Unity Completed Dungeon capture with loved ones is dangerous! [Final] [Talon.company]

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Aquilez

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Here we go again with the netori vs netorare is NTR debate. Can we all just admit the term is used differently in Japan compared with what you THINK makes sense?
 

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Why is it stupid? NTR and netori evoke opposite feelings. People who hate NTR don't care when a character in a relationship cheats with them, nor do they care if they're the ones doing the cheating. The tag has a very specific purpose.
That way of thinking is a western thing. If you know even basic Japanese, you know that the word "netorare" doesn't specify who is feeling betrayed/cheated. Netorare simply means that someone is getting stolen and someone is getting cucked.

For example, there are netori games with "netorare" or "netorareru" in the title. Westerners just use the "NTR" abbreviation because it's easier to say, then everyone just collectively decided that NTR = netorare.

What's "stupid" here is the admins' refusal to add separate tags for netorare, netori and netorase.
because netori games are already tagged as cheating and netorase games are already tagged as swinging, which is effectively what they mean in english. the bigger question is why those two tags got translated but netorare didn't.
Wrong. Not every cheating is netori and not every netori involves someone being unfaithful. Also, not all swinging games are considered netorase and not every netorase involves swinging (by definition, the exchange of partners between couples).

Netori fans have no way of looking for netori games here, and that's a fact.
 

DoodlesTheBob

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Why is it stupid? NTR and netori evoke opposite feelings. People who hate NTR don't care when a character in a relationship cheats with them, nor do they care if they're the ones doing the cheating. The tag has a very specific purpose.
Pretty sure most people who're into Netori, or NTR, are the only ones to get hair splitting about it. The rest of us probably just don't like cheating in general. The intelligent thing would be a general "Cheating" tag and drop the Japanese specific distinctions just like the impregnation crowd is forced to share a tag with the pregnancy crowd.
 
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DoodlesTheBob

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What's "stupid" here is the admins' refusal to add separate tags for netorare, netori and netorase.

Wrong. Not every cheating is netori and not every netori involves someone being unfaithful. Also, not all swinging games are considered netorase and not every netorase involves swinging (by definition, the exchange of partners between couples).

Netori fans have no way of looking for netori games here, and that's a fact.
Well, that is the same boat people are in when they want to search for games where you can impregnate, versus games where you can screw pregnant women. Your fetish isn't the only fetish that fails to be properly delineated.

I'm going to guess the way the tag system is written is why it is this way. Each extra tag added must have some kind of back-end impact, especially if does something like check all 100 tags against 10,000 topic posts, for 500,000 calls. (ass pulling numbers there, but now you can see why there may be resistance to expanding tag numbers. Bandwidth and CPU cycles aren't free. Hosting companies tend to charge for both.)
 

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Why is it stupid? NTR and netori evoke opposite feelings. People who hate NTR don't care when a character in a relationship cheats with them, nor do they care if they're the ones doing the cheating. The tag has a very specific purpose.
Oh god, not this stupid conversation again. If someone is getting cucked, just add the tag and get on with your life. Jezus, why is everyone so freaking anal when it comes to NTR? It's just freaking porn.

It's ironic though, the tagging system is supposed to be there to help people find more of what they want, but you guys are complicating this tag to make it so people find less results. Netorare and Netori are essentially THE SAME ACT, it's just a matter of how the viewer feels about it, it's why so many people disagree on which is which.

Just leave the tag alone (as NTR can mean BOTH netorare or netori) so that people can actually freaking FIND it and decide for themselves how they feel about it, which takes like literally 5-10 minutes.
 
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Kapios223

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Someone told me that the NTR tag on F95 apparently only applies when the MC is the one getting cucked. The DLsite page has the "Woman's Viewpoint" tag, so maybe that's why this thread doesn't have the NTR tag.

Yes, it's stupid. I was informed of that rule when I suggested that netori games should have the NTR tag, so I'm gonna laugh my ass off if they add the NTR tag to this thread.
Look at the images, the character you control in battles is the male lead.
 

くもり空

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Look at the images, the character you control in battles is the male lead.
Playable character =/= main character.
In Eiyuu Senki you can choose to never use the MC in battle, but he's still the protagonist because you see everything through his perspective. This game, however, is almost entirely told through the female's perspective.

Don't get me wrong. The NTR tag is applicable here. The game is literally in the "Netorare (Cuckoldry)" section of DLsite and there's even a DLsite article that refers to it as NTR, so that's not the issue. The issue is the inconsistency of the NTR tag on F95 due to the weird tag rules and the admins' refusal to add proper tags. This reply illustrates my point very well:
Whoever told you that was full of shit. Out of 730 NTR games 181 have no male protagonist tag, which is about 25%.
And it's hilarious how the people who lectured me about tag rules had the nerve to say that other websites are the ones doing it wrong.

But whatever. I want to stop talking about this. It's off-topic and I don't think complaining here will change anything, or complaining anywhere for that matter.
 

Nightmar

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Mfw when people just argue about all those NTR tag while i'm keep wondering how tf can a unity game be mtled? 1649458741650.png
 

Remnil

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I can't open the options menu
I tyried esc and enter, and the fkeys I can't figure out how to open it
 
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Surav

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I can't open the options menu
I tyried esc and enter, and the fkeys I can't figure out how to open it
Probably because your mouse is no showing on screen like it's happening for a few of us, no one came with a solution yet.
 

Spellslinger

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It looks good but the MTL is pretty bad, on top of having to wait for the translation. Hope it'll get a better translation one day.
Also this is definitely Netorare.
 

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It's ironic though, the tagging system is supposed to be there to help people find more of what they want, but you guys are complicating this tag to make it so people find less results. Netorare and Netori are essentially THE SAME ACT, it's just a matter of how the viewer feels about it, it's why so many people disagree on which is which.
Slasher movies and action movies are basically the same thing. It's just a matter of the alignment of the protagonist.
 
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