VN Ren'Py Eruption Imminent [v0.5.1] [MorriganRae]

[Ciaran8023]

Submissive isn't a fetish or sexual outlook?

I view the Kitten route as not a sexual type of submissiveness, but one stemming from anxiety issues and a natural avoidance of confrontation, meaning that she doesn't actually get off from the act of being submissive but moreso the sexual situations she finds herself in if that makes sense and she doesn't have the experience or courage to be more 'active'.

If she was submissive in a fetishistic sense then she wouldn't have taken charge when it came to Zoey for example. Of course this is just how I percieve things, but it makes more sense than saying that the Kitten route is centered around a sexual outlook on submissiveness.

EDIT- also yes, submissiveness can absolutely be a fetish or a complete sexual outlook, just figured I'd point out that I'm not disagreeing with what you're saying - but simply that I don't feel like that specific fetish is what the Kitten route revolves around.

 

[Buletti]

Does anybody know where the preview Pic 6 is taken from? I am playing the kitten route as well as the cuck route and I don't recall seing Ashe in a submissive pose like that.

Could you please tell me what scene that is and how to get there?

Thank you kindly!

Edit: same with pic 15. Looks like the cuck route to me. But I also seem to have missed that scene.

 

[manscout]

Does anybody know where the preview Pic 6 is taken from? I am playing the kitten route as well as the cuck route and I don't recall seing Ashe in a submissive pose like that.

Could you please tell me what scene that is and how to get there?

Thank you kindly!

Edit: same with pic 15. Looks like the cuck route to me. But I also seem to have missed that scene.

Both of those are just early game renders, pic 6 you can't miss, you just forgot about it, it is just a part of the scene where Ashe is in her room feeling embarassed that her mom caught her masturbating in the living room in day 2.

Pic 15 is part of the scene if you chose the gangbang porn as what Ashe chose to watch on day 2.

 

[manscout]

Fiona definitely leans towards being portrayed as a top, I just wouldn't say her dynamics with Ashe are a certainty that she will be an exclusive top. I see no reason so far why some ocasional switching couldn't happen, but I guess it still remains to be seen if that will pan out since there have been no scenes so far where Fiona was focused on servicing Ashe's cock (no indication she is in anyway grossed out by it, but she hasn't really given it any personal attention yet). But I stand that it is still too early in the story to take anything conclusive from that.

I feel the two main hooks of the early game are the incest relationships and the relationship with Fiona. The first are more geared for a "siren" playthrough while the latter is more geared for a "kitten" playthrough, but not in a mutually exclusive way imo and I like both, so I'd really hate to see the game make it impossible to enjoy both dynamics and also worsen the content for both routes because of route-split BS.

 

[Buletti]

Both of those are just early game renders, pic 6 you can't miss, you just forgot about it, it is just a part of the scene where Ashe is in her room feeling embarassed that her mom caught her masturbating in the living room in day 2.

Pic 15 is part of the scene if you chose the gangbang porn as what Ashe chose to watch on day 2.

Thx a lot mate! Man, day 2 seems centuries ago... Might go back to check it out again The VN is still worth it.

 

[Alley_Cat]

Not sure about most popular, it's the most "vanilla" out of them as in it doesn't cater to a specific fetish or outlook like Siren or the CQ route does, but I also just think that the dev has a specific vision for each of the characters and Kitten is just the 'default' of that vision.

Also yeah, I've always viewed Fiona as being written as a friendly 'dude-bro' type of character that's definitely geared towards being a top. I mean she's basically a gender-twisted variant of every MC's best friend in these types of games, maybe a bit more feminine but definitely still someone who'd absolutely talk about tits and ass at any given moment should the opportunity present itself.

Well, let me put it this way ... the way the render requests are set up, if RapeCop is done one time, it's Fiona the next. And then RapeCop again. So for someone like me that likes who I see as the actual LIs of the game, like Evelyn, Rachel, Vanessa, etc, there's no real point in being a supporter. I get shouted down each time.

 

[SizeQueenShrine]

IIRC the dev initially made this 3 branch approach to avoid having to deal with more "branches" so it seems exceedingly unlikely that there will be 3 different blackmailers.

But still, it is possible. And if nobody expects that, I guess that gives the game more surprise potential and adds something to replayability. It would be wasted potential, if in every 3 routes blackmail would be executed almost in the same manner.

Ashe-Siren may bother other party than Ashe-Kitten or Cuck-Ashe from story point of view. It would be fun to speculate some more, and suspect's reasoning would get extra layer for motivation. "Dare requests" could be different, depending on active alpha dick/passive beta pussy preference. Right now dare requests are mixed: put plug in your ass (passive), try to fuck Vanessa (active). Blackmailer can try to veer Ashe from or towards being dominant or submissive.

Besides, "3 blackmailers theory" has that nice ring to JFK second shooter debate. It would be fun to ramp up some more conspiracy thinking in duplo discrimination plot.

I also have a sneaking suspicion that the 'resolution' of the blackmail arc won't be especially satisfying given what Ashe has gone through at the hands of the blackmailer, but that's just me extrapolating from how the game has unfolded thus far so it's more like a working theory.

Well, that's up to original creator. It can be satisfying or inconsequential or maybe it's gonna ignite chain of events which will segway into something memorable. We don't know if blackmail creates main brackets of the story or is just an introduction and main arc didn't started yet or is only barely brushed in Ashe's dream sequences.

 

[MadfireMonkey]

Fiona definitely leans towards being portrayed as a top, I just wouldn't say her dynamics with Ashe are a certainty that she will be an exclusive top. I see no reason so far why some ocasional switching couldn't happen, but I guess it still remains to be seen if that will pan out since there have been no scenes so far where Fiona was focused on servicing Ashe's cock (no indication she is in anyway grossed out by it, but she hasn't really given it any personal attention yet). But I stand that it is still too early in the story to take anything conclusive from that.

I feel the two main hooks of the early game are the incest relationships and the relationship with Fiona. The first are more geared for a "siren" playthrough while the latter is more geared for a "kitten" playthrough, but not in a mutually exclusive way imo and I like both, so I'd really hate to see the game make it impossible to enjoy both dynamics and also worsen the content for both routes because of route-split BS.

I feel like the dream Ashe has with her and Fiona as fantasy characters is a tease that Ashe will fuck Fiona and she will end up liking it

 

[Ciaran8023]

I feel like the dream Ashe has with her and Fiona as fantasy characters is a tease that Ashe will fuck Fiona and she will end up liking it

I mean, I'm not saying that you shouldn't get your hopes up, but I think I can count the amount of games that have used fantasies as a tease for future content on one hand, and I've been playing AVN's for years.
I definitely wouldn't say that it's in any way a sure thing, so you should probably not expect it solely from that.

 

[Birdnman993]

On pointing to the blackmailer issue:

Don't forget it's interactive game. It's already going into 3 divergent paths.

If creator would like to bait us or feed us properly with multifacet red herrings and shit, natural decision would be to point in 3 different directions.

Just imagine that in Kitten route the big reveal could point to someone else than in Cuckquean route or Siren. We could get 3 distinctively different blackmailers, depending on our game style choice.

Perhaps in the alpha route Delilah would become the blackmailer and ultimate showdown will be concluded in serious duplo-dicking and bitch-slapping her with futa-cock for her misbehaviour and/or finishing love route with her. But in other scenarios, when playing sexually passive Ashe, someone more dominant could fill that role. Because why not?

Overcoming the blackmail should serve some story purposes anyway, perhaps even accepting sexual roles Ashe takes through the game, so blackmailer persona could be a catalyst tied-in with these choices. This way more gamers' suspicions could turn out true.

On new update:

Yay, I'm bought. Cuckquen future looks especially bright:
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It is a very interesting idea, it would give a unique touch to each route, but I doubt it because if something has shown the last updates is that the story follows a single path, but with different variations in each route, it is events that we will go through.

 

[songlick]

I must say i tried this but the blackmailer is basically THE main story, also rapey cop is kinda spoils it a lot, it's just a catastrophy looming over the whole thing. This thing must be a LOT more niche than I would have thought when starting it, i mean it must hopefully be a very very tiny part of the general population that actually gets off by these things... a pity, otherwise it had some decent things.

 

[Alley_Cat]

I must say i tried this but the blackmailer is basically THE main story, also rapey cop is kinda spoils it a lot, it's just a catastrophy looming over the whole thing. This thing must be a LOT more niche than I would have thought when starting it, i mean it must hopefully be a very very tiny part of the general population that actually gets off by these things... a pity, otherwise it had some decent things.

RapeCop is more or less why I stopped supporting Morri. RapeCop and sons as LIs are two reasons I've experienced not to support a dev

 

[xeivous]

I'd argue that the main story is supposed to be Ashe's journey towards dealing with her shit and figuring herself out and the blackmailer thing is something of an unnecessary extra ball being juggled unless it ties into whoever is mad at Vanessa and that turns into a bigger thing that Ashe gets sucked into and has to deal with dominating her life when she's already struggling with herself and actively working on that for once after a year of mostly nothing due to her incident with her twin. Rapecop, as annoying as she is, is at least pretty much just a part of one or two of the routes.

 

[netcov]

Interesting plot so far. (Ver. 0.5)

Spoiler: About the Blackmailer

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Spoiler: About Routes and Character Development

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Some feedback for the Dev:
I'd appreciate something akin to a counter (which day are we on) or maybe even somekind of log/journal to summarize some events like in bullet point format.

 

[Alley_Cat]

I must say i tried this but the blackmailer is basically THE main story, also rapey cop is kinda spoils it a lot, it's just a catastrophy looming over the whole thing. This thing must be a LOT more niche than I would have thought when starting it, i mean it must hopefully be a very very tiny part of the general population that actually gets off by these things... a pity, otherwise it had some decent things.

RapeCop spoils everything. Can't support a project with RapeCop

 

[netcov]

Forgot to add this about the siren route

Spoiler: Re: Siren Route

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[Buletti]

I'd argue that the main story is supposed to be Ashe's journey towards dealing with her shit and figuring herself out and the blackmailer thing is something of an unnecessary extra ball being juggled unless it ties into whoever is mad at Vanessa and that turns into a bigger thing that Ashe gets sucked into and has to deal with dominating her life when she's already struggling with herself and actively working on that for once after a year of mostly nothing due to her incident with her twin. Rapecop, as annoying as she is, is at least pretty much just a part of one or two of the routes.

I personally think both the blackmailer and Natascha are a great addition to the plot. The way they are used to add more suspense to Ashes otherwise 'normal' quiet really make the story and writing stand out.

Without those two subplots the story would be too muted imho.

I am still not 100% certain that Delilah is the blackmailer even though 5.0 is hinting to it even stronger. On the one hand it would be too easy and I think the dev is too clever to go for this easy Option. On the other I think the hints are so strong that it must be her and I am curious how the relation between Ashe and her will develop in the future.

 

[LordWanze]

I personally think both the blackmailer and Natascha are a great addition to the plot. The way they are used to add more suspense to Ashes otherwise 'normal' quiet really make the story and writing stand out.

Without those two subplots the story would be too muted imho.

I am still not 100% certain that Delilah is the blackmailer even though 5.0 is hinting to it even stronger. On the one hand it would be too easy and I think the dev is too clever to go for this easy Option. On the other I think the hints are so strong that it must be her and I am curious how the relation between Ashe and her will develop in the future.

I disagree on the BM side. Both being forced as a player and as a character ruins a lot of the work she does on herself throughout the episodes to become a grounded person. It also goes against the players choices regarding the branch, which was especially annoying for me. I really hope this gets resolved very soon and the story comes back to the MC finding her way.
I don't think Moira is behind the blackmail, I doubt she has already enough interest in the MC from one meeting to consider her important enough. She would probably use her leverage more direct to influence Vanessa. And why would she make such a fuss about staying anonym? She couldn't possibly think that the MC can be any kind of threat to her.
Delilah is probably an accomplice of the actual blackmailer, which I hate because she was one of my favorite LIs and that would ruin her completely.

Natasha is an instrument to give the player the chance to steer the MC into the direction they want. I like her quite a lot as an antagonist. She is too rapy for a lot of players, others like her because of that. She polarizes. But so far the player could always intervene. We'll see how far her threats come true if the MC refuses to give into her. My prediction is that she will be somewhat forceful towards kitten branches and maybe some kind of abusive lover for LIs on the QC ones. And hopefully at least fully avoidable on the siren branches.

 

[meh123456789]

RapeCop spoils everything. Can't support a project with RapeCop

Are you guys crazy? The dynamic between Natasha and Ashe (and Rachel) is incredibly hot. It's by far the hottest thing in this very hot game.

 

[songlick]

Without those two subplots the story would be too muted imho.

This sentence is right, some actual plot would be required then I guess.
Especially the blackmail thing is not a subplot, but cop either, they are so big that they can basically make someone kill themselves over unless there's a solution. I would say the obvious solution is there is overwhelming evidence to just go to police with both, I mean ok it's a fantasy world but it doesn't mean it shouldn't be something relatively believable in the given setting. It just completely ruined it and made it unplayable for me that the main character is basically raped by these two and there's nothing you can do. Such a situation, being unavoidable, is critically dangerous mental state territory even to a normally healthy person not to mention someone with issues like Mc.
Rape is not sexy for me sorry... it's not a kink it just disgusting.