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Hungover00

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Is it safe to say that Cleo is the one Ashe despises the most? There isn't a single line(that I remember), dream sequence or anything else that hints that Ashe has any attraction towards her. Even Natasha, Moira and Jessica are shown as options to Ashe in some scenes.
I think you have to choose sub or cuck options for Ashe to fantasise about Cleo.
 
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Orphanus

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Hm, the path thing is a bit concerning, playing sub is nice, but not when it involves potentially unavoidable sex scenes, especially with the police officer e.g.
Kinda feels rather restrictive in terms of being able to make choices that feel right, I don't wanna dominate any character, just be in control of which characters Ashe gets intimate with, but the path thing at least looks like that won't be possible? :c
 

Kontralta

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Cause that has absolutely nothing to do with each other? :unsure: Being submissive means preferring dominant partners, not that one doesn't make one's own choices in regards to who those partners are.
Yeah. But the point is that MC is so dominated that she won't want to refuse.
 

Orphanus

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Yeah. But the point is that MC is so dominated that she won't want to refuse.
Which would be super restrictive, there aren't many points to make any choices so the routes are basically kinetic & why should people be completely locked out of submissive content and also be forced into dominating the potential partners just to avoid being raped by that cop and/or characters like Chloe? If that even is the case, of course, the idea behind the routes might not be taking away any kind of choice, it's just that at the moment it kinda feels like it. Edit: But apparently that is a misconception on my end.
 

MorallyLucky

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Hm, the path thing is a bit concerning, playing sub is nice, but not when it involves potentially unavoidable sex scenes, especially with the police officer e.g.
Kinda feels rather restrictive in terms of being able to make choices that feel right, I don't wanna dominate any character, just be in control of which characters Ashe gets intimate with, but the path thing at least looks like that won't be possible? :c
I'm like 99.99% that that is possible. The path is just the flavor of the game, the game still will let you pick and choose which characters you get intimate with or not. You can see during the mentor scene whether you can let it happen or just leave preemptively.
 

Orphanus

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I'm like 99.99% that that is possible. The path is just the flavor of the game, the game still will let you pick and choose which characters you get intimate with or not. You can see during the mentor scene whether you can let it happen or just leave preemptively.
Oh! Okay, that would of course be really neat. Thank you, gotta hope that is how things will work out. Would be a shame if there was no way to have Delilah be a bit dommy (without having Officer Shaw unavoidably shoved down and into places). :sneaky:
 

Kontralta

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Which would be super restrictive, there aren't many points to make any choices so the routes are basically kinetic & why should people be completely locked out of submissive content and also be forced into dominating the potential partners just to avoid being raped by that cop and/or characters like Chloe? If that even is the case, of course, the idea behind the routes might not be taking away any kind of choice, it's just that at the moment it kinda feels like it. Edit: But apparently that is a misconception on my end.
Firstly, don't talk about rape, that's something completely different. Rape is when the partner is against it. And here MC wants it.
Secondly, yes, it's a lack of division on the path. But probably such choices will still be on all paths.
 
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Orphanus

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Firstly, don't talk about rape, that's something completely different. Rape is when the partner is against it. And here MC wants it.
Secondly, yes, it's a lack of division on the path. But probably such choices will still be on all paths.
It's not consent if someone is pressured into stuff, there is no excuse for how the Officer acts. She repeatedly tries to take advantage of the situations Ashe finds herself in (which all entail her imposing her physical superiority and/or abusing her position of authority) to push her into giving up her resistance. Even if someone is caving in after being subjected to that sort of bullshit repeatedly it's at best a highly dubious form of consent. You are free to have a different opinion on that matter of course but you aren't going to change mine, no offense.
 

Kontralta

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It's not consent if someone is pressured into stuff, there is no excuse for how the Officer acts. She repeatedly tries to take advantage of the situations Ashe finds herself in (which all entail her imposing her physical superiority and/or abusing her position of authority) to push her into giving up her resistance. Even if someone is caving in after being subjected to that sort of bullshit repeatedly it's at best a highly dubious form of consent. You are free to have a different opinion on that matter of course but you aren't going to change mine, no offense.
Natasha never forced Ashe to do anything dirty. Even when she found drugs. Natasha took advantage of the situation, yes, but it only happened if Ashe agreed to it herself, because there was always the option to refuse.
This is not about opinion, but about the fact that you call things incorrectly.
 

Birdnman993

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The great duality of this game for me and I believe it is without a doubt Siren and Kitty, on one hand I want to see a more confident Ashe being able to have relationships and being the active part of them.

On the other hand I can't help but see the appeal in seeing Ashe giving pleasure to a bunch of cocks in threes, seasoned with some humiliation.

In short, expectations for the next release are high, because you could say that the content so far has only been the setup of the story and now comes the real beginning.
 
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TheMagister

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Is it safe to say that Cleo is the one Ashe despises the most? There isn't a single line(that I remember), dream sequence or anything else that hints that Ashe has any attraction towards her. Even Natasha, Moira and Jessica are shown as options to Ashe in some scenes.
Ashe has fantasised about Cleo cucking her with her sister. From what I know, the only 'main' character Ashe hasn't fantasised about is Isabella.
 

TheLecher

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From what I know, the only 'main' character Ashe hasn't fantasised about is Isabella.
Depending on player choices, there is also an optional sexual fantasy involving Ashe and Isabella.

Also, strictly speaking, Isabella isn't one of the main characters, since the developer has stated that there are five main characters (other than the MC) who will feature prominently in all paths, and they are Rachel, Evelyn, Fiona, Delilah, and Vanessa.
 
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