

You can keep waiting all you want bud, it's just denial.

What makes you think I'm waiting for this game? I stopped playing it a long time ago when my save stopped working after the update (each choice led to an error).

Eventually you will grow up and realize that your shitty porn game has been abandoned and you will be able to deal with reality.

I wonder when you grow up and realize what wishful thinking is.
The guy always finds a way to catch new patrons and now this is about to change only because you want to? No, it doesn't work that way, kid.
The fact that you post something on this forum will not make the guy cry and abandon his lucrative business. He don't care about you. You don't have the slightest influence on what he does. Deal with it.

 

[Deleted member 1150609]

Was it or is it? Because I haven't seen guy with a such nickname, and even forum search says: "No results found."
Besides, do you have any proofs except your intuition, which sucks?
Because what you do now looks like summoning another ghost that has not existed for several years.

You are way too dumb if you can't even find the relevant chain of posts.

I wonder when you grow up and realize what wishful thinking is.
The guy always finds a way to catch new patrons and now this is about to change only because you want to? No, it doesn't work that way, kid.
The fact that you post something on this forum will not make the guy cry and abandon his lucrative business. He don't care about you. You don't have the slightest influence on what he does. Deal with it.

lmao, imagine writing such dumb crap and calling other people "kids".

"He doesn't care about you" . You sound like a bitchy gf. Are you sure you are not on his discord too?

Does this look like denial or shilling ?

What are you talking about?! The graphics quality is just perfect! I haven't seen a single game with nicer renders. Not even one! And the story is incredibly addictive, especially the mother-son relationship. You may complain about delays, but Patreon was on pause for last two months! He bought a new PC that was mentioned on his Patreon in Novemver, so hopeful next updates will come out a little bit faster, although there are still a lot of manual work.
Anyway, the whole second episode will have 1/8 more renders than the first one and should appear in this month or early February.

Technically speaking, it was updated 4 months ago (Sep 19, 2019).

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Besides, you are referring to the old version. 0.0.99 was released long time ago, and then it received some bugfixes.
What's more, the Last Christmas DLC (standalone) was released about 1 year ago (Jan 3, 2019).
Just saying. It's just a detail. In practice it doesn't change anything.

You are wrong. There was a small bugfix release published on Steam (Sep 19, 2019). Before then, 0.0.99 was published on Game Jolt (Apr 25, 2018), and extended edition with Nude Pinups was published a bit later (Aug 17, 2018). What's more, GD released a standalone DLC last year - Last Christmas (Jan 3, 2019).
But apart from that (bugfixes + nude pinups + DLC), there was no feature updates in the main game since early 2018.

As you can see, he's doing quite well.

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This tag has changed nothing. What's more, in the long run it can even help him. That's right. I believe that neither "On hold", nor "Abandoned" are suitable for this game. This game requires a special red tag that would describe this situation.

For now, everything F95 does works in his favor:
- Technically speaking, this game has not been abandoned. Someone visiting this site may think that the information is out of date, because GD still publishes news and talks about the game.
- I saw a few people here who suspected him of some ridiculous things, like money laundering. Combining this with the lack of the latest version on the site (0.98 != 0.99), someone may think that pirates are furious, because they can not get the latest version.
- It also doesn't help that a few people urged others to write mass negative reviews on Steam. Most of these people have been banned by Valve. This creates the image of envious haters.

There should be eye-catching information describing what exactly happened. No crap about the game being on hold, abandoned or the developer missed timeline.

You mght want to check graphtreon again bud.

 

[blackmagic616]

You are way too dumb if you can't even find the relevant chain of posts.

Or maybe there is simply no guy with the nickname you mentioned?

lmao, imagine writing such dumb crap and calling other people "kids".

Act like an adult man, then I'll treat you like that. The guy has his patrons wrapped around his little finger, but you're saying that suddenly he'll start acting like a complete idiot because you want to? It doesn't make any sense. He will manipulate people for as long as possible. When it stops working and the number of patrons decreases significantly, he will release an update. It's as obvious as the sun.

Anyway, there is no point in talking to you because you are fixed on your own vision.

"He doesn't care about you" . You sound like a bitchy ex. Are you sure you are not on his discord too?

I don't use Discord. I don't have an account there (sometimes I log in under a temporary nickname, but I don't speak) and I haven't even looked at the Gumdrop channel.

 

[blackmagic616]

Does this look like denial or shilling ?

What are you talking about?! The graphics quality is just perfect! I haven't seen a single game with nicer renders. Not even one! And the story is incredibly addictive, especially the mother-son relationship. You may complain about delays, but Patreon was on pause for last two months! He bought a new PC that was mentioned on his Patreon in Novemver, so hopeful next updates will come out a little bit faster, although there are still a lot of manual work.
Anyway, the whole second episode will have 1/8 more renders than the first one and should appear in this month or early February

It was about another game, moron! I was talking about Come Inside. GD has never paused his Patreon.

 

[Deleted member 1150609]

he will release an update. It's as obvious as the sun.

You will get over your mommy issues before your denial.

It was about another game, moron! I was talking about Come Inside. GD has never paused his Patreon.

You don't even know how to use a forum. That explains a lot .

 

[blackmagic616]

You will get over your mommy issues before your denial.

Can you stop taking sentences out of context?
When the number of patrons drops significantly, he will release an update.

My prediction is that he will lose patrons by April at the latest. In May we should see a slight growth (he should have again over $8,000 in mid 2020).
If his income falls below $3,500-$4,000, he will release the game (Part X, or maybe just the first part of Part X).

 

[Deleted member 1150609]

Can you stop taking sentences out of context?
When the number of patrons drops significantly, he will release an update.

My prediction is that he will lose patrons by April at the latest. In May we should see a slight growth (he should have again over 8,000 in mid 2020).
If the number of patrons falls below 3,500-4,000, he will release the game (Part X, or maybe just the first part of Part X).

He has done no work bud, he has nothing so he can't release anything: https://f95zone.to/threads/dual-family-v0-98-ce-gumdrop-games.1870/page-467#post-2398851 You have been fooled, you fell for a scam.

And he isn't even close to having 3.5k/4k patrons

Are you Joshua Tree's brother?

 

[blackmagic616]

He has done no work bud, he has nothing so he can't release anything.

How can you know that? If I'd have been in his shoes, I would be already working on part two, but I wouldn't publish anything until the number of patrons drops.

And he doesn't have nowhere near close to 4k patrons

4k dollars! USD!
Now it has over $7k. I said he will probably release the game before the number of patrons will fall by half. What do you not understand?!

Are you Joshua Tree's brother?

Are you Harry Dunne's brother?

 

[Deleted member 1150609]

How can you know that? If I'd have been in his shoes, I would be already working on part two, but I wouldn't publish anything until the number of patrons drops.

https://f95zone.to/threads/dual-family-v0-98-ce-gumdrop-games.1870/page-467#post-2398851

You don't even understand the difference between number of patrons and earnings, so it's not surprising that you are so easy to manipulate.

 

[ahuss]

https://f95zone.to/threads/dual-family-v0-98-ce-gumdrop-games.1870/page-467#post-2398851

You don't even understand the difference between number of patrons and earnings, so it's not surprising that you are so easy to manipulate.

LOL leave him alone he just can't face the truth, you know what they say about obsession, they deny all reason and logic haha

 

[fotogaik]

Gumdrop's patreon count dropped in February. It dropped before, but that was when he was hyping the next release. People realized he's not releasing anything and started dropping off again. He's either going to release something or let attrition dwindle his patron count. It really sounds like he's making a living off this scam, so if he wants to keep his livelihood, he needs to show any proof of his work.

The shill was literally Abby from his Discord, the top shill for this scam.

You can keep waiting all you want bud, it's just denial. Patrons who left have moved on, unlike you. They won't ever come back to a half-assed "release" intended to keep the scam going, he has committed too hard to lying too much for far too long.

I think you're giving his patrons too much credit. He can literally release anything and people will flock to it.

In fact, such a "release" would open the eyes of many people still in denial, since they would finally realize he has been lying all along. The contrast between all the bullshit he has spewed for years and what he actually could show for it would be too big (similar dynamic to what happens with AAA games which have underwhelming releases after years of aggressive marketing). I suspect the scammer knows this, hence why there won't be a release again.

I think you're making a flawed analogy here. Hype for AAA games is different. There are all kinds of people waiting for AAA titles and if they don't live up to the hype, a very significant proportion of buyers are dissatisfied, even if there is a happy minority in which people are totally satisfied with the game as is.
Remember Duke Nukem Forever? There are lots of people who loved the game.
In case of Dual Family, the only people now waiting for the game are those who will accept the worst scraps as long as the game is canon.

Eventually you will grow up and realize that your shitty porn game has been abandoned and you will be able to deal with reality.

I don't think anyone here expects otherwise and I think nobody is a supporter, so there's no point in saying it's "our" shitty porn game.

And I think you're giving other games and creators way too much credit. Graphics quality does not matter for Gumdrop's fans. I don't think they're interested in other games and they probably never played any newer and superior (or finished, for that matter) titles, or else they would have left GD a long time ago.

Conversely, that also means that Gumdrop is unable to attract new followers. Anyone who downloads the most recent public or pirated release to try it out will be aware that it's abandoned and graphics or the story will not engage any of them. Since gumdrop won't be upgrading the graphics or user experience, the only thing he has going for his game is the story -- and his patrons will accept his style as long as the story is canon and they feel they have influence over it (mind you, there's zero influence, the "game" is more like a kinetic novel in that regard).

The funniest thing is still the fact that he could have written the story and commissioned people to copy write the screenplay, write code and create CG and still have lots of money left over. In fact, he could be wrapping up Act III of Dual Family by now and could be announcing new projects and could probably have been no. 1 creator and could be raking in over 100 grand per month.

 

[openSquadw4]

This is stupid, why good games keep being abandoned

 

[· NILA ·]

Guys help me out. Let's end this scammer's career!
Use the link to submit a report to the patreon. If we will not do something, this dev will definitely continue fooling people!

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[blackmagic616]

Guys help me out. Let's end this scammer's career!
Use the link to submit a report to the patreon. If we will not do something, this dev will definitely continue fooling people!

Do you know there is a greater chance that you will be banned than his account will be suspended? Patreon makes it clear: your dissatisfaction is not a reason for complaint.
We already had people here who gave him negative reviews on Steam. Guess what happened. Yes, they have been banned.
If you want, run your own crusade, but don't expose others, at least without warning them of potential consequences.
Ideally, this thread should be suspended until something actually appears. Of course, information about the current situation would be appreciated (the abandon tag says literally nothing), but I have already mentioned it in my another comment.

 

[Watcher X]

Guys help me out. Let's end this scammer's career!
Use the link to submit a report to the patreon. If we will not do something, this dev will definitely continue fooling people!

As much as GD's scam disgusts me, he isn't breaking any laws or Patreon terms of service. It's up to the remaining fools who still pay this fraudster every month to finally wake up and cancel their subscriptions.

 

[· NILA ·]

Do you know there is a greater chance that you will be banned than his account will be suspended? Patreon makes it clear: your dissatisfaction is not a reason for complaint.
We already had people here who gave him negative reviews on Steam. Guess what happened. Yes, they have been banned.
If you want, run your own crusade, but don't expose others, at least without warning them of potential consequences.
Ideally, this thread should be suspended until something actually appears. Of course, information about the current situation would be appreciated (the abandon tag says literally nothing), but I have already mentioned it in my another comment.

Worth a shot! If that means stopping this scumbag from fooling incoming patreons and people. And one more thing, this is not dissatisfaction talking, it's compassion towards the others and dishonesty towards your patreons. And before you say anything I did not lend a single cent to this guy. Yeah, we could definitely let the fooled patreons continue fooling themselves but what good does it yield? Definitely it's none of my business or your business if these people chose to be fooled, but are we really okay about the fact that this scammer is continuing something when we know we can do atleast a simple move to stop this once and for all!?

It's like you're all here and all, blabbering about this scum's strategic nonsense, but in reality, it does not help at all. The truth is his crusade will continue fooling other people and new patreons because instead of doing something people are ranting without doing nothing. No wonder people come back here just to complain again and again!