That is the part that baffles me, complaining about the crowd disliking Natasha & calling her a rape cop supposedly mixing fiction & reality but they are the ones freaking out on behalf of a fictional character when there is no point in even commenting on other people's personal opinion on this game.
Welp, sorry to disappoint you. It is inevitable that someone is going to make the same rape cop posts over and over and over and accuse everyone else of being rapists and rape apologists, and if you say anything, he's going to post it 75 more times and completely shit up the thread.Well I know what this thread gonna be talking about for the next dev cycle
Oh too late, it's already happening.
I also find Rachel quite unlikable, but that sadly goes for most of the "Love" Interests at this point in time, they all are really selfish and uncaring pricks, to varying degrees. Delilah may or may not be an exception, I don't have too much faith anymore.
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haha Vanessa and Rachael are the most likeable LI for me in this game unless the update changes my mind i'd put those 2 characters probably around my top 25 maybe slightly lower
Edit : Fiona I dont see as a LI but a friend but yeah Fiona is probably the best character in the game
Edit : Fiona I dont see as a LI but a friend but yeah Fiona is probably the best character in the game
Which is the exact point. Rachel couldn't trust herself to be around Ashe without doing something she'd regret. She knew that if she didn't effectively destroy that trust then she was gonna end up barefoot and pregnant with her twin sister's baby.
Although yes we will disagree on this. She's a top 3 character for me in this game along with her mom and Fiona.
Oh Fiona is really nice, definitely, just 0 appeal as a LI to me personally & also not attractive, again simply personal opinion ofc.
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Yeah I kind of delved into this earlier, the only two characters that tend to respect the "give" part of a give and take relationship seems to be Delilah and Fiona.I also find Rachel quite unlikable, but that sadly goes for most of the "Love" Interests at this point in time, they all are really selfish and uncaring pricks, to varying degrees. Delilah may or may not be an exception, I don't have too much faith anymore.
Personally not really into Delilah, and Fiona is mainly just a friend in my eyes as Ashe lacks friends, so it's a bit of an awkward scenario for me.
But that doesn't make sense either, because Rachel hasn't given any strong indication that she would somehow lack the self-discipline to just say no. Her actions when she's fucking hammered doesn't mean that she would take the same actions when she's sober.
She clearly had the balls to try to act as if nothing happened and to shut down attempts to talk after an entire year of complete silence, so she clearly has the balls to deny Ashe, which makes her decision even more baffling.
Moreover, literally no scenario has the only solution being "destroy the trust and the relationship". There's a thing called drawing a boundary, which she could and should have done, yet chose not to.
Yeah, agree to disagree since we won't see eye to eye on this, Rachel is irredeemable to me personally given the context of the situation. I wish I had the option to tell her to fuck off during their little make up meeting honestly.
Call me crazy but Idk I can rly see it happenning. Fiona isn't like the cop, honestly I only see the comp takin f we blackmail her or use the aphrodisiac drug on her lol.
However, Fiona is a different case she seemed more vanilla than anything honestly. If dev/s make it so she never takes it then I hope that as Ash grows, she actually asks for it and if Fiona refuses. Then we'd receive a choice to end things with her.
Don't forget that they are not men they are futas, you can't compare both. I'm hoping that we actually play a bit of a "corruption game" with Fiona. Like every time she tries to do smt to us we'd play with her ass, insert a finger, tongue, play with her prostate... slowly but surely giving her a taste of the forbidden fruit lol.
I still hope we'll dom her wether it be by receiving it or giving though.
As a duplo dom it's our duty to show the strenght and supremacy of duplos in both femdom and futadoms lol
I mean now we have multiple subjects on the thread it's quite entertaining to be honest
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Of course, they aren't men though Fiona just comes off as more of a "dude-bro" type of character and not really feminine. Though that being said, if it was to happen, I think what you said would make the most sense in that it would have to be slowly done over multiple updates, though even then I wouldn't be surprised if Fiona just wouldn't allow it.
It's all up to the whim of the dev and we know that the dev doesn't shy away from doing what they want. Guess we'll just have to wait and see.
Which is the exact tell I needed to come to that understanding. She cut Ashe off completely. Why would she cut Ashe off completely? The game has done a very thorough job of telegraphing that Rachel is attracted to Ashe so why would she cut her off? Because she knew that was the only way that she would actually not end up with Ashe. It's not even a case of being able to deny her, she didn't trust herself to not make the move on Ashe herself.
I honestly don't see the prblm with calling her rapey when she's in fact rapey lol. Smt ppl need to vent, let's just let them, I don't see where the prblm is as long as they don't judge others for liking her.
Like you said she's a fiction character let's let them trash her where's the prblm lol.
It's like when some ppl wished to give it to Fiona and ppl (mostly sub path guys I'd assume) went crazy. "No Fiona isn't supposed to take" "she can only dom", "she'll never take it". HOW THE HELL WOULD YOU KNOW THAT, DID THE DEV MAKE A STATEMENT ABT IT? IF SO THEN WHY DON'T YOU DIRECTLY TELL US DEV SAID THAT INSTEAD OF TRASHING PPL.
Damn let ppl have some hope, yeah I may have used your com to vent myself lol
I think I may have overdone it with the capital letter but idk It felt like it hit harder lol
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How has the game done anything to telegraph that she's attracted to Ashe other than coming on to her while being absolutely hammered? Just to let you know, decisions made while being heavily intoxicated aren't exactly rooted in reason or even attraction for that matter, it's rooted in impulse.
None of that points towards Rachel being so ungodly infatuated that she would be incapable of controlling herself and would self-ignite like a proverbial moth to the flame.
But let's say hypothetically that you're right, why the fuck would she try to even contact Ashe after she got back? When she has literally zero knowledge whether or not Ashe is over her, and also have zero knowledge whether or not Ashe would even talk to her, why decide to get back in touch?
It doesn't make sense for your point of view because it's literally just throwing what she did into the trash, which means that she ended up basically destroying Ashe for a long period of time for absolutely no gain because she put herself in the fucking situation again.
Actually this makes me even more mad at Rachel in that case, if she's so absolutely inept at self-control, she should have not gotten close to Ashe again at all.
You might have started out with trying to defend Rachel's actions as the right thing to do, but you somehow managed to make her look even worse actually.
Yeah, I don't get it either. It's as you say she does come across like someone who's more likely to be a rapist than not. I won't go over every detail again, since I had that discussion a few months ago with 1 or 2 of those people who seem to suffer a mental breakdown every time anyone dares to harshly critique Natasha's inexcusable antics but long story short: She's in a position of power & Ashe has absolutely no reason to assume she'd have a choice and that the cop would respect a 'no'. Also Natasha only approaches her in situations where Ashe is threatened by her. Now is there anything wrong with liking Natasha in this game & finding her interactions with Ashe hot? Of course not, but people really need to stop and try defend those actions cause in reality they'd be criminal offenses in many places and on top of that it doesn't matter if this is a game or reality, the difference is a fictional character acting immoral doesn't translate into a real life issue but it doesn't make the behavior itself any more acceptable in a general sense.
Edit: From what it seems the current update also quite literally proves everyone calling her a rape cop & pointing out that she won't accept a 'no' and that she's indeed consciously trying to force herself on Ashe via abusing her power as law enforcement literally right, so everyone arguing how she isn't either makes a complete fool out of themselves.
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. Downloading issues? Look here.I think this one thing where Rachel effectively destroyed Ashe's life, shattered her confidence and probably gave those anxiety issues where she thought she is less because of something Rachel initiated that day in the park, drunk of course, as pointed by you is completely true and I agree with it. And thing is even hammered when Rachel went to sleep, Ashe kept her senses and didn't proceed with anything because that would be violating, but instead of understanding the situation, Rachel went off on Ashe like she was responsible for it and said hurtful words, completely cut off contact for a year, ignored her after coming and instead its Ashe who had to put in effort at start. Your point is completely valid.
I don't know what to tell you if you aren't reading it from her implicitly. She's obviously got it pretty bad for her though. If nothing else she wouldn't have even been as bothered as she was if Ashe wasn't right about her feelings the next morning.
She hoped that a year away would've let both of their feelings cool off. She didn't go zero contact because then she'd have to explain it to Evelyn but she did her best to limit contact while nobody else was around. When they were alone she brushed off any attempt from Ashe to talk about it. She went about as low contact as she could without making it weird for everyone else around her.
Lol I don't give a shit about defending her or not. I'm not some white knight who needs to come to the fair maiden's rescue, I'm just pointing out that she's not as bad as your initial statement made her out to be. To be honest from what you said earlier I get the feeling that you're viewing her through the lens of your own trauma rather than the lens of Ashe's. In that case there's no way to change your mind about her and even if there was I honestly couldn't have cared to from my first response.
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Obviously?
There's no obviously about this. As I said, initiating something when you're hammered isn't indicative of anything other than being inebriated and moving on impulse, there has been no indication that she's somehow so down bad that she would pounce on her at any given second to somehow imply that she had to fuck Ashe up and disappear.
That goes against what you're trying to imply, if she is aware that she has such abysmal self-control that she had to destroy Ashe to get away, then she obviously knows that putting herself in the same situation will just lead to the same result yet again. If Rachel had any respect for Ashe, she never would have re-initated contact, this just paints her in the light of knowing that she did tremendously wrong by Ashe but then decides to just repeat the process and disrespecting her further by ignoring Ashe's attempts at a conversation.Mommysbuttslut said:
Like, you do realize how this is just horrendous behaviour? There is no justification for this shit.
Buddy, genuinely speaking, if you didn't care then you wouldn't post three posts with entire paragraphs about it. Arguing about something is caring about something whether you want it to be or not.Mommysbuttslut said:
And you're right, if your statements are correct then she's actually worse than what I had imagined in that case. I'm also not sure what type of reality that you live in, but getting betrayed by your only fixed point in life that you could depend upon that also happens to be your literal family isn't exactly something that requires trauma to get annoyed with, and then have her show up acting like nothing happened on top of that.
What Rachel did to Ashe is unbelievably disrespectful and toxic.
Yeah I've had a few lengthy discussions in this thread about this very subject, but somehow there are a lot of people who are vehemently defending Rachel as having done the right thing and not having done anything wrong, almost to the point of implying that Ashe was the one doing wrong by Rachel, to certain individuals I've argued with in the past.
I personally cannot fathom this stance, even though I'm usually able to view things from different perspectives, but people have hills to die upon it seems.
I will be that white knight for you and to help me with that I summon the selfcest cavalry lol
No srsly din't follow the whole argument. I honestly don't even remember the argument between futa Ashe and girl Ashe (yeah now it'll be stuck in your head I hope, if it wasn't ardy the case lol).
I just think character wise it was a good thing to do. Ash needed to outgrow how reliant she was on her sister so I think that argument was mostly beneficial to her.
I rly don't remember how it all happened though lol
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I flopped lol man I rly need to sleep
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I had no problems with gatekeeping some characters to certain paths, but the stupid Delilah story line is making me mald. Bruh Why dumb down the mc this much ? that part made it really stupid and bad for me.
great word play there. So mad it's making you go bald lol
I shall add this to my dictionary
Actually I just discovered it was a thing by searching it lol
Well you learn a new thing every day ig
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