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click on the pillow at the bottom right (if I remember it well)
Tell the dev to get rid of that stupid puzzle. The foot print is way too small to work, I spent 15 mins trying to click on it and could not get and I knew where it was (Android 4.0 version)
The dev has been told how bad this puzzle is and has done nothing to fix it.
Actually - the dev Did address this with v 0.53 - avail for download on F95 for free:
Echoes of Deception v 0.53 Dev Log 08/06/24
Changelog
Added:
- Added a reset button to puzzle, allowing users to restart their current puzzle progress.
- Added a skip button to puzzle, enabling users to skip the puzzle.
- Minor bug fixes.
- Completing puzzles will reward users with a bonus image in the gallery (expected in v0.60).
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There are several things that need to be improved during sex, which are very poorly done
1- there are no dialogues during the animations.
2- short animations.
If the developer doesn't know how to do sex scenes in animation, the ideal is to do like some games like Lisa, put only images, with several images, and dialogues during the images. It is also necessary to work on the dialogues, Ryland x Diana is an interesting couple, but out of nowhere they teleported to a sex scene, this was forced
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After finding some free time, I decided to finish this VN until the end of the content.
In general, it left me with very good feelings, among which I can name:
Warning: there are spoilers all over the place.
Diana starts out as a free-spirited character, which is perfect, but she has always been centered and disciplined.
But after the scene of the night attack and choosing the option "make a move" (which gives +1 of relationship with Ryland, I repeat +1), she automatically turns into a completely different person from the one she was before, totally surrendered to Ryland. She will repeat and repeat that she is married, but in the end none of this will matter. It doesn't matter if you want to avoid relations with him later, because she will be bound to him.
For example, you can avoid the first blowjob scene, but she will still show him her tits... But the scene with them in the car, you can't avoid it. And while we're on the subject of that scene, I want to say that it's very hot, yeah, but also kind of absurd, because the conversation between them can be summed up as follows:
Also, I found her reunion with Jason after he left the house... weird... I mean, Diana is a grown woman, and especially considering the dangers she faces (even at the beginning of the game, she is very concerned about her family's safety), she should understand why Derreck took him out of the house. But instead of understanding, she acts like she is angry or offended with him (Jason) for following Derreck instead of staying with her, completely ignoring the fact that an assassin broke into her house the night before and therefore that place is not safe for him at all. Speaking about Derreck, I didn't like the fact that his fight with Diana was shown quickly, without much detail, and as a falshback. I don't know if the developer was in a hurry to clear the way for Ryland to gain ground, but this argument between Derreck and Diana should have been given more emphasis, as it's a major point of conflict.
And that would be all. I want to make it clear that I really liked and enjoyed this VN, and if I'm here writing this, it's because I'm really interested in it and I see a lot of potential in it. Cheers!
In general, it left me with very good feelings, among which I can name:
- The story is generally very good.
- The quality of the renders is excellent.
- The pacing (for the most part)
- A good number of characters, neither too few nor too many.
- The animations, although not all scenes are animated, the ones that are show that the developer knows what he is doing.
- Including an option to skip the puzzles is a nice touch, and while I liked them, it shows that the developer is listening to its community.
Warning: there are spoilers all over the place.
Diana starts out as a free-spirited character, which is perfect, but she has always been centered and disciplined.
But after the scene of the night attack and choosing the option "make a move" (which gives +1 of relationship with Ryland, I repeat +1), she automatically turns into a completely different person from the one she was before, totally surrendered to Ryland. She will repeat and repeat that she is married, but in the end none of this will matter. It doesn't matter if you want to avoid relations with him later, because she will be bound to him.
For example, you can avoid the first blowjob scene, but she will still show him her tits... But the scene with them in the car, you can't avoid it. And while we're on the subject of that scene, I want to say that it's very hot, yeah, but also kind of absurd, because the conversation between them can be summed up as follows:
- R: "Hey, let's fuck."
- D: "No, I'm married"
- R: "Please"
- D: "Okay, fine"
Also, I found her reunion with Jason after he left the house... weird... I mean, Diana is a grown woman, and especially considering the dangers she faces (even at the beginning of the game, she is very concerned about her family's safety), she should understand why Derreck took him out of the house. But instead of understanding, she acts like she is angry or offended with him (Jason) for following Derreck instead of staying with her, completely ignoring the fact that an assassin broke into her house the night before and therefore that place is not safe for him at all. Speaking about Derreck, I didn't like the fact that his fight with Diana was shown quickly, without much detail, and as a falshback. I don't know if the developer was in a hurry to clear the way for Ryland to gain ground, but this argument between Derreck and Diana should have been given more emphasis, as it's a major point of conflict.
And that would be all. I want to make it clear that I really liked and enjoyed this VN, and if I'm here writing this, it's because I'm really interested in it and I see a lot of potential in it. Cheers!
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Mad_Koala I can see that writing erotic scenes isn't your strength, so you can do it as Stoper does, the dev of Jessica O'neil's Hard News, he hired an specialist in that field to help him. The erotic writer that helps stoper is called Amanda, she is a freelancer, this is her mail pommyumm@gmail.com You can see part of her work in JOHN or in these sites
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Man! I am really missing this game! Why does he take so much time for releasing updates??
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The dev took about 2.5 months between the most recent releases:
Rev 0.40 = ~ May 15, 2024
Rev 0.50 = ~ Aug 2, 2024
Prior to that - Patreon was doing their 'great purge/attack on AVNs' - and the dev redid the beginning of this AVN to avoid getting the Patreon 'under review' (means no new Patreons and uncertain about what happens to current $ supporters - if their $ is unavail to the dev while in this status or not) or the outright ban.
I'm glad that he took the time to redo the beginning so that he could protect the future of this AVN.
It did add to development time but that is far better than another enjoyable AVN getting the abandoned tag!
A few AVNs I enjoyed got the outright ban, and a number of others were forced to make changes that May be enough to prevent future Patreon 'attention' unless/until Patreon changes their rules again and forces more AVNs to the curb.
SS should be a solution for some devs/$ supporters, but I started supporting MadKoala on Patreon when their SS page was under review for > 3 months.
Would I like more frequent updates - Absolutely!!
But honestly, I am just glad that this AVN survived the latest Patreon attack sequence, and we are back to getting regular content updates.
Cheers!!
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I was actually talking about Jessica O Neil Hard news not this gameThe dev took about 2.5 months between the most recent releases:
Rev 0.40 = ~ May 15, 2024
Rev 0.50 = ~ Aug 2, 2024
Prior to that - Patreon was doing their 'great purge/attack on AVNs' - and the dev redid the beginning of this AVN to avoid getting the Patreon 'under review' (means no new Patreons and uncertain about what happens to current $ supporters - if their $ is unavail to the dev while in this status or not) or the outright ban.
I'm glad that he took the time to redo the beginning so that he could protect the future of this AVN.
It did add to development time but that is far better than another enjoyable AVN getting the abandoned tag!
A few AVNs I enjoyed got the outright ban, and a number of others were forced to make changes that May be enough to prevent future Patreon 'attention' unless/until Patreon changes their rules again and forces more AVNs to the curb.
SS should be a solution for some devs/$ supporters, but I started supporting MadKoala on Patreon when their SS page was under review for > 3 months.
Would I like more frequent updates - Absolutely!!
But honestly, I am just glad that this AVN survived the latest Patreon attack sequence, and we are back to getting regular content updates.
Cheers!!
My bad then!
I've seen this dev take flack for the rework - all to protect his creation so that he can continue to tell this story.
I thought it was worth it to point out what is, IMO, a good production schedule, post rework, for this AVN.
I won't go too far OT, but I will agree about JOHN.
Cheers!!
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The Mod is update, it just forgot to correct the title, it says so here:
https://f95zone.to/threads/echoes-of-deception-v0-53-madkoala.177430/post-14461931
However it stops the game first, so it would need to be revised. JokerLeader
this is where the game stops:
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I'm sorry to tell you this, but the game without the mod goes much further. That last sentence you point to is before the puzzle. Following that sentence is:
"Investigate the evidence chart. Click on the photos in the correct order." (the puzzle)
Di "Jerry Alvarez. I've crossed paths with him before. He seemed innocent enough, but something was off."
Fra "Jerry's a low-level guy, usually comes to clean up after a job. He does non-important, low-level stuff for Paul. "
Fra "He's one of the weakest links in his chain and doesn't know anything substantial."
Di "So, why is he up here?"
..............goes a long way with scenes: ..................
Ryland and Britney's scene, Diana and Marco's scene, Diana and Luke at the door, small puzzle, Marco with the stranger, Diana chasing Marco, Diana in the car with Ryland and finally Jason and Diana. in this order.
The game still ends with the sentence in the last image below: Di "What's been on your mind?"
