Endgame for NTR players in a NTR game

[ulala0077]

Hi, I am making a game that has NTR in it. My question is specifically for NTR loving people.

What is your end game in a NTR game. Most NTR games, where the guy who is stealing the girls are either abandoned or under development. I want to ask what an NTR gamer see as an end game for such games.

Is it to get as many NTR scenes possible while slowly and steadily winning your girls back in the end or having the other guy winning it all.

I have a good well thought plan about MC following the first part while keep the NTR loving part of his personality intact but when I think about the latter part, I can't seem to be able to think more content than 2-3 updates and an early game over.

 

[DraconicPervert]

The answer depends on who you ask the question to.
Every person has their own kinks/fetishes.

But i see 3 categories of people who like NTR scenes:

1. People who like to be cucked (start with the girl) and slowly lose her
2. People who want to rescue the girl from another guy (start single) and slowly win her over
3. People who want to corrupt the girl (turn her into a slut) and share her with others

My advice would be to make the scenes/kinks/story that you yourself would like to see and give the players an option to skip certain scenes that don't fit their kinks.
If you try to cater to everyone their kinks, I'm afraid your game would never get finished.

 

[ulala0077]

The answer depends on who you ask the question to.
Every person has their own kinks/fetishes.

But i see 3 categories of people who like NTR scenes:

1. People who like to be cucked (start with the girl) and slowly lose her
2. People who want to rescue the girl from another guy (start single) and slowly win her over
3. People who want to corrupt the girl (turn her into a slut) and share her with others

My advice would be to make the scenes/kinks/story that you yourself would like to see and give the players an option to skip certain scenes that don't fit their kinks.
If you try to cater to everyone their kinks, I'm afraid your game would never get finished.

I am planning two routes, one NTR another non NTR. While I see the non-NTR one going longer in terms or story and plot development. I don't see the same in first NTR scene you mentioned.

I think I will follow the second route for the NTR path and keep the first part for game over.

Third NTR route will mess up the plot line so won't even touch that.

 

[jewelss]

It all comes down to story. I don't like stories like, "i took pictures of you when you're peeing, so now you will fuck everyone in tokyo tower or i show this to your husband" like wtf.

 

[morpheusahrms]

As I am NOT an NTR fan myself I should probably just shut up (fat chance! ;-) ) especially as wyrmslayer gave you the right answer I think. Just to let me elaborate on his points as I have seen your project, imo your choices are:

Your MC gets devastated and left alone and broken - which is the most "realistic" outcome in your scenario, but would not fit your game as the NTR stuff starts from the beginning and there would be little character arc and development = extremely boring.

Your MC starts to fight back and claims the ones he loves back / punishes his opposition and grows as a person in the process. A good arc but not satisfactory for most real NTR fans. This would be the NON-NTR route in your case as you start with an unavoidable case of NTR. (If you add the possibility of kicking actual asses too, you might even make the hard anti NTR crowd happy)

Your MC becomes compliant and even derives pleasure from the humiliation and emasculation, starts to aid in it and finds his own "happiness" in what happens. This would probably the best route to go in your game, together with the second point above as Non-NTR route.

Cheers!

 

[DawnCry]

I'm not a lover of NTR but I don't dislike it.

The most typical ending that a NTR game gets when you lose the girl is that she gets pregnant and happy with her new partner.

Overall NTR is an interesting fetish when we talk about the flexibility and gameplay. On linear stories with choices it may not be clear the benefit of it on the gameplay but when it's free style games it gets quite noticable.

But, an NTR loving MC feels weird for most of the players, in fact, someone that desire to lose and finds enjoyment with it is really hard to create content for him.

I would like to give an example of a "perfect" Ntr game in my opinnion:

-You start the game alone or with a current girlfriend.
-Other people may gain an interesting on your girlfriend during the game or in the other girls that appear in the game
-The girlfriends stats decide when she would be willing to cheat, basically the more loyal she is the higher the requirements
-The guys that are after your girlfriend try to interact with her and may make "strategies"
-Strategies can vary from blackmail, to using her innocence, her lack of sex knowledge or lies
-The player gets enough information about one rival using a strategy.
-If the strategy is a success the girl will enter cheating stage, she will be unwilling in most of the cases, certain strategies or meeting the requirements for her to cheat would have her in the willing stage
-When having sex with the other guy she will compare your skills, penis size... if the rival is better she will fall faster, if not she will be slower
-Even if you lose your girlfriend and don't want her back, there are more girls in the game, but if you ignore them they will get into a relationship and you will have to steal them.
-It is possible to get back your girlfriend by stealing her back
-A girl becomes impossible to get back when she is impregnated by the other guy.

Overall this shows my view of a "perfect NTR game", steal and be stolen, people developing relationships if you don't pursue the girl and using pregnancy as the "ending", that doesn't mean that it can get added a few pregnant scenes between her partner and her.

 

[desmosome]

If you want NTR as the driving fetish, the most satisfying is a hard NTR that is entirely focused on telling a story of the girl getting stolen. This is extremely rare in western games because as you might expect, people cry about it constantly. You see this kind of story a lot in japanese games/manga where the fetish is well developed and accepted.

So what we usually get in western games is basically the classic BBC cuck stories, or the optional NTR on the side. The real meat of the NTR which is establishing a strong relationship to start off and showing a gradual decline is almost never present. The final payoff of the woman abandoning all reason and falling into depravity is only as powerful as the setup prior to that point.

Real NTR really needs a dedicated story to support it. I've never seen a satisfying one in all the games with mixed harem/NTR paths for instance.

As far as your game, it seems like you took the story outline from an existing source and it has a traumatizing event at the beginning to drive the MC's actions and motivations. I wouldn't even call that NTR really. At least not NTR as a fetish. Of course, even that is enough to rile people up as you've noticed lol. Honestly, I would just follow the original script and maybe add a non-"NTR" path that avoids that GF cheating or whatever it is. Trying to make an NTR path might be just additional work for very little gain.

 

[ulala0077]

If you want NTR as the driving fetish, the most satisfying is a hard NTR that is entirely focused on telling a story of the girl getting stolen. This is extremely rare in western games because as you might expect, people cry about it constantly. You see this kind of story a lot in japanese games/manga where the fetish is well developed and accepted.

So what we usually get in western games is basically the classic BBC cuck stories, or the optional NTR on the side. The real meat of the NTR which is establishing a strong relationship to start off and showing a gradual decline is almost never present. The final payoff of the woman abandoning all reason and falling into depravity is only as powerful as the setup prior to that point.

Real NTR really needs a dedicated story to support it. I've never seen a satisfying one in all the games with mixed harem/NTR paths for instance.

As far as your game, it seems like you took the story outline from an existing source and it has a traumatizing event at the beginning to drive the MC's actions and motivations. I wouldn't even call that NTR really. At least not NTR as a fetish. Of course, even that is enough to rile people up as you've noticed lol. Honestly, I would just follow the original script and maybe add a non-"NTR" path that avoids that GF cheating or whatever it is. Trying to make an NTR path might be just additional work for very little gain.

Thanks a lot! That's a very great advice!

 

[slider]

I like it when every major path has a couple of minor routes with different endings inside them. I think there is space for love and happiness even in a path filled with NTR, so I'd like to see there is the possibility of a happy ending where the MC is in a loving relationship with one of the girls while getting cucked by her.

If there are several girls to romance, one could have an ending where they are swingers, another girl an ending where she cheats without the MC knowing, another one where she is a hotwife and the MC a willing cuckold, another where she always ends up dumping you, etc.

 

[WRONGS]

My whole thing is pretty much the trip, not the destination. I like corruption as a concept. I find a female character being corrupted pretty damn hot, and her betraying a loved significant other is pretty much the height of that.
The endgame is less relevant. I like a happy ending with the "good guys" being happy and the jerks getting some sort of comeuppance as much as anyone, honestly.
Hell, even the idea of a female character "decorrupting" herself and going back to normalcy is pretty nice. It leaves some space for things to start all over.

 

[ulala0077]

Hell, even the idea of a female character "decorrupting" herself and going back to normalcy is pretty nice. It leaves some space for things to start all over.

I was thinking for a decorruption game as my third game. But I doubt non-ntr fanbase would even hear the idea.

 

[CırıLover]

I have no idea how there is no category for wife sharing where the husband is not cucked (aka made a loser). Maybe swinging, but swinging usually involves couples, and the ntr I see here is usually husband having a small dick and the wife and the bull making fun of him.
I have seen many porn where the wife teases strangers (ex jeny Smith) and lets them grope her (ex exhibitionist Heather) but has sex with the husband only. How come there is no category for such in porn games, it is just frustrating. I would love to pay for such a game if it happens. One fine example is JOHN and I am already a patreon member of this game.

 

[RedPillBlues]

I was thinking for a decorruption game as my third game. But I doubt non-ntr fanbase would even hear the idea.

If you look at a few NTR game threads you will notice a stark difference between NTR with a male protag and a female protag. If your idea of a third game was from lets say the perspective a dude whos wife is a cheating on him and theres two routes, one NTR and the other "decorrupting," then yes, no person who dislikes NTR would even give it a second thought. It would be a insta-ignore for them. However if its from the female perspective and they don't have to hear much from the perspective of the husband, or even hear about him, then no, most players wont care at all and would play it.

 

[Neone]

I once read a story where the MC gets NTR'd, there's some voyeuri but he leaves the girl instead, and the MC ends up with another girl who later becomes another sextoy to the original third party and that's very hot. But the best bit also has to be
where the MC's family members get taken also so there's alot of spice.

 

[DarknessDai]

as for me really i think this best NTR game will be in a good game hear me out in real Life when u are in relationship sometimes the guys cheats sometimes the girl cheats for a lot of reasons lack of

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or he's not good enough in bed or he's foucisng more in his job and and this goes for both anyway the best NTR game would be if the player is already married for long time 5/10 years they live normal as any couple in this world u can put other girls in this game and other guys i mean the unrealstic thing in adult games is how all girls just wait for MC and nothing happens if u try to spice thing with ur wife and u don't ignore her u will lose the other guys and if u try with any other girl u will lose your wife this will make NTR/NON NTR fans happy as in this game u can either have happy marriage u can still have good game in this route as the husband and the wife expolre each other and try to fix everything and spice their love from various events this is my idea for how should NTR be in game i mean if u put game where u just get NTRed without chance of fighting back ? have the game have common route at the start to show all girls / guys and introudce everybody then u plan to get every route maybe have happy and bad endings for NTR/NON NTR paths ? and maybe if u were good enough u can get the harem ending lol or lose everything trying ? anyway guys sorry for my bad english for me i think NTR should be in games as consequence for

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i hope u like my idea and go for shakeup and have Harem/NTR/ with good and bad endings for them

 

[James009]

hello fellas,
first of all, i like those games the most in which we have the girl as MC (female protagonist), because here we have a widely spread base. That is you are in a ongoing relationship(maybe a husband-wife, boyfriend-girlfriend) and here u can cheat on your boyfriend, or be loyal to him, but since this thread is focused on ntr( i like ntr ), many types of ntr is possible.

 

[ChaosOpen]

I have no idea how there is no category for wife sharing where the husband is not cucked (aka made a loser). Maybe swinging, but swinging usually involves couples, and the ntr I see here is usually husband having a small dick and the wife and the bull making fun of him.
I have seen many porn where the wife teases strangers (ex jeny Smith) and lets them grope her (ex exhibitionist Heather) but has sex with the husband only. How come there is no category for such in porn games, it is just frustrating. I would love to pay for such a game if it happens. One fine example is JOHN and I am already a patreon member of this game.

Because NTR is basically a fetish of the most hardcore of masochists. Rather than just having a dominant/sadistic woman, they want to feel shameful and be absolutely humiliated as they are treated like trash and thrust into the depths of despair with no escape and no recourse. The sex often isn't the important part, it's meerly a means to an ends, the key part is showing how much better the other guy is at sex than you; which is why it is depicted as so good that she completely loses her ability to make rational decisions.

 

[CırıLover]

Because NTR is basically a fetish of the most hardcore of masochists. Rather than just having a dominant/sadistic woman they, want to feel shameful and be absolutely humiliated as they are treated like trash and thrust into the depths of despair with no escape and no recourse. The sex often isn't the important part, it's meerly a means to an ends, the key part is showing how much better the other guy is at sex than you; which is why it is depicted as so good that she completely loses her ability to make rational decisions.

Yup you are right I am not denying that, I am just sad that there is no such category of gf/wife sharing without the cuckold aspect.

 

[ChaosOpen]

Yup you are right I am not denying that, I am just sad that there is no such category of gf/wife sharing without the cuckold aspect.

Yeah, but thing is that netorare is so popular at the moment that there is no market for it sadly. Honestly, you'd figure it would be a rather niche fetish but it seems like half of all the hentai coming out of Japan has netorare either front and center or at least one of the endings; what happened in Japan to make every Otaku decide that they loved being cucked?

 

[Dragul17]

Personally an option where you win the girl back would be a great ending bittersweet and hard to swallow especially if she gets pregnant with the other guy's kid. Kinda like the ending to Otome Dori