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I like the AI art and I'm generally a fan of the themes, though I don't like going full female genitalia so I'll probably cut off here

Good job though I guess
 
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Devenril

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I like the AI art and I'm generally a fan of the themes, though I don't like going full female genitalia so I'll probably cut off here

Good job though I guess
Thanks! I'll try to make it optional. The main character finds himself in such circumstances, and I want the player to decide for himself how he will get out of them
 

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The title post seems like it's sending some pretty mixed messages. The overview paints the game as being all about freedom and choice whereas the developer notes say the game is about the "feminization, cuckolding and corruption of the main character", which sounds like the opposite. From reading the overview it sounds like you're trying to cater to the broadest possible range of tastes and that all those things might be included but would be optional. From your comments and the developer notes it sounds like player choice is always directed towards furthering the corruption and feminization of the MC (presumably through cuckolding amongst other things).

It might be worth clarifying that in the overview because people looking for that sort of game could easily gloss over this one and miss out, whereas people who are looking for the game it sounds like you're making in the overview will keep showing up and being disappointed that it isn't what they were expecting.

Also the release and update dates on this thread appear to be from the future because I'm pretty certain it's not July yet :unsure:
 

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Damn probably shouldn't have played this because it wasn't enough.

Suggestion: Be more clear with what the stats are. If you're going to represent them only with symbols in the ui, then have either mouse-over text on them or a stats explanation page. I've got a good idea of what they seem to be now from context but even then I'm not 100% if the first one is supposed to be Corruption, or something else.
 

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Just played through the prologue. The ai art is great. The game worked fine. At some point Cara was called Kara.

For a moment the setting reminded me of Crossdressing in Camelot .

At the end of the prologue, the mc seems to be transformed into a girl (or maybe he is hallucinating? (mushrooms?)). At first glance I saw no other paths to reach the end of current content, so this transformation seems to be unavoidable (kinetic). The mc then will start the actual game as a sexually rather inexperienced (heterosexual male) apprentice adventurer trapped in a female body, so almost like a female tomboy. That's a bad start for a sissification game unless you want to sissify a tomboy. You probably should drop the "sissification" and "gay" tags and instead add "female protagonist" (and "lesbian" in case that the now female mc finds a girlfriend.) I don't know how cucking should work if the mc is turned into female unless the mc has a (lesbian) interest in some of the girls and competes with the alpha cocks and looses.

In the OP you write :
" The game focuses on feminization, cuckolding and corruption of the main character. The main theme of the game is the slow and gradual physical and moral transformation from man to woman. In many situations, you as the player will be given a choice of options as to how the story will turn out. I will try to make some content like gay optional so that it doesn't distract someone who doesn't like it. "

The mc's current transformation was rather fast and not slow and gradual, so I guess it will be just temporary.

No offence intended :
General problem with many feminization/sissification games today is that the devs do not invest much time into writing and instead interprete "feminine" as : submissive, loves to suck cocks and get fucked, cumdump. So they focus mostly on the mc's sexual orientation and turn a heterosexual mc into a submissive gay one to enable specific MM content. (It would be easier for them if they would start directly with a submissive gay mc.)

"Feminization most commonly refers to:
- Feminization (biology), the hormonally induced development of female sexual characteristics
- Feminization (activity), a sexual or lifestyle practice where a person assumes a female role
- Feminization (sociology), a perceived societal shift of gender roles toward the characteristically "female"
(wikipedia)

So in a game feminization should develop independently in different areas :
- Sexual characteristics (body) : penis or vagina or both?, boobs?, can get pregnant?
- Clothing : male, female, neutral
- Acting : specific male/female/neutral moves, eg for female : walking on heels
- Social role, gender specific professions, RPG classes

Feminization should not affect :
- Sexual orientation : mc is interested in males or females or both?
- Dominance : dom (alpha) or sub (beta) or neutral?
- Strength : weak, neutral, strong?

(There is a saying : you cannot catch "gay"! So if the mc is supposed to become gay during the game, then he probably was already gay at start. I prefer games where the player can decide the mc's sexual orientation. If the mc in all paths comes out as gay, then it is rather a kinetic novel the dev wants to tell and then it would be fair if the dev would tell the players upfront : This is a coming out story I want to tell.)

So in theory the game could provide the freedom of different paths to turn the mc into everything in a range between :
- a weak submissive gay beta male in chastity and female clothes who loves to suck alpha cocks in the local tavern and
- a strong dominant female alpha warrior (amazon) with lesbian harem who travels the world and kicks some male ass..

I am not sure how far you get with just 3 attributes : corruption, feminization and cuckold?
Anyway. Good Luck with your project.
 
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Damn probably shouldn't have played this because it wasn't enough.

Suggestion: Be more clear with what the stats are. If you're going to represent them only with symbols in the ui, then have either mouse-over text on them or a stats explanation page. I've got a good idea of what they seem to be now from context but even then I'm not 100% if the first one is supposed to be Corruption, or something else.
It's mentioned on the first page of the game after start : corruption, feminization and cuckold
 
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AI better than real porn imo for these types of games- as it lets you stay way more consistent with character looks rather than just using an entirely different model gif and saying it's someone you met before. Though it really depends how much you can do with your specific AI model. If you're using a free one that is weird with r18 scenes that's no good. Hopefully what you have it trained on makes for a wide variety of scenes.

That being said- i'll check this out when it's a bit later in development. I'm only seeing it for the NTR tag- but I wonder if that's something that will be fleshed out(does the mc have a girlfriend or someone he likes?... is it more BSS(a girl he likes is with someone else- but they were never in an actual relationship to be stolen from?.. What's the tag referring to for the future of the game?... ignore if you've answered this already.)
 

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The title post seems like it's sending some pretty mixed messages. The overview paints the game as being all about freedom and choice whereas the developer notes say the game is about the "feminization, cuckolding and corruption of the main character", which sounds like the opposite. From reading the overview it sounds like you're trying to cater to the broadest possible range of tastes and that all those things might be included but would be optional. From your comments and the developer notes it sounds like player choice is always directed towards furthering the corruption and feminization of the MC (presumably through cuckolding amongst other things).

It might be worth clarifying that in the overview because people looking for that sort of game could easily gloss over this one and miss out, whereas people who are looking for the game it sounds like you're making in the overview will keep showing up and being disappointed that it isn't what they were expecting.

Also the release and update dates on this thread appear to be from the future because I'm pretty certain it's not July yet :unsure:
First of all, thank you for the feedback! My idea is really to diversify the situation more depending on the player’s taste, but also globally I want the player to be able to choose how he will ultimately get out of his situation. Will he obey, or will he try to get out of it, remaining himself, or rather, on the contrary, become stronger than he was before. But these are all mostly sketches of the story in my head, aha, I really hope to get my ideas done! Regarding the date, thank you for noticing, I will fix it with the next update
 
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Damn probably shouldn't have played this because it wasn't enough.

Suggestion: Be more clear with what the stats are. If you're going to represent them only with symbols in the ui, then have either mouse-over text on them or a stats explanation page. I've got a good idea of what they seem to be now from context but even then I'm not 100% if the first one is supposed to be Corruption, or something else.
Ahaha, thanks for the feedback! I think you're right, I plan to improve the stat system in the future, and this is a great idea, thanks!
 

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First of all, thank you for such a detailed review! It’s really very important for me to read such feedback, since I have very little experience! To be a little clearer, I'll jump ahead just a little bit in the story.
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Whether he is gay or not, I want the player to decide for himself whether he wants to participate in sexual encounters with men, and how this will happen. And regarding the characteristics, as I wrote to other commentators, I want to improve this system, I just thought that this might be enough for the prologue
 

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Netorare, corruption and people commenting on the writing? Okay... I'm interested. Pure visuals are boring, can get that anywhere. Good writing though? Now that's a treat.
 

Devenril

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AI better than real porn imo for these types of games- as it lets you stay way more consistent with character looks rather than just using an entirely different model gif and saying it's someone you met before. Though it really depends how much you can do with your specific AI model. If you're using a free one that is weird with r18 scenes that's no good. Hopefully what you have it trained on makes for a wide variety of scenes.

That being said- i'll check this out when it's a bit later in development. I'm only seeing it for the NTR tag- but I wonder if that's something that will be fleshed out(does the mc have a girlfriend or someone he likes?... is it more BSS(a girl he likes is with someone else- but they were never in an actual relationship to be stolen from?.. What's the tag referring to for the future of the game?... ignore if you've answered this already.)
Thanks for your feedback! Regarding GIFs and real porn, I will try very hard to include suitable images, I don’t really want to do without them, because personally I like it better, but I still put a lot of emphasis on the generated images.
 

Devenril

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Netorare, corruption and people commenting on the writing? Okay... I'm interested. Pure visuals are boring, can get that anywhere. Good writing though? Now that's a treat.
Hahaha, I wish you a good game! Unfortunately there isn't much content here right now, but I hope you enjoy it
 

Devenril

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AI better than real porn imo for these types of games- as it lets you stay way more consistent with character looks rather than just using an entirely different model gif and saying it's someone you met before. Though it really depends how much you can do with your specific AI model. If you're using a free one that is weird with r18 scenes that's no good. Hopefully what you have it trained on makes for a wide variety of scenes.

That being said- i'll check this out when it's a bit later in development. I'm only seeing it for the NTR tag- but I wonder if that's something that will be fleshed out(does the mc have a girlfriend or someone he likes?... is it more BSS(a girl he likes is with someone else- but they were never in an actual relationship to be stolen from?.. What's the tag referring to for the future of the game?... ignore if you've answered this already.)
And regarding the second question, which accidentally slipped my mind, I want to say that at the moment the main character has a girl who he likes, but he is not in a relationship with her. I'm actually not sure about the tag. I thought that of all the ones listed on the site, this one was more suitable for this situation?
 

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I want the player to be able to choose how he will ultimately get out of his situation. Will he obey, or will he try to get out of it, remaining himself, or rather, on the contrary, become stronger than he was before. But these are all mostly sketches of the story in my head, aha, I really hope to get my ideas done!
First of all, thank you for such a detailed review! It’s really very important for me to read such feedback, since I have very little experience! To be a little clearer, I'll jump ahead just a little bit in the story.
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Whether he is gay or not, I want the player to decide for himself whether he wants to participate in sexual encounters with men, and how this will happen. And regarding the characteristics, as I wrote to other commentators, I want to improve this system, I just thought that this might be enough for the prologue
You probably have played some games in the transformation genre before deciding to develop your own game. Are there any special games that inspired you and which you want to use as blue print for the design?

Regarding transformation I can suggest some games to have a look at :
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If you allow to skip the male encounters (MM) (what I appreciate), then you probably should add more events with female characters (Fm,FM, FF, Ff) depending on mc's transformation status to balance the number of events on each path. (And maybe add a lesbian tag for the case that the mc gets fully transformed and finds a girl.)

Regarding Stats there are some famous RPG systems like D&D or the Fallout SPECIAL system (Strength, Perception, Endurance, Charisma, Intelligence, Agility and Luck).

As I mentioned above, currently there is no inventory and clothing/equipment system (since it was not needed for the prologue), but in the long run you may need it, eg to differentiate between female and male clothing, sexy clothing, armor, etc.

Regarding GIFs and real porn :
I would suggest to use AI CG and some text instead of real porn whenever possible since your AI CGs have such a high quality that every real porn just looks bad in comparison. (If people want to watch porn, they usually know where to find it anyway.)
I would rate quality of some of your AI CGs similar to some Disney classics like Snow White and the Seven Dwarfs.
 
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