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Bagger288

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Can you give me more detail for the dance studio - what formatting error exactly? This will help me figure out the problem quicker.
I didn't write it down, but I think I did a dozen dances, only got one levelup, and the stats page said manipulation: [manip.level +9] or something like that. So it might be formatting, or it might be a type error somewhere.
 

Rosen King

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As for the stamina training, indeed, you will not be able to do enough cardio training to increase your stamina during this update. That is by design, as we don't want the player to swim in stamina points after only an hour or two of gameplay. I'm open to tweeking it by update 2 or 3 if I see the game would be more fun with more stamina.
The thing you have to remember is that the stamina invested into training the ability sets you behind, and you're not seeing a return on your investment until you "pay it back". It's possible to spend, what, 40 stamina training cardio in the current update? And still no upgrade. Even if the upgrade was at 40 stamina, it would then take 40 days before you "paid it back", meaning you're not seeing a return on that investment until halfway through the third month. And you're probably continuing to invest more into the next level, meaning you're only increasing your "debt". Meanwhile, all the stuff you could have gotten instead are going unused.

It's true that things can inflate out of control if it's too easy, but I've also played games where the highest upgrade of "increase the gold dropped by enemies" never pays back its cost until long after you've gotten enough money to buy every other upgrade. It's extremely difficult to balance, and even if you do, it's frustrating for the player to try to figure out whether the dev of this particular game balanced it properly and if it's worth the investment. After putting a lot of thought into this issue, I came up with the following general rule: Never have a feature that allows you to "invest in your ability to invest" with the same currency as everything else. Make something else upgrade that feature. In classic arcade-style games where enemies drop gold for upgrades, I'd recommend having gold drops increase the more achievements you complete. In a game like this... I dunno. Maybe have stamina upgrade with each client whose therapy you complete, or when you have sex with a certain number of different women, or something?
 

Dubious Developers

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The thing you have to remember is that the stamina invested into training the ability sets you behind, and you're not seeing a return on your investment until you "pay it back". It's possible to spend, what, 40 stamina training cardio in the current update? And still no upgrade. Even if the upgrade was at 40 stamina, it would then take 40 days before you "paid it back", meaning you're not seeing a return on that investment until halfway through the third month. And you're probably continuing to invest more into the next level, meaning you're only increasing your "debt". Meanwhile, all the stuff you could have gotten instead are going unused.

It's true that things can inflate out of control if it's too easy, but I've also played games where the highest upgrade of "increase the gold dropped by enemies" never pays back its cost until long after you've gotten enough money to buy every other upgrade. It's extremely difficult to balance, and even if you do, it's frustrating for the player to try to figure out whether the dev of this particular game balanced it properly and if it's worth the investment. After putting a lot of thought into this issue, I came up with the following general rule: Never have a feature that allows you to "invest in your ability to invest" with the same currency as everything else. Make something else upgrade that feature. In classic arcade-style games where enemies drop gold for upgrades, I'd recommend having gold drops increase the more achievements you complete. In a game like this... I dunno. Maybe have stamina upgrade with each client whose therapy you complete, or when you have sex with a certain number of different women, or something?
Thank you for the feedback, RosenKing. You make very good points. The Stamina Training will be overhauled for the next update.
 

Dubious Developers

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HI everyone. Cassie here. In order to gather some early data the game and make sure our development plan fits our players's expectation, I have created a few polls on my DA.



Please take a moment to respond if you have played the game!

Back to working on the next update. Byeee!
 

Dubious Developers

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Is there an android version?My computer broke.
Hi there. I am unfortunately too new to this programming thing to create an android version. However, the whole game is nothing but a html file and a bunch of image. So theoretically, if you simply download the game, and make sure the html file is in the same folder as the img folder, it should work just like on any other platform. But I may be wrong.
 

Dubious Developers

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Hello everyone again!

Just a quick update: the game is still being worked on steadily, and 0.2. is still planned for a 2020 release. When in 2020 I cannot say.

As for the reason for this delay - Spi, the cowriter and artist on the game, left the project. Lucklily, I was able to find a new artist and co-writer to work with me on the project, but it does mean that a) things slowed down considerably and b) some aspects of the game have been modified to fit the sensibilities of the new team.

Than you for understanding, and here's hoping to have 0.2 soon,

Cassie
 

Dubious Developers

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Hi everyone!

After months of ups and down, v0.2. is finally complete.

Our generous playtesters are doing the final testing on it, and it should be releasedin the next few days. Thank you everyone for your patience, and stay tuned for v0.2!

Cassie
 
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Dubious Developers

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Any chance of a changelog while we wait?
Sure, I can do that!

  • 3 new scenes for Liz/Buffy - each path has its own version of each scene.
  • Around 16 new scenes for Alex, most of which have three variations based on the path you take.
  • More than 60 new renders, from Spi and Mysterious Stranger
  • 1 new location tied to both Alex's and Liz/Buffy's story
  • Various quality of life improvements: shortcut links to reduce extraneous clicking, color-coded choices to indicate which of your stats it relates to, typo fixes, removal of stamina training (stamina will now increase at specific moments in the storyline), removal of specific time frame and failure possibility when training Alex, etc.
  • Slightly modified game guide and opening page.
  • Various narrative adjustment, such as renaming some of Alex's stats or clearing up some bits that were unclear (more of this to come in v.0.3)

Unfortunately, due to a number of behind the scene changes, you will have to start again from the beginning. Sorry about that. But I hope you'll like it anyway!
 

konabwo

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havenot played ..but why not to use RP instead? could be faster...and if it is trainer - opens opportunity for community packs (vids of some other gials)
 

Dubious Developers

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havenot played ..but why not to use RP instead? could be faster...and if it is trainer - opens opportunity for community packs (vids of some other gials)
Because I've never programmed before, and Twine/SugarCube was the easiest software to start with by far. As for community packs - since this game uses custom-made 3DCG renders, not real porn pictures, I don't know why you'd want to replace the pictures? Or maybe I'm misreading what you mean.
 

konabwo

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Because I've never programmed before - same here :] . but i thought renpy is easier than cube/twine.

with vids/gifs ofc. (it is very uncommon for RP games to use just pics)
well my comments are driven by my desires to play yet another RP sandbox (lifesim,datesim,sim-trainer etc)

i assume here is somewhat reversed situation of common approach ( i know how to code abit, lete me make some game and put RP in order not to spend time on renders) like were u sitting on some renders u wanted to utilize?
 
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