(Ah, well, certainly all of my kinks have to do with power play and control, no doubts there. All of my fetishes fall under the umbrella of me taking power over another, through one method or another. And indeed, a firm understanding that not only is this not real life, but SHOULDN'T be ever attempted to be made into real life, is necessary! It's always excellent when people are able to separate their fantasies from reality. The few who can't... concern me... to put it mildly. Ah! And I agree with primal to, or at least deeply ingrained. Goodness knows I didn't choose to have fetishes that wider society typically won't get and 'frowns upon'.)
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I'll have a look into this, but I've never used an Android device before so can't promise anything!
@booom313 tinkers with RenPy games and ports them to Android, hopefully he can give a hand if needed.
Is there a guide or Some sort of walkthrough for this game i cant seem to get through the first test subject without failing i might just be completely incompetent but i am having a hard time with this one
Starving her or just not completing on time? If starving, just always feed her the biggest meals you can. If you're not progressing fast enough, just pull back anything she refuses to the previous step. You have a great deal more time than you need, so there's no reason to push her at all.
Also, don't forget to talk to the other scientist every now and then, as you can get clothes for the first subject, rather than just makeup.
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Having recently played, and enjoyed, the excellent Dreams Of Desire I began to look into games with a mind control theme (always good to discover a new kink to enjoy!) and discovered Due Process in it's first release. A simple, straight forward, well realised mind control game. I loved it!
The character models for Catherine, especially, and Karen (though I'm a sucker for girls in glasses anyway) were both sexy and quite distinctive (I really like the way Catherine's hair splays outwards at the bottom), the latter being difficult to achieve with so many games out there using similar assets. The only downside was the lack of variation in facial expressions (though in Karen's case that may be deliberate). Catherine I found warm and instantly likeable, her personality adroitly painted by her quirky sense of humour.
The moment when Catherine admits she had similar feelings as MC on meeting, a connection where they could have been friends, gave me a genuine pang of bitterweet remorse.
One thing that I really liked about Due Process was that the sex scene was entirely optional (many players, myself included, don't enjoy being forced into scenes with characters they dislike - see later). Obviously I immediately went for the sex option, but it is always nice to have the choice.
Another big plus was the ability to pick what the enslaved characters called MC (I've only seen this implemented once before, and it adds a really nice touch of immersion to a game, not to mention an added sexiness, depending on what you pick).
Personally, I didn't find the game grindy at all because the stat meter pretty much told you exactly how much progress you were making, and there were lots of nice variant pictures at each stage, depending on the girls' state of arousal and type of clothing (my favourite was the second subject masturbating in the Skimpy Dress, because you got to see her breasts)!
The hunger mechanic, whilst well rationalised as a motivation/conditioning tool, was not very realistic in terms of effect - nobody could starve themselves into unconsciousness whilst being fed a full english breakfast and a sandwich every day, but that was a minor quibble. Again I am a bit dubious about the credibility of a woman who HAD starved herself unconscious being able to escape the way she did in Ending 7 (Escape from New Lab). Talking of Endings I haven't unlocked Ending 6 yet, so I would be grateful for any hints - I only played as a male if that makes any difference.
I also thought it was a stroke of mini-genius to have MC use the new machine to alter his own thinking - this was enough justification for me to play such an unethical character, ignoring any further misgivings about the the downright evil nature of his misdeeds. So, thanks @kivik for easing my conscience.
Unfortunately, two things have very nearly spoiled Due Process for me. Most porn game players have particular likes and dislikes when it comes to the fetishes included, and the tags are there to help them find or avoid such fetishes. Another thing that aggravates a lot of players is coming across a fetish that they dislike (or hate in this case) in a game because it is not tagged, especially if it is unavoidable. I hesitate to use the N-word-that-spawns-a-hella-shitstorm but I genuinely believe that Due Process needs to be tagged as
Sorry to go on (though I always do), but I get very immersed in the games I play.
The character models for Catherine, especially, and Karen (though I'm a sucker for girls in glasses anyway) were both sexy and quite distinctive (I really like the way Catherine's hair splays outwards at the bottom), the latter being difficult to achieve with so many games out there using similar assets. The only downside was the lack of variation in facial expressions (though in Karen's case that may be deliberate). Catherine I found warm and instantly likeable, her personality adroitly painted by her quirky sense of humour.
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One thing that I really liked about Due Process was that the sex scene was entirely optional (many players, myself included, don't enjoy being forced into scenes with characters they dislike - see later). Obviously I immediately went for the sex option, but it is always nice to have the choice.
Another big plus was the ability to pick what the enslaved characters called MC (I've only seen this implemented once before, and it adds a really nice touch of immersion to a game, not to mention an added sexiness, depending on what you pick).
Personally, I didn't find the game grindy at all because the stat meter pretty much told you exactly how much progress you were making, and there were lots of nice variant pictures at each stage, depending on the girls' state of arousal and type of clothing (my favourite was the second subject masturbating in the Skimpy Dress, because you got to see her breasts)!
The hunger mechanic, whilst well rationalised as a motivation/conditioning tool, was not very realistic in terms of effect - nobody could starve themselves into unconsciousness whilst being fed a full english breakfast and a sandwich every day, but that was a minor quibble. Again I am a bit dubious about the credibility of a woman who HAD starved herself unconscious being able to escape the way she did in Ending 7 (Escape from New Lab). Talking of Endings I haven't unlocked Ending 6 yet, so I would be grateful for any hints - I only played as a male if that makes any difference.
I also thought it was a stroke of mini-genius to have MC use the new machine to alter his own thinking - this was enough justification for me to play such an unethical character, ignoring any further misgivings about the the downright evil nature of his misdeeds. So, thanks @kivik for easing my conscience.
Unfortunately, two things have very nearly spoiled Due Process for me. Most porn game players have particular likes and dislikes when it comes to the fetishes included, and the tags are there to help them find or avoid such fetishes. Another thing that aggravates a lot of players is coming across a fetish that they dislike (or hate in this case) in a game because it is not tagged, especially if it is unavoidable. I hesitate to use the N-word-that-spawns-a-hella-shitstorm but I genuinely believe that Due Process needs to be tagged as
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Sorry to go on (though I always do), but I get very immersed in the games I play.
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Wow! Thanks for the in depth reply @Andrew Rider! I really appreciate both the positive and negative.
You and @Nevermourned have definitely convinced me that I need to tweak the writing for the closing of chapter 2 - probably by creating branches.
Once again, I really appreciate such insightful feedback, and I'm really happy to hear the parts you enjoy as well.
The current release's focus is redoing all the images to future proof the game's file size a bit, so the story may not progress as quickly, and I haven't had a lot of time to write this month. I hope I can fix the writing so it doesn't do, like you said, the 180 at the end!
You and @Nevermourned have definitely convinced me that I need to tweak the writing for the closing of chapter 2 - probably by creating branches.
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Once again, I really appreciate such insightful feedback, and I'm really happy to hear the parts you enjoy as well.
The current release's focus is redoing all the images to future proof the game's file size a bit, so the story may not progress as quickly, and I haven't had a lot of time to write this month. I hope I can fix the writing so it doesn't do, like you said, the 180 at the end!
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Áh, okay thanks, good to know. Then I'll keep an eye on this one and see what'll get added.
Yeah that's a good point and I'd say it does explain my preference for more direct Mind Control/Hypnosis stuff, but yeah my kinks are also completely limited to fiction since even just something simple like big boobs are less attractive when they're depicted IRL.
I actually had a conversation about these things not long ago and my personal take on them is that the human brain can tell the difference between fiction and reality and since reality is STILL better in the end fiction has to be cranked up a lot to keep up with it. Kinda like how everything in entertainment has to be "perfect" or at least never show their flaws like how in movies people are always wearing heavily makeup or deliberately shown from preferable angles to look better.
Also let's not forget about the whole becoming desensitized thing where if you get used to or bored of something you need to crank it up again for your brain to be entertained. It's kinda easier to reach that point with limitless fiction then IRL.
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Hello @kivik, it's always good to meet a developer willing to take input into their game from a fan (especially a wavering fan). However, my previous post only represents my own opinion on the game. Having read many threads where this topic has come up, I would point out that the advice given to new game developers, by far more experienced gamers than myself is to formulate a clear creative vision of where you want to take your game, and stick to it. They say that games trying to pander to what the fans want are often those that end up being abandoned, as the creator loses faith in their project. Having said that, I do believe posts such as mine, and @Nevermourned's can be valuable to point out aspects of a game that may not have occurred to the game developer, or help in areas where the dev is undecided on how to proceed.
And just to be clear, I enjoyed most of the game (to me episode 1 was a perfect encapsulation of what I hoped for from a mind control game) it's just that the two parts I didn't enjoy I really, really hated,
Anyway, thanks for your consideration.
And just to be clear, I enjoyed most of the game (to me episode 1 was a perfect encapsulation of what I hoped for from a mind control game) it's just that the two parts I didn't enjoy I really, really hated,
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That's a really interesting take on it that I hadn't considered!
For me fantasy / fiction gets to explore stuff that isn't possible, but more importantly I think our ability to empathise / imagine being in situations we haven't personally experienced can allow us to experience certain thrills not possible in real life. For me that would be the squick stories that Tabico and similar artists write about - the mixture of horror and abandonment of humanity, perhaps it's the primal part of me getting a kick out of it.
The human brain is so weird and wonderful!
Yeah this is one thing that I wish wasn't the case, but then I guess my libido will eventually go down as I near my middle ages so that I don't hit the point of impossibility to get a kick out of stuff. I know studies have shown that porn genuinely affects our sex drives in a negative way, but I just can't seem to stop!Also let's not forget about the whole becoming desensitized thing where if you get used to or bored of something you need to crank it up again for your brain to be entertained. It's kinda easier to reach that point with limitless fiction then IRL.
Thanks @Andrew Rider! Hopefully I don't fall into the pandering category - I've disagreed with a lot of suggestions and gave my reasoning in the past, including suggestions that are echoed by multiple players that I totally understand - namely allowing a free meal option with no task attached - because I think it defeats the narrative and incentive from the subjects' point of view to fall prey to the process (you either perform, or you starve, it's the fundamental driving force of their experience). However, as you said, your point may be more valid than others - and I absolutely feel it's the case and it fits into the narrative. If anything my rushed writing was the problem in the first place!
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Thanks again for your input, and I hope I'll be able to keep you interested in the game if only for the self reason to get such quality feedback
But that's obviously absolutely not an obligation!(Okay, in all this entire back and forth, I see a lot of interesting things. However, about a part you've spoilered, I just feel the need to say this, and I'll spoiler so others can't be spoiled.)That's a really interesting take on it that I hadn't considered!
For me fantasy / fiction gets to explore stuff that isn't possible, but more importantly I think our ability to empathise / imagine being in situations we haven't personally experienced can allow us to experience certain thrills not possible in real life. For me that would be the squick stories that Tabico and similar artists write about - the mixture of horror and abandonment of humanity, perhaps it's the primal part of me getting a kick out of it.
The human brain is so weird and wonderful!
Yeah this is one thing that I wish wasn't the case, but then I guess my libido will eventually go down as I near my middle ages so that I don't hit the point of impossibility to get a kick out of stuff. I know studies have shown that porn genuinely affects our sex drives in a negative way, but I just can't seem to stop!
Thanks @Andrew Rider! Hopefully I don't fall into the pandering category - I've disagreed with a lot of suggestions and gave my reasoning in the past, including suggestions that are echoed by multiple players that I totally understand - namely allowing a free meal option with no task attached - because I think it defeats the narrative and incentive from the subjects' point of view to fall prey to the process (you either perform, or you starve, it's the fundamental driving force of their experience). However, as you said, your point may be more valid than others - and I absolutely feel it's the case and it fits into the narrative. If anything my rushed writing was the problem in the first place!
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(Thanks again for your input, and I hope I'll be able to keep you interested in the game if only for the self reason to get such quality feedback
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Is the only outcome at the end of the experiment failure? I had Catherine up to the body suit with 90% programming and at zero modesty and resistance and got that ending.
Hello! I'm very happy that I'm the first reviewer
Would it be okay to post here some cheats that I have discovered?
Would it be okay to post here some cheats that I have discovered?
All or nothing, I thought that might be the case. I'll try to get her resistance down quicker to get her programming started earlier, then.