VN Ren'Py Echoes of Deception [v0.62] [MadKoala]

[MixQQ]

A game with a hot female character, with some of the most boring and bland sex scenes I've ever seen in AVNs, is now castrated of incest to fulfill Patreon's rulebook? On the one hand, I feel sorry for the dev that he was forced to do this. But on the other hand, I have no respect or trust for an author (of any kind) who voluntarily shackles himself for a few hundred bucks. I hope it was worth it. And this is not about incest per se. This is about a dev who kneels and fools himself and his audience that he is telling the story he chose and wants to show.

it's normal, patreon is on war against incest, blackmailing and mind-control stuff. Dev doesn't have a choice, so he make patreon-friendly version of the game.
Story is the strong point, but when it comes to lewd stuff - like you said. Dev definitely need to do something about that, they are written with no passion and ridiculously short

 

[co11ider]

Is there something wrong with f95? I can't seem to download the patch.

 

[youraccount69]

EchoesOfDeception-0.40

Spoiler: TORRENT 1237MB (Windows)

You don't have permission to view the spoiler content. Log in or register now.

rpdl torrents are unaffiliated with F95Zone and the game developer.
Please note that we do not provide support for games.
For torrent-related issues use here, or join us on

You must be registered to see the links

!

You must be registered to see the links

,

You must be registered to see the links

. Downloading issues? Look here.
Want to join the team? Read more here!​

 

[Edgar Anal Poe]

it's normal, patreon is on war against incest, blackmailing and mind-control stuff. Dev doesn't have a choice, so he make patreon-friendly version of the game.

I know perfectly well why this was done and I know what the situation is with Patreon. However this does not change anything in my attitude to how the dev solved it and how he censored his game. There were plenty of ways and other financial platforms to solve this differently. It was his choice.

Is there something wrong with f95? I can't seem to download the patch.

You don't need the patch. Incest has been removed from the game, storyline has been changed.

 

[co11ider]

I know perfectly well why this was done and I know what the situation is with Patreon. However this does not change anything in my attitude to how the dev solved it and how he censored his game. There were plenty of ways and other financial platforms to solve this differently. It was his choice.


You don't need the patch. Incest has been removed from the game, storyline has been changed.

Time for mods to remove the tag I suppose.

 

[ItsNotUs]

I know perfectly well why this was done and I know what the situation is with Patreon. However this does not change anything in my attitude to how the dev solved it and how he censored his game. There were plenty of ways and other financial platforms to solve this differently. It was his choice.


You don't need the patch. Incest has been removed from the game, storyline has been changed.

R.I.P

 

[Estius]

Curious, is the Subscribestar version and Patreon version different? It seems like there's cut content from the game listed here. The scene where they are searching for her ring under the bed seemed completely random.

 

[T ☯ K Y ☯]

Please note that previous saves are not compatible. You have to start the game from the beginning.

 

[only MILF]

No mom....no game...

 

[Overlord070]

So basically Jason became a neighbor instead of living in the house in order to avoid patreon doing anything?

 

[PaxHadrian17]

I know perfectly well why this was done and I know what the situation is with Patreon. However this does not change anything in my attitude to how the dev solved it and how he censored his game. There were plenty of ways and other financial platforms to solve this differently. It was his choice.


You don't need the patch. Incest has been removed from the game, storyline has been changed.

FYI

Patreon is still the 800 lb. gorilla for creators.

SS is not yet an option - it's been under review for approval by SS for > 2 months (that is when I started trying to become a supporter and could not via SS).

Itch has not been a consistent platform for $ supporters (based on devs who have said that they have removed them from their platform with little to no notice).

If someone gets most of their support via PayPal (not sure if there is a breakdown available to this dev), Patreon includes PayPal as a means to support, SS does not.

Only Fans has been discussed as a potential avenue for creator support but that is by people on the broader F95 forum, me included, versus anything in the news.

If you can cite something substantial and include screenshots - that would be great - it would give this dev someplace to start and give supporters of other devs bound to Patreon a way to break those shackles..

For now, at least, many devs are held hostage by Patreon and their uneven application of their changing TOS for their AVNs.

I wish it was different, but my wishing has yet to yield results...

Cheers!!

 

[BeastMaster59]

Great Game so far if the updates wouldn't take so long, and then what you get is some sucking or licking and a little suspense.
reminds me of a Game with a news reporter, damn cant think of the name, been so long since the last update also.

 

[Estius]

The game is broke. Even if you don't make a move on Ryan you still end up with dialog like you did and avoiding Sheril she still ends up in Diana's bed.

I get the game is still in development but, yeah, that should be fixed

 

[Herates]

Beautiful renders

WIncest

I-patch file corrupted, cannot open zip file at all.

 

[FAPANAUT]

Beautiful renders

WIncest

Um....can't open as an archive (tried multiple programs) what's the deal?

 

[DanThaMan]

I-patch file corrupted, cannot open zip file at all.

Um....can't open as an archive (tried multiple programs) what's the deal?

There's no incest anymore guys..

 

[FAPANAUT]

There's no incest anymore guys..

Oh well. I'll still play it.

Thanks for the update and info.

 

[Valkyrie_1999999999999999]

There's no incest anymore guys..

Well i remember playing the game right after it was released when the incest patch wasnt available and the storyline with Jason was almost exactly the same as it is now..he was an orphan and Diana adopted him and took him home after that an incest patch was added and that entire storyline was completely deleted and Jason became her son..so i am hopeful that a new incest patch will be added soon and that orphan storyline will be deleted again with Jason becoming Diana's biological son..

 

[DanThaMan]

Well i remember playing the game right after it was released when the incest patch wasnt available and the storyline with Jason was almost exactly the same as it is now..he was an orphan and Diana adopted him and took him home after that an incest patch was added and that entire storyline was completely deleted and Jason became her son..so i am hopeful that a new incest patch will be added soon and that orphan storyline will be deleted again with Jason becoming Diana's biological son..

Do you really believe the dev will delete the orphan storyline AGAIN? Then the dev would just be going round in circles..

 

[Nerro]

I think that this story is best told as it has been, with a mix of 'happy' wife and 'lusty' wife who is tired of her husband's long absences.

Cheating is the tag in the OP - Not NTR.

There is no need to turn her into a cum dump for more men.

This story has, IMO, enough relationships to expand upon:

Husband - good/lonely wife
Jason (relationship likely being rewritten due to Patreon) - son/stepson/caretaker learning about women
Former coworker who she was intimate with - cheating due to choice/being lonely
Woman she saved - lesbian exploration

I'd prefer the dev spend time making each of these 4 relationships much more meaningful.

Why add more men to dilute the effect of these relationships and reduce their screen time?

There are NTR focused AVNs on F95 - all you need to do is use the search function to find them.

There is no need to try to turn this AVN into an NTR fest - something it is not.

I think examining the comments from his $ supporters would also shed light on the content they want and are willing to support with their $.

Bet it's not a boatload of NTR...

Cheers!!

Seeing as we are talking about a female MC, this is defacto not NTR, even if the focus is on her cheating on their SO with many other guys, it still would not be NTR if we don't play any POV of her SO. That said, I think the focus should be equally distributed between loyal wife, cheating wife with few select people and slutty wife involving many more people. All these genre together attracts a wide audience and they are not mutually exclusive from each other like NTR/Vanilla is.

Only focusing on romance in a female MC game is extremely niche within the adult game community and will not be liked or even played by many people. The most popular games, when it comes to types of MC, is Male MC romance or Female MC slut. You will see majority games follow either one or the other with some variations/optional content because that's what most people wanna play here.

So it would be stupid to not expand on the slut content of this game, if the dev is interested in making a game people actually wanna play that is.