VN Ren'Py Completed Ergi [v0.9573] [KKChar]

[Argent Knight]

Also you saying like using AI SLOP is not a big deal. BUT it's in fact a huge red flag.

I think that's the biggest point for me. I've now seen a game where AI doesn't suck (albeit used in a very workaround/Ren'py character sprite way) in Canticle. AI *can* be used if consistent, smart and artistically done. The problem (and red flag) with Ergi is that very high quality renders were switched out for very low quality and effort AI art that wasn't even edited or quality control checked to make it look anything like the previous art in a lot of cases. It put the 'slop' in AI slop.

I also maintain that the switch in art should have been related to the patrons, so it didn't come as such an unwelcome surprise. In my opinion, there was a degree of dishonesty, protecting their cash flow, when the devs released chapter 9 art samples that were either recycled from unused earlier renders or hard to determine were AI generated.

In essence, they bait and switched us to an inferior product at the finish line. That was a choice. A series of choices. A pattern of dishonest behavior that makes me uncomfortable with throwing more money at them. I can't trust them to live up to their end of any other deals (projects/games) now and thus it feels like I'd be throwing away my money.

 

[XVGuil]

I asked a couple of questions, you are the one jumped in to defend the dev white knight style, dismiss any criticism. No matter what you claim, Ergi literally turns into shit at the end, that's why so many voice their disappointment.
Are you NOT speculating? How do you know their new game WILL be good? In fact, what did I "speculating"? My previous post are all questions. I just said that as polite way to "Agree to disagree", but I guess fanboys can't take no as answer.

Are you already forgetting The dev literally cut short Ergi with minimum efforts + AI slop, so they can start making the more money making Hetero + Lesbian + Gay + whatever new game? Is that not a FACT?
Also you saying like using AI SLOP is not a big deal. BUT it's in fact a huge red flag.
Fanboys really have bad memories ain't they?

Literally in my comments I mentioned over and over again, and in this thread REPEATEDLY, the AI slop is a huge problem. And not once in my comment I ever said the future game will be GOOD! I literally said in a few comments up, the AI slop doesn't inspire much confidence for future game! Cite my comment that I said the future game will be good or imply so, I dare you.

"Are you already forgetting The dev literally cut short Ergi with minimum efforts + AI slop, so they can start making the more money making Hetero + Lesbian + Gay + whatever new game? Is that not a FACT?" That is in fact not a fact, that is something I said a while back without any proof, just a hunch. I literally was the one who said that, and I still believe that, but that is not a fact, that is speculation that I made, in this thread! you can look it up!

The problem here is not me who refuse to listen to criticism (I think the future game won't be good as much as you do, only for different reason, which is not the narrative), but you who think just because I defended one good aspect of the game, therefore I defended the whole game, therefore a fanboy, and refuse to even comprehend what I said.

" just said that as polite way to "Agree to disagree"" you can't say you're agreeing to disagree with me when you barely read my comments, interpret it the way you like irresposibly, and putting words in my mouth.

 

[XVGuil]

I think that's the biggest point for me. I've now seen a game where AI doesn't suck (albeit used in a very workaround/Ren'py character sprite way) in Canticle. AI *can* be used if consistent, smart and artistically done.

Canticle is really good. Like it's clearly made by AI, but it didn't strike you in a wrong way (Except maybe in some scenes), and honestly, they really nailed the concept of the gameplay/minigames in a way that is fun, but not overtly exhausting for the players.

 

[Nacrill]

If the artist's work in Ergi were replaced by this level of AI, I would not be opposed to it at all.

But when Chapter 8 depicts the main character's face drawn by a live artist and everyone has long since gotten used to it, and then in Chapter 9, the normal face is replaced with THIS (and this art has not been corrected even with the latest update)... Questions and indignation arise.

 

[Brunototor]

I never have it, I've only played the alpine base tho.

Yeap, it seems like this bug only happens if you're in Vanaheimr.

 

[Brunototor]

It seems that the new game will have animated AI.
Although it is possible to generate consistent AI images, the same does not apply to videos.

And I don't know how the backers felt, but it really doesn't make a good impression to invest so much in a new game when the last one has so many bugs.

 

[XVGuil]

It seems that the new game will have animated AI.
Although it is possible to generate consistent AI images, the same does not apply to videos.

And I don't know how the backers felt, but it really doesn't make a good impression to invest so much in a new game when the last one has so many bugs.

I mean, the ai in the trailer doesn't look that good if I am honest.

 

[JohnNHCor]

Any fullGame link with all chapters joined ?

 

[boon4791]

It is a tragedy because the game's CG is quite well done all the way and to fall so near the end.
If the CG is only marginally good to begin with, not too many will be upset.
I like the scene where Britt and Borge smoking at the end of the prologue alot.

 

[B1smth]

But when Chapter 8 depicts the main character's face drawn by a live artist and everyone has long since gotten used to it, and then in Chapter 9, the normal face is replaced with THIS (and this art has not been corrected even with the latest update)... Questions and indignation arise. View attachment 5452012

This CG is so funny to me cus he looks so bloated like did he just get a wisdom tooth extraction?? did he get stung by bees?? an allergic reaction to kukk???

 

[Argent Knight]

This CG is so funny to me cus he looks so bloated like did he just get a wisdom tooth extraction?? did he get stung by bees?? an allergic reaction to kukk???

That’s actually Britt’s secret twin, Brett, who has put on his freshman 15 at Nord University. Too much beer, too much asbru, not enough giant monster attacks to work off the calories.