VN Ren'Py Dual Family [v1.22.1ce] [Gumdrop Games]

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I've been away from this game for a very long time (1.5 yrs or so), and just updated and played through the most recent stuff. I wanted to come in here and compliment the writing, as it is some of the best of any h-game I've ever played, and............

lol
Sure, if you are still stuck in your angsty teen phase and don't ever read anything more sophisticated than avengers comics, then this might come off as "good writing". But by any objective standard it isn't, it's the typical nonsense that you would expect from a pretentious high school senior. Read my review to see the obvious issues with the writing.

A good question to ask yourself is: "if I had to explain this story to another person, what would you tell him/her?". If you can't come up with anything remotely cohesive or interesting, then it's hardly a good story. In this case the answer would be "angsty teen wants to fuck his depressed family, and random events like rapes happen without explanation". Even the game itself admits that in the very first screen (see my review). There is no structure or plot whatsoever here. Hence I can't believe how many people still insist on calling this mess "good writing". But then you realize there are still people here defending a scam, and it all makes more sense.

But the general consensus from the "lower" pledgers is they the highlighted part is probably what's going on.
Is there any proof for that at this stage, no ... Hell, even some other developers that i am in contact with say that there is no chance in hell that Gumdrop is able to maintain this financial support without doing some "shady" shit.
The fact that he set up a supposed alternative payment system which we now know was created while having virtually no idea about what to do in the future (he went on to do nothing for a year and counting) is indeed suspicious.
 
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Deepwounds

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Well his donations dropped to 6 600 with 662 donators, its Getting Down faster than before. Just Wonder what He has been doing since chapter IX. Such a waste of huge potential.
 

FeralChild

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Well his donations dropped to 6 600 with 662 donators, its Getting Down faster than before. Just Wonder what He has been doing since chapter IX. Such a waste of huge potential.
Thing is he started migrating patrons to his website subscription. So it's not like he lost all of it. afaik he's not transparent with his numbers on his website so he could actually be making more money now than before.
 

FeralChild

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I got banned to gumdrop discord channel today. That dude scamming people left and right. In his discord channel u cant talk shit to him. His blind followers blocks negatives things that u will say. Dude is a con artist.
If someone went into your house and started talking shit to you. You're not gonna kick him out?
Like c'mon lol. It's his discord, it's not a public area
 

MykeRosy

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If someone went into your house and started talking shit to you. You're not gonna kick him out?
Like c'mon lol. It's his discord, it's not a public area
Actually its public and he posted it on his website. Hes a con man and im just stating facts to his patrons and ofc they're like zombie who follow that dude whatever or whenever he likes to release the updates and meanwhile hes counting the money he collected for doing... NOTHING.
 

Faceless0ne

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Actually its public and he posted it on his website. Hes a con man and im just stating facts to his patrons and ofc they're like zombie who follow that dude whatever or whenever he likes to release the updates and meanwhile hes counting the money he collected for doing... NOTHING.
What is happening here is quite the analogy to how civilisation is going down the drain. I mean, I'm just here to wait for the announcement that the "game" is going Epic Store exclusive. Yes, Tod Swiney said they'll never release porn games but looking at the fact that this dude made at this point what, 100.000-120.000$ by doing nothing and still has the same payerbase? Sounds like a deal to me.
 

MykeRosy

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That's not how it works. I can host an open house party, anyone invited. But I can still kick who ever I want the fuck out for any reason I want. Because guess what. It's MY house. Just like it's HIS discord.
Also the rest of your post is just pure salt.
How can u defend a guy scamming people's money for 1 and half years without doing anything?
 

FeralChild

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How can u defend a guy scamming people's money for 1 and half years without doing anything?
If he can make $10k a month without delivering, then more power to him.
It literally doesn't affect me one bit if he make $25k a month or if he made $25. Maybe one day he'll finish the game, maybe he won't. But people giving him money isn't going to make my life a net loss.
I stopped giving him money after 3 months, and that's on me. Everyone else still giving him money, that's their prerogative.
There's plenty of shit in life to get pissed about. Some dude taking money from people willingly giving it to him isn't one of them.
If you want to direct your anger, start at rent to own, cash advance, and payday loan schemes. Those are truly predatory.
 

Vimotang

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If he can make $10k a month without delivering, then more power to him.
It literally doesn't affect me one bit if he make $25k a month or if he made $25. Maybe one day he'll finish the game, maybe he won't. But people giving him money isn't going to make my life a net loss.
I stopped giving him money after 3 months, and that's on me. Everyone else still giving him money, that's their prerogative.
There's plenty of shit in life to get pissed about. Some dude taking money from people willingly giving it to him isn't one of them.
If you want to direct your anger, start at rent to own, cash advance, and payday loan schemes. Those are truly predatory.
Ladies and gentlemen we got the holier-than-thou person of the day here. Self-righteousness is strong with this one
 
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If he can make $10k a month without delivering, then more power to him.
It literally doesn't affect me one bit if he make $25k a month or if he made $25. Maybe one day he'll finish the game, maybe he won't. But people giving him money isn't going to make my life a net loss.
I stopped giving him money after 3 months, and that's on me. Everyone else still giving him money, that's their prerogative.
There's plenty of shit in life to get pissed about. Some dude taking money from people willingly giving it to him isn't one of them.
If you want to direct your anger, start at rent to own, cash advance, and payday loan schemes. Those are truly predatory.
Yes there are bigger scumbags and scammers out there, but this is a porn game forum where we talk about porn games, not payday loan schemes. And this is a thread for a game made by a scumbag scammer so obviously when no content is being released people will talk how the creator is a scumbag scammer. I don't get the point of posts like these, what else do you expect, or want, people to talk about here given the circumstances?
 

lostraven

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Yes there are bigger scumbags and scammers out there, but this is a porn game forum where we talk about porn games, not payday loan schemes. And this is a thread for a game made by a scumbag scammer so obviously when no content is being released people will talk how the creator is a scumbag scammer. I don't get the point of posts like these, what else do you expect, or want, people to talk about here given the circumstances?
Obviously this thread needs to devote more time to discussing Kenyan Warlords and the ever continuing Crisis in the Middle-East, truly that's what we are all here for.

While we're at it, how's Palestine and Israel doing these days? Or the war on drugs?

#Morally-inspired
#wow,suchgoodpersonIam
 
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Just an example of how easy it is for con artists to be successful in niche markets, where people are so desperate that they prefer believing in convoluted fantasies and explanations, rather than accepting reality:

(link to patreon, zero mention of the game being dead)

(check comments)

This dude has been quite aggressive with marketing. He has vanished from virtually all the sites where he has advertised it, starting shortly after he stopped doing anything.

Yet more evidence that this game has been abandoned for a long time. Whatever he puts together in the next few months (if he ever does that to begin with), I predict it will end up waking up many of these dormant patrons to the reality they have been trying to avoid for a year. I suggest current patrons read about the sunk cost fallacy:



Money is running out. If he releases anything it will end up hurting his credibility even more, so chances are he will keep stalling for as long as he can (possibly by releasing "scene demos" or some other bait put together in a few weeks). I predict the con will be over by the end of the year, with release (put together in a few months) or not.
 
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