Paitryn

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I have heard the whole payment processor argument, but I am really wondering how much of this censorship is due to the payment processors and how much is due to Patreon itself. This is why I am happy to see developers thrive outside of Patreon, because they are shooting themselves in the foot with this whole censorship and banning mission they are on.
Honestly I've debunked this argument myself many times. Paypal is the only remote possibility and its only out of fear of chargebacks. Too many and paypal will drop you. But patreon is too big of a customer for that to really be an issue.

Chargebacks happen with big companies, but as long as its not a lot, most payment processors don't really care. (I've worked with payment processors so I have some experience with them as a business fwiw).

If you go to an adult toy shop or porn outlet they still take CCs so obviously they don't care that you buy porn. After all you buy a dildo you could just as easily say you didn't purchase it and the card company would issue a chargeback being the same headache as patreon would.

But I also don't think it's a moral agenda either. I honestly think it has more to do with bad press making patreon out to be the people who fund the sex industry and patreon responding in kind. Its foundational belief was support artists in the ways they were supported during the Renaissance.

The issue IMO is this social stigma. Their answer should have been "In order to allow our artists to be supported we cannot stifle their bodies of work if they do not violate the law, we must allow them to express themselves fully" Instead social stigma is forcing change for the worse.
 

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But I also don't think it's a moral agenda either. I honestly think it has more to do with bad press making patreon out to be the people who fund the sex industry and patreon responding in kind. Its foundational belief was support artists in the ways they were supported during the Renaissance.

The issue IMO is this social stigma. Their answer should have been "In order to allow our artists to be supported we cannot stifle their bodies of work if they do not violate the law, we must allow them to express themselves fully" Instead social stigma is forcing change for the worse.
I believe your suggestion is most likely correct. Has anyone heard of Naughty America or any other porn producers who make a fuckton of step-family fauxcest encountering any problems with payment processing? I haven't.

The people getting fucked over by Patreon isn't limited to artists of porn comics/games. Public intellectuals like Sam Harris, Jordan Peterson, and David Rubin have jumped ship or avoided the platform as well. It seems like lots of people are sick of how Patreon runs their business and the arbitrary way they enforce their poorly written terms & conditions.
 

UnDeaD_CyBorG

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Has there been an official fix for the phone- and otherwise issues with renpy.pause()?
I've personally just replaced it with renpy.pause(10) and that works for me.
Seems there's just no base duration set?
 

Fulmdiddy10

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How do get my save from chapter 2, so that I can start chapter 3-4? I've copied and pasted my saves from chapter 2 into the chapter 3-4 folder, but it's not showing up.
 

goobdoob

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How do get my save from chapter 2, so that I can start chapter 3-4? I've copied and pasted my saves from chapter 2 into the chapter 3-4 folder, but it's not showing up.
Look in the Chapter 2 spoiler in the OP.
 
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The mega link for chapter 2 is down.

Also, I keep getting loads of errors starting a new game with chapter 2. Downloaded from both filescdn and nopy, put the patch.rpy in the game folder, and it's just borked.

Edit: I didn't look through enough pages before, but if anyone else gets this issue I describe above on pc, just reset the save in the preferences menu, then load up your chapter 1 save, save that once it goes to a scene picture, finally quit the game and launch again loading that save.

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Fulmdiddy10

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on day 4, the game is only giving me the option to skip multiple scenes, is that a part of the game based on decisions I made earlier? cause that would suck, since one of the scenes was with Mika, which has been one of my favorite characters that I have been waiting for a scene with.
 

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on day 4, the game is only giving me the option to skip multiple scenes, is that a part of the game based on decisions I made earlier? cause that would suck, since one of the scenes was with Mika, which has been one of my favorite characters that I have been waiting for a scene with.
Activate the Dark Minds version
 

Zontany

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Do I need to download the Dark Mind patch for Day 1 & 2 or is there a way to enter the code in-game?
 

mayo777

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Should i get the compressed chapter 3 or the full chapter 3? the compressed says its v1 and ive searched about the difference in v2 and all i can find is that its a bug fix but not what and if its gamebreaking or not?
 

freedom.call

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Should i get the compressed chapter 3 or the full chapter 3? the compressed says its v1 and ive searched about the difference in v2 and all i can find is that its a bug fix but not what and if its gamebreaking or not?
I'd wait for the week 1 release, that's what I'm doing anyway. :)
 
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