OmegaUltima

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So Friday is today, and there is no update yet!
geez, be patient; it's not as if there was a guarantee that the update would drop on the dot as the date changed over at 12:00 AM; we've got the whole of Friday to go before you can accurately say it's even slightly 'late' (and complaining about being a day late is rather childish in itself, by the by)

TL;DR: Hold yer dang horses! :p
 

Chev454

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Apr 16, 2018
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I'm really interested in this game, but can only play on my phone. I'm thinking of trying to convert to Android, but I'm not sure where to start with learning how. Does anyone have any advice?
 

kiteares

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Nov 15, 2017
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This is a little gem of a game surprising it doesn't have more attention.
Now with the smaller size (73Mb), there's no excuse not to try.
 
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cavaemon

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i like the looks of this game :) I am curious but... is there impreg/preg planned or ingame already? idk with the tags I figure those might be with it but given with slavematrix I played awhile ago I am hoping its way better in terms of implementation of impregnating the slaves.
 

kivik

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May 9, 2018
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anyone with a new save at the beginning of the new content ? Dev is not able to deliver it :(
Sorry but the development's not really linear - I've added new content with early slaves. For the next public release, I'm making the skip day available much earlier on so that it's much easier to skip the early subjects. However, I'm definitely going to continue adding new content to existing subjects because I'm refining and adding new training mechanics in the coming releases!

i like the looks of this game :) I am curious but... is there impreg/preg planned or ingame already? idk with the tags I figure those might be with it but given with slavematrix I played awhile ago I am hoping its way better in terms of implementation of impregnating the slaves.
I haven't considered it, so if there's an interest in pregnancy fetish I'm not oppose to developing something. However as I'm not familiar with the fetish, I'd probably need some input to what type of stuff you guys are looking for? I'll have to browse the store to see if there're pregnancy morphs as well.

Mmmm... Bad Dev!
Sowwy!

Just so we're on the same page... old saves are no go?
Unfortunately no - as I'm still adding new mechanics and content that means old saves won't work anymore. Some iterative updates (for the $10 and $5 patrons) however will more likely have compatible saves in the smaller updates.
 

kivik

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May 9, 2018
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I'm really interested in this game, but can only play on my phone. I'm thinking of trying to convert to Android, but I'm not sure where to start with learning how. Does anyone have any advice?
I started looking at this (android build) a few weeks ago, but I hadn't had a chance to experiment with this yet. I think I saw that a future version of Renpy will have an inbuilt Android compiler - unless I was mistaken. So I'm waiting a bit before investigating again as I want to focus my time on development atm!

That said, I don't know how well my game will work on phones - I try to keep the buttons large, but I suspect some of the text will be too small to read and some UI elements struggle on a small screen. So I think the best shot may be an Android tablet! My focus will definitely be on the desktop version, but I may release the GUI scripts for someone else to optimise for mobile. Please don't hold me to it though, it's just the best approach I can think of right now.
 

Chev454

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don't hold me to it though, it's just the best approach I can think of right now.
Thanks for the response. I'll wait with great anticipation for a forthcoming port. At the same time, I'll look into the process myself. Hope to play your game soon!
 

ToG

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Getting a warning from firefox when I try to download the coka version that it contains a virus?
 

bsjfan69

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This game seems right up my alley so I tried it and here's my feedback. First of all there's a lot of stuff that either serves no purpose or isn't clearly explained. Like why wouldn't I give her the most filling food at all times? What purpose does fitness serve? Need more information, even if to say that it serves no purpose. On a separate and probably the most important note, the training of each girl goes by really fast and is not very satisfying. Maybe it's because all sessions are almost exactly the same and there's nothing to read so it's just spamming the fast forward button. The core concept of you not talking to the girls while they go through the process is fundamentally bad because it means there's no feedback from them which means the corruption is not very rewarding. The fact that there's time limits also sucks. I hope you don't my opinions the wrong way, I want the game to succeed as much as you do. Cheers
 
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kivik

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This game seems right up my alley so I tried it and here's my feedback. First of all there's a lot of stuff that either serves no purpose or isn't clearly explained. Like why wouldn't I give her the most filling food at all times? What purpose does fitness serve? Need more information, even if to say that it serves no purpose. On a separate and probably the most important note, the training of each girl goes by really fast and is not very satisfying. Maybe it's because all sessions are almost exactly the same and there's nothing to read so it's just spamming the fast forward button. The core concept of you not talking to the girls while they go through the process is fundamentally bad because it means there's no feedback from them which means the corruption is not very rewarding. The fact that there's time limits also sucks. I hope you don't my opinions the wrong way, I want the game to succeed as much as you do. Cheers
Hey thanks for that feedback! Totally welcome them and I generally see feedback as positive things. I really agree with several of your points, but I'll break everything down a bit:

Food will cost money in the future, so it'll become a balancing at at some point. Unfortunately implementing finances will be an all or nothing thing, so I need to do a bit more before including it. However the game wouldn't work without the food at all so I decided to leave them in!

Fitness will serve a purpose once I've developed a few more linked mechanics: slave stats and base management - where a subject's end stats will have an influence on your progress.

I'm not sure how to present those information without cluttering the UI atm, so I chose not to say anything yet, but maybe I'll add a notification pop up in a future version?


Regarding training: I absolutely agree with this - I'd even say I'm currently a bit disappointed when I look at it. However it's also the area that's being constantly looked at and refined as a result (which is why save games won't work between versions!). One of my August milestones is to develop the hypnosis mechanics so that it requires more input / be more interactive. Unfortunately it does mean new content isn't added at the end.

I have to admit I didn't start off with a strong game design, I just have the idea that this is the type of game I want to play, and I'm slowly fleshing out the details after the broad strokes. Hopefully when all the details are in for the training of subjects, it'll feel more enjoyable and satisfying.

I'm also updating the feedback system to better show the progressive corruption / enslavement of subjects. I was hoping to have time to do it this week but it's being pushed to next week (for my patrons) currently. Hopefully with the hypnosis mechanics, new feedbacks and more leisure activities, the process will be more enjoyable.

For the record, at some point I'll be working on a soft time-limit on subject training duration, so you can actually stretch beyond the 30 days - with potential consequences.

Also, I'll also be working on slave training as well to further change the personalities of the slaves. Right now, the programming instills loyalty to the player, but not the morality of the slaves - so they'll do things that they feel harm no others. The reason I planned this in was exactly because of the problem of the time limit - I didn't want time limit to ruin the enjoyment of slow corruption, so it's kind of like a phase one mind control process before phase two when you really mould your slaves into the way you want.


Hopefully this gives some insight into what the future game will look like. However please bear in mind development will be slow as I'm not particularly experienced and I'm still working a job on top! Once my Patreon reaches certain goals, I'd be able to go full-time and get a bit more full steam ahead! :)
 

kiteares

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Getting a warning from firefox when I try to download the coka version that it contains a virus?
From Firefox or from an AV add on? McAfee snuck a addon onto my FF and was touchy as hell and loved to throw up false positives.
Either way, I got it from Zippy without issue.

Food will cost money in the future, so it'll become a balancing at at some point.
I didn't read it this time round, you know being lazy, but in the past I read that you could use some deprevation as a tool during the process. Which is true ONCE during one of the girl's training.

For the record, at some point I'll be working on a soft time-limit on subject training duration, so you can actually stretch beyond the 30 days - with potential consequences.
Would it be possible to put early finish on the training also? I finished Anna with about 10 days to go and Catherine with at least a few. Or will that be where other interactions and enhancements will come in? I was originally thinking that would be what the pod was for.

This update was one of the best so far, thanks.
 

kivik

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May 9, 2018
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From Firefox or from an AV add on? McAfee snuck a addon onto my I didn't read it this time round, you know being lazy, but in the past I read that you could use some deprevation as a tool during the process. Which is true ONCE during one of the girl's training.
Yep, that's true in the case of one of the subjects that has no time limits.

Would it be possible to put early finish on the training also? I finished Anna with about 10 days to go and Catherine with at least a few. Or will that be where other interactions and enhancements will come in? I was originally thinking that would be what the pod was for.
I need to have a think about this. For now I'm sticking to 30 days because I'm still actively adding content to the training process - but once the subject training part of the game's more concrete, I can reassess whether it's worth allowing the training to end early.

From a narrative point of view it'd just mean we keep your new slave at the facility for a few more days (so you need to provide living space for them). From a mechanics point of view, early finish just requires an additional observer to see whether the programming is complete so it's totally doable.

This update was one of the best so far, thanks.
Aww thank you!
 
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Uzhirian

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Nice update. I agree with a lot of what bsjfan69 wrote, and based on your response am looking forward to seeing where you take this.
 
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