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MiltonPowers

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jak1165 said:
Its difficult to pull off a well-written slowburn. I've seen the slow part. Its the "burn" part that trips most writers up
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The key to a successful slowburn (for me anyway) is that the player can see gradual improvement of the romantic relationship. Each update might have a 2 steps forward, 1 step back mentality, but at least we can see some progression. A lot of devs seem to think a slowburn is an LI saying no for 10+ updates and then suddenly 'yeah ok, let's fuck'. Very few devs are able to pull it off, as it is an art/skill.
 
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jak1165 said:
Its difficult to pull off a well-written slowburn. I've seen the slow part. Its the "burn" part that trips most writers up
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not just that it feels like even ones I feel like are done good most people don't have the patience for the slow burn and feel like it's blue balls more than slow burn because they wait years and years as the game gets developed. Eventually slow burn just gets rushed in some game ive played all of sudden after it being slow for awhile.

While I have alot of patience and really do not mind slow burn I even prefer it. Not everything needs to be slow burn either. I say as long as there is some character deveolopment and it makes sense for the romance / lewd scenes with the context that would be perfectly fine too , just really depends what kind of romance the dev has in mind for said character. As long as it isn't quick burn I really don't mind, as to me quick burn usually feels more rushed and forced.
 
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Dessolos said:
I agree nothing wrong with that but idk I still don't like it when I see it in a AVN's unless that character is meant to be a slutty character or a side girl tbh. It just feels boring for me to get to the sex right away before I can get to know them and decide if I like them. But that's also cause I don't play these for the lewds but getting to know the characters , dates and other romantic stuff first. So basically I like the whole dating sim aspect of course it also depends on the game. I actually get annoyed when some games have to many lewd scenes in short periods of time or lewd scenes go on for to long , depending on the scene. Some games I play just to turn my brain off and enjoy it for what it is so it really depends on the game as well. I'm more okay with harems and fuck fest games being quick cause I know what im getting into. Unsure where this game falls for me it's one of the next few games I plan to play.
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Slow sex drive and slow build up to the story. This is a big problem for harem games, usually slow build up is associated with developers who like to milk and drag out time with slow teasing. So sometimes it's good when there's a little quick sex. And for quick sex, us also need a hot scene and a long build up to get excited!

As for the slow plot and teasing, I like them too, when IT is done well and qualitatively, especially when these slow plot and sexual attraction happen beautifully and slowly, the main thing is that the developers do not drag out with these. Everyone has their own taste, someone likes a quick transition to sex, because many are tired of slow teasing.
And some of us like a slow transition to the plot or sex, because it is exciting and makes you even more interested in the game and understand them and learn a lot about the characters.
 
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flaviopaganini said:
As for actual development news, I've spent most of this week testing various ways to improve some of the 'jiggle physics' in sex scenes.
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I have to say, this is one of the key things that can take a game from good to great for me. There's nothing that has the potential to spoil a good game more than an otherwise-good sex scene where the tits just don't move at all (other bits too, depending on positioning - hair, ass, etc.). It sounds like a tiny little thing, but in terms of immersion (as much as I get that) it's a biggie for me. It shows the process and skill of the dev too, if they've not at least tried, it feels like they're not bothered about making their game look as good as it could look.
 
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f96zonetrooper said:
Thanks for the hint.
I used the hint from an earlier post where to place Nerdy Chick card and this alone was enough to win the game on first try against Saki.

This only works because AI uses the SAKI card poorly.
The strength of cards like Saki or Ella is the potential to flip 2-3 nearby cards, but those cards must be already on the board. Here the Saki card only yields 2 points instead of potential 4 points. Playing such a strong card early is kind a waste.
A stronger move for Saki would be like the shown Ella-move in late game on middle position, flipping up to 3 other cards.

You can try to prepare the board for a strong card, eg on central position, by letting AI place cards or let AI flip your own cards in neighbouring positions you can later flip back with your strong card. However there is always the danger that AI itself will place a card on that strong position, so minimizing the number of cards AI can flip from that tile is crucial.
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This seems to be the only way to win this.
 
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Next thing from the survey we'll look at is Molly's data. Molly had a unique question in the survey which was about her piercing - a question I added after a number of people commented on their dislike for it. Above we can now see exactly how split people are about it. At the very end of the survey we now have a very slight majority of those in favour of it. A while ago I actually said that if slightly more people didn't like it I still wouldn't change it. For me to change it I wanted a strong majority of at least 66% which of course hasn't happened. The reason for that high threshold is just because I think it assists in describing her as a person and also helps make her more unique. The interesting thing though is that amongst my Patreon subscribers specifically, I think there is a slight majority of around 60% that dislike the piercing. Before I opened up the survey to the public with the public release of E2 that graph as sitting around 60-40 against the piercing and as we got more and more responses it slowly decayed to a slight minority which is very interesting. Truth be told I do value the opinion of you guys - my Patreon members - more than the public but even if the survey wasn't opened that small majority wouldn't be enough for me to want to change it. But even though the septum piercing will stay, it doesn't necessarily mean that Molly will be wearing it 24/7.

As for Molly's attractiveness and personailty data, I'm not too surprised by any of this. Part of me was worried Molly might be rated lower on attractiveness than she was but I'm really pleased with how many 8-10 votes she has. And when you look at Molly's data it does make you think that an average rating probably isn't the best tool for this. Molly's graph clearly paints her as an 8 rather than a 7.66. Ella's graph in the E1 survey clearly paints her as a 10 and not a 9.25. If I took a median value instead of a mean we'd get those two numbers so in hindsight maybe that would have been more useful. But regardless the main thing I was after was a rough ranking of favouritism amongst all girls and that's been achieved.
 
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By the time i first found out about this game episode 2 was nearing completion so i decided to wait to play both episodes and fast forward to now where i finally got to play and here are my thoughts which you can ignore if you want.

I really like this game and it has a lot of potential but it just needs more content and more episodes. the stopping point for episode 2 was very sudden and abrupt which is not that important i just didn't see it coming. i love all the girls and renders are gorgeous especially my favorite Ella but i cant help but feel like all the girls you interact with are just fuck buddies or booty calls. i know this is supposed to be a harem but it would be nice if we can choose one of the Li as a girlfriend and they can have a major boost to their love and lust stats and they can be the leader for your harem since that what this game fundamentally is and i'm not complaining since i love harem games but none of the girls i feel strongly attached to and they all seem promiscuous. It just feels like hey wanna fuck okay see you later. I also think the dialogue and choices can be written better rather than complimenting them every chance you get like hey your cute or your pretty. This is the first time i played a AVN with a skill tree system and i love it but dev were going to need more skill points as the game progresses. i tried playing around with the skills and tried to see if the milf skills would work on the teachers when you go talk to them in Ep 2 but they just shut me down don't know if thats supposed to happen or if its a bug like i mean the teachers do qualify as milfs right? sorry for the long rambling but its a great game with amazing H scenes and excited for future updates.
 
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Rizzler97 said:
By the time i first found out about this game episode 2 was nearing completion so i decided to wait to play both episodes and fast forward to now where i finally got to play and here are my thoughts which you can ignore if you want.

I really like this game and it has a lot of potential but it just needs more content and more episodes. the stopping point for episode 2 was very sudden and abrupt which is not that important i just didn't see it coming. i love all the girls and renders are gorgeous especially my favorite Ella but i cant help but feel like all the girls you interact with are just fuck buddies or booty calls. i know this is supposed to be a harem but it would be nice if we can choose one of the Li as a girlfriend and they can have a major boost to their love and lust stats and they can be the leader for your harem since that what this game fundamentally is and i'm not complaining since i love harem games but none of the girls i feel strongly attached to and they all seem promiscuous. It just feels like hey wanna fuck okay see you later. I also think the dialogue and choices can be written better rather than complimenting them every chance you get like hey your cute or your pretty. This is the first time i played a AVN with a skill tree system and i love it but dev were going to need more skill points as the game progresses. i tried playing around with the skills and tried to see if the milf skills would work on the teachers when you go talk to them in Ep 2 but they just shut me down don't know if thats supposed to happen or if its a bug like i mean the teachers do qualify as milfs right? sorry for the long rambling but its a great game with amazing H scenes and excited for future updates.
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Yes, the 2 teachers are 2 of the 18 romanceable characters, but their paths have not developed into anything yet. There is 11 different endings from Harem, throuples and solos. So you can concentrate on just 1 girl if you wish. But we don't know yet, who is available for a solo ending (so Ella might not be).
 
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MiltonPowers said:
Oh, I'll be doing some solo paths alright. :p And some throuples, and harem, and whatever else is available. :ROFLMAO:
Seriously though, I think some girls like Taylor and the teachers will be better on solo paths.
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I'm looking forward to Florence, Naomi, Taylor and Katie's solo routes/endings. And while I am being more or less positive about first 3, I highly doubt about Katie though.
 
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So played this the other day and i absolutely love it. Going to weigh in on the 2 changes coming.

In regards to the penis size I honestly don't get it, he looks like hes got a solid 9 inches which honestly is perfect for porn relsted content. I get there are a bunch of devs who go with actual oversized horsecocks, but when i dev uses a reasonable 9 inches i just dont get the complaints. If its too big for you why consume porn?

With Selina she made such a bad first impression i don't really care to much. However the new hair is a huge improvement, the boob reduction might not do her any favors though. She for me personally is already middle to bottom of the pack looks wise, and wasn't really that big in the boob department to begin with. Then again you cant tell how they look from the preview render so we need to wait till she appears properly again to judge.
 
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snakeplisskin said:
So played this the other day and i absolutely love it. Going to weigh in on the 2 changes coming.

In regards to the penis size I honestly don't get it, he looks like hes got a solid 9 inches which honestly is perfect for porn relsted content. I get there are a bunch of devs who go with actual oversized horsecocks, but when i dev uses a reasonable 9 inches i just dont get the complaints. If its too big for you why consume porn?

With Selina she made such a bad first impression i don't really care to much. However the new hair is a huge improvement, the boob reduction might not do her any favors though. She for me personally is already middle to bottom of the pack looks wise, and wasn't really that big in the boob department to begin with. Then again you cant tell how they look from the preview render so we need to wait till she appears properly again to judge.
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Boob reductions are always bad imo (in fantasy land, Irl do what you gotta do to be happy and healthy ladies).
 
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