Buletti

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Looks like no one postet so far. So don't mind if I do:


Hey everyone
I've made decent progress with renders this week. Here are the stats:
  • Writing: 100%
  • Coding: 90%
  • Environments: 75%
  • New Characters: 7/7
  • Background Characters: 18/40
  • Renders: 21%
    • Part 1 (9:00pm): 750/840
    • Part 2 (10:00pm): 0/360
    • Part 3 (11:00pm): 0/550
    • Part 4 (12:30am): 0/750
    • Part 5 (2:00am): 0/500
    • Part 6 (3:00am): 0/600
  • Music/Sound: 0%
  • Testing/Polish: 0%
Release date estimate: July/August 2025

The last scene of Part 1 needs a few more renders than I initially estimated. That scene is the biggest one in the game so far (400+ renders). Mostly because of the many variations on how it can play out. There's around 5 big ways how to go through it, with many smaller variations within. Or... you can just skip it pretty much entirely . It's definitely the most complex scene in the game up to this point (in terms of variables/conditions).

I'm hoping to finish Part 1 very soon. Part 2 will have some smaller, but very fun scenes within, and also some of the more "experimental" sections that I've hinted at a while ago. I'm excited to get to it .

❤ Enjoy your weekend! ❤
 

ItsNotUs

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May 14, 2023
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Looks like no one postet so far. So don't mind if I do:


Hey everyone
I've made decent progress with renders this week. Here are the stats:
  • Writing: 100%
  • Coding: 90%
  • Environments: 75%
  • New Characters: 7/7
  • Background Characters: 18/40
  • Renders: 21%
    • Part 1 (9:00pm): 750/840
    • Part 2 (10:00pm): 0/360
    • Part 3 (11:00pm): 0/550
    • Part 4 (12:30am): 0/750
    • Part 5 (2:00am): 0/500
    • Part 6 (3:00am): 0/600
  • Music/Sound: 0%
  • Testing/Polish: 0%
Release date estimate: July/August 2025

The last scene of Part 1 needs a few more renders than I initially estimated. That scene is the biggest one in the game so far (400+ renders). Mostly because of the many variations on how it can play out. There's around 5 big ways how to go through it, with many smaller variations within. Or... you can just skip it pretty much entirely . It's definitely the most complex scene in the game up to this point (in terms of variables/conditions).

I'm hoping to finish Part 1 very soon. Part 2 will have some smaller, but very fun scenes within, and also some of the more "experimental" sections that I've hinted at a while ago. I'm excited to get to it .

❤ Enjoy your weekend! ❤
160 renders per week is 22+- renders per day and to make it by the end of August, dev need to do 25 renders per day...
 

AdaWongLina

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Episode 6 - Progress Report #23
Hey everyone
I've made decent progress with renders this week. Here are the stats:
  • Writing: 100%
  • Coding: 90%
  • Environments: 75%
  • New Characters: 7/7
  • Background Characters: 18/40
  • Renders: 21%
    • Part 1 (9:00pm): 750/840
    • Part 2 (10:00pm): 0/360
    • Part 3 (11:00pm): 0/550
    • Part 4 (12:30am): 0/750
    • Part 5 (2:00am): 0/500
    • Part 6 (3:00am): 0/600
  • Music/Sound: 0%
  • Testing/Polish: 0%

Release date estimate: July/August 2025
The last scene of Part 1 needs a few more renders than I initially estimated. That scene is the biggest one in the game so far (400+ renders). Mostly because of the many variations on how it can play out. There's around 5 big ways how to go through it, with many smaller variations within. Or... you can just skip it pretty much entirely :). It's definitely the most complex scene in the game up to this point (in terms of variables/conditions).
I'm hoping to finish Part 1 very soon. Part 2 will have some smaller, but very fun scenes within, and also some of the more "experimental" sections that I've hinted at a while ago. I'm excited to get to it :giggle: .

❤ Enjoy your weekend! ❤

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pitao

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I feel like we don't need two people posting the update notes every time
That is a redundancy that doesn't bother me at all, better 2 of them than none, was better if was more spaced in between though hehe would make less inquires about the state of the game. Even though most of those posters that keep asking "update when" or "any update news" usually don't even bother to read latest posts haha.
 

Doner077

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There is already a person doubting the planed release date but i want to reitirate nevertheless. Either dev has like a secret strategy for the polishing phase or the game is gonna come out in September. I wouldnt accuse the dev of lying or anything similar to that, i mean they are updating their numbers and all, giving us knowingly the ability calculate when the renders should be done, so they have a plan to finish the game on time i assume. But if the renders getting +%5 / +200 every week continues like this, theyre gonna be done in 4 months. Meanwhile the music, background characters and after that polishing should be done within this time frame too. So its just better to think about it like this update will gonna come after summer. Hope for the best, prepare for the worst
 
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OneWayMissile

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There is already a person doubting the planed release date but i want to reitirate nevertheless. Either dev has like a secret strategy for the polishing phase or the game is gonna come out in September. I wouldnt accuse the dev of lying or anything similar to that, i mean they are updating their numbers and all giving us knowingly the ability calculate when the renders should be done, so they have a plan to finish the game on time i assume. But if the renders getting +%5 / +200 every week continues like this, theyre gonna be done in 4 months. Meanwhile the music, background characters and after that polishing should be done within this time frame too. So its just better to think about it like this update will gonna come after summer. Hope for the best, prepare for the worst
11 months for an update lol but sadly seems to be the way if you actually calculate the numbers
 

ItsNotUs

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May 14, 2023
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There is already a person doubting the planed release date but i want to reitirate nevertheless. Either dev has like a secret strategy for the polishing phase or the game is gonna come out in September. I wouldnt accuse the dev of lying or anything similar to that, i mean they are updating their numbers and all, giving us knowingly the ability calculate when the renders should be done, so they have a plan to finish the game on time i assume. But if the renders getting +%5 / +200 every week continues like this, theyre gonna be done in 4 months. Meanwhile the music, background characters and after that polishing should be done within this time frame too. So its just better to think about it like this update will gonna come after summer. Hope for the best, prepare for the worst
This is not a doubt, but rather a healthy skepticism!
The dev are open and it's true, dev himself said that with the new PC the rendering time has decreased to 25-30 minutes per frame, considering that his average number this week was 22 renders per day, that's 9+ hours just for renders! I don't know, maybe the dev has a second PC on which he processes finished renders and does other work in parallel, post work and ect., but even according to the raw counter he won't make it to his deadline (July/August)!

I am not trying to accuse dev in any way!
He needs to work a lot to release an update by the END of August, i already wrote about this above, but he is a living person, he cannot work like this 24/7 for 4 months! But even if he does, imagine his fatigue after such a marathon. Tired, burnout and ect., then he will take a long long break to rest after the update is released and we will wait again, again, and again...
It's a vicious circle!
There are too many examples of similar cases where the dev went from releasing every 2-3 months to releasing once a year!
And this dev "was famous" for releasing 3 updates per year with a lot of high-quality content!

I would like to emphasize that i am not criticizing, but i just want people and the dev himself to look at things "soberly"!
 

Buletti

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Nov 7, 2023
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This is not a doubt, but rather a healthy skepticism!
The dev are open and it's true, dev himself said that with the new PC the rendering time has decreased to 25-30 minutes per frame, considering that his average number this week was 22 renders per day, that's 9+ hours just for renders! I don't know, maybe the dev has a second PC on which he processes finished renders and does other work in parallel, post work and ect., but even according to the raw counter he won't make it to his deadline (July/August)!

I am not trying to accuse dev in any way!
He needs to work a lot to release an update by the END of August, i already wrote about this above, but he is a living person, he cannot work like this 24/7 for 4 months! But even if he does, imagine his fatigue after such a marathon. Tired, burnout and ect., then he will take a long long break to rest after the update is released and we will wait again, again, and again...
It's a vicious circle!
There are too many examples of similar cases where the dev went from releasing every 2-3 months to releasing once a year!
And this dev "was famous" for releasing 3 updates per year with a lot of high-quality content!

I would like to emphasize that i am not criticizing, but i just want people and the dev himself to look at things "soberly"!
The dev said that this specific update with the party will be a huge undertaking because they want to try out something they have never done and would get back to "normal" Production routine Afterwards.

So I don't think there is any reason to try to generalise anything from this update.
 
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ItsNotUs

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The dev said that this specific update with the party will be a huge undertaking because they want to try out something they have never done and would get back to "normal" Production routine Afterwards.

So I don't think there is any reason to try to generalise anything from this update.
I read this too, but only time will tell. We can return to this topic after this update is released and when we have a new change log or a dev post about a "new" update.
 

Jafo

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Hey everyone

I've spent this week working on more renders and some background characters as well . Part 1 is finally finished and I'm currently working on a scene with a lot of background characters. I had to change some things in my workflow again, with how I deal with these background characters. It's been quite a technical challenge to figure out how to make crowded scenes like that. I've made some progress in this regard, but I'm still improving here.
Anyways, here are the progress stats:

Writing: 100%
Coding: 90%
Environments: 75%
New Characters: 7/7
Background Characters: 24/40
Renders: 26%
Part 1 (9:00pm): 852/852
Part 2 (10:00pm): 75/360
Part 3 (11:00pm): 0/550
Part 4 (12:30am): 0/750
Part 5 (2:00am): 0/500
Part 6 (3:00am): 0/600
Music/Sound: 0%
Testing/Polish: 0%

Release date estimate: July/August 2025

If you're interested in how the whole background character workflow looks like: Basically, I first create characters normally (although with much less time spent on them compared to the main characters). I have created reusable skin textures in 12 different skin tones, and then created 2 sets per tone in different resolutions. So when I work on a scene I place a group of background characters and pose them accordingly. After that I go through each character and use a (very buggy ) tool to lower their mesh resolution, with the final resolution depending on how far away they are from the camera. I apply the low-res skin textures and export the figure as an object.

The export lowers file size but means I can no longer pose the figure. I import it again as an object, adjust some textures and save it as a reusable, finalized prop. Et voilà, I have a low-res prop of a background character that I can use in scenes. There's a little more things in there that I left out, but that's the gist of it.

Now, as you can see there's still quite some time spent on each background character, but the good thing is, once I have the prop I can reuse them in later scenes again. I just have to make sure the pose and resolution fits for what I'm using it for.

I'm also still trying to finesse how low I have to go with the resolution for optimal performance and whatnot. Also, some hair and clothes don't work well when lowering resolution, so there's a lot of trial and error involved still. But I'm confident that it's getting easier and faster the more I progress with the renders.

❤ Enjoy your weekend! And thank you for your support! ❤
 
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