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Uguei

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I enjoyed the update and the plot seems to be getting more and more interesting~

I wanted to give my thoughts on some things that were brought up in the discussion though:

My main playthrough is following the Siren Route, since i'm more into the dom-top thing, and tbh i'd agree with many of the comments here. I'm not really mad that Fiona ends up taking MC's bottom virginity, since i would've chosen that anyway, but it does feel like i should've been able to choose whether it happened or not.

Everyone that chose the Siren Route prefers being a top and a dom, so it makes sense that there would be a huge majority that wouldn't really like Ashe to be penetrated. It's very common for players to like being the one giving rather than receiving, regardless of the character. There are some that wouldn't be against oral and handjobs but would draw the line at that.

The argument of Fiona always being a top doesn't really mean much imo. She was also supposed to not be interested in futas but... we all know how that went. It also seems to me that most players expect Fiona to bottom eventually, so it doesn't seem far-fetched to think that we could get that outcome without Ashe bottoming first.

Something similar could end up happening in other routes, with voyeurs being forced to join the action on some scene -some people wouldn't like that and would prefer to keep the cuck/spying vibes, while other would think of it as a hot outcome to being caught- or Kittens being forced to engage in BDSM or having the dom play with Ashe's dick -Some people aren't into BDSM and some bottoms would prefer it to be exclusively pussy/ass-.

I understand that taking all this things into consideration is a lot of work for the dev, but understanding why some people disagree with the way the story/scene/route developed could be helpful for future updates. Most players aren't asking for special renders or scenes suited to their particular tastes, but it wouldn't be too much to ask for an option to skip/avoid such content.
 

Mommysbuttslut

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Did you just not comprehend what I typed? Yes, I do care about the discussion because you have to care about a discussion to partake in it, you absolute rube.
Or maybe I just like arguing? Again, like with the trauma thing, you're projecting your own feelings onto the other person. I don't give a single shit about your perspective, that's yours to express as you like, and believe it or not, I'm not trying to change your mind about anything. I'm just arguing about something that I felt you were wrong about. Not everyone takes everything as seriously as you or cares about everything as deeply as you.
as you clearly have no indication to even attempt to view things from any perspective other than pure defensiveness on Rachels part
That's kinda rich given my point above. You're projecting your own traumas into the Rachel situation and you're projecting your own emotions onto me in regards to this discussion. I'm perfectly capable of understanding your position, you couldn't wear your heart anymore on your sleeve. I just disagree with you.
 

Ciaran8023

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That's kinda rich given my point above. You're projecting your own traumas into the Rachel situation and you're projecting your own emotions onto me in regards to this discussion. I'm perfectly capable of understanding your position, you couldn't wear your heart anymore on your sleeve. I just disagree with you.
I won't reply further but I will point this out, never try to attribute trauma projection to what can equally attributed a reasonable amount of logic. At no point does anyone deserve to be accused of something like that when it's, quite clearly, not even remotely close to the truth.

As I said, I don't care that you vehemently defend your favourite character, you're free to interpret things however you like. That being said, be better, don't be this type of person who maliciously misattributes arguments. This just makes you seem like an absolute dipshit, respectfully.
 
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Ozygator

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I like the premise of the game I like futanari characters and she's a real futanari which is even cooler, but when I started following the story I got discourage, maybe it's because the game is still in the beging and I only went until the sleepover at Fiona's house, however the character is very submissive to other futanaris and some women, another thing is that to prevent the other futanaris from catching potentials li's the MC needs to take their place in sexual activities which gets a bit annoying, I don't want to the protagonist being a sub in order to avoid make any potential li's have any relationship with other futanari characters and finally what is discouraging is that all the futanari have a bigger penis than the protagonist and are more dominant as for the MC she is submissive, yes she have abig penis but other characters have a bigger one and we know that in those types of games the character with the biggest penis is the one who will steal and keep the li's. Who knows, maybe i will give another chance for the game in the future because I like futanari but so far I haven't had the desire to continue, but I wish the developer luck and hope that the game will be successful even though I don't really like the game so far, I want it to be successful because I'm tired of seeing games being abandoned and even more futanari games where there are few and are generally abandoned. And what heppen with the MC mentor just for curiosoty.
First of all, use punctuation, it's there for a reason (for people to want to even read this shit). Secondly, the option for the MC to be submissive is in the choices that YOU make as the player. There is a completely non0sub route for her, and if you don't see it , it's because you picked bad options.
 

doovel

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All things considered it is definitely a very good VN & the writing itself is very high quality, independent from my personal gripes with some aspects of the game and how certain things are handled.
It's certainly in the upper echelons. Sets an interesting world with a lot still left to discover. Like why people don't bow down to the superior futanari. Someone needs to kick down these big dicked monos a peg or two.

I like the premise of the game I like futanari characters and she's a real futanari which is even cooler, but when I started following the story I got discourage, maybe it's because the game is still in the beging and I only went until the sleepover at Fiona's house, however the character is very submissive to other futanaris and some women, another thing is that to prevent the other futanaris from catching potentials li's the MC needs to take their place in sexual activities which gets a bit annoying, I don't want to the protagonist being a sub in order to avoid make any potential li's have any relationship with other futanari characters and finally what is discouraging is that all the futanari have a bigger penis than the protagonist and are more dominant as for the MC she is submissive, yes she have abig penis but other characters have a bigger one and we know that in those types of games the character with the biggest penis is the one who will steal and keep the li's. Who knows, maybe i will give another chance for the game in the future because I like futanari but so far I haven't had the desire to continue, but I wish the developer luck and hope that the game will be successful even though I don't really like the game so far, I want it to be successful because I'm tired of seeing games being abandoned and even more futanari games where there are few and are generally abandoned. And what heppen with the MC mentor just for curiosoty.
That's why there are 3 routes, even if I don't think the dev is doing the siren route justice at the moment. That is technically the idea.

On the dick size, we can only hope for Eruption Imminent two: Natasha's superior sister, who's taller, has an even bigger dick and actually knows how to use it. (And properly dom)

Game currently has a lot of support both financially as well as socially, so I suspect Morrigan will keep trucking on.

I enjoyed the update and the plot seems to be getting more and more interesting~

I wanted to give my thoughts on some things that were brought up in the discussion though:

My main playthrough is following the Siren Route, since i'm more into the dom-top thing, and tbh i'd agree with many of the comments here. I'm not really mad that Fiona ends up taking MC's bottom virginity, since i would've chosen that anyway, but it does feel like i should've been able to choose whether it happened or not.

Everyone that chose the Siren Route prefers being a top and a dom, so it makes sense that there would be a huge majority that wouldn't really like Ashe to be penetrated. It's very common for players to like being the one giving rather than receiving, regardless of the character. There are some that wouldn't be against oral and handjobs but would draw the line at that.

The argument of Fiona always being a top doesn't really mean much imo. She was also supposed to not be interested in futas but... we all know how that went. It also seems to me that most players expect Fiona to bottom eventually, so it doesn't seem far-fetched to think that we could get that outcome without Ashe bottoming first.

Something similar could end up happening in other routes, with voyeurs being forced to join the action on some scene -some people wouldn't like that and would prefer to keep the cuck/spying vibes, while other would think of it as a hot outcome to being caught- or Kittens being forced to engage in BDSM or having the dom play with Ashe's dick -Some people aren't into BDSM and some bottoms would prefer it to be exclusively pussy/ass-.

I understand that taking all this things into consideration is a lot of work for the dev, but understanding why some people disagree with the way the story/scene/route developed could be helpful for future updates. Most players aren't asking for special renders or scenes suited to their particular tastes, but it wouldn't be too much to ask for an option to skip/avoid such content.
I brought this up with the dev, unfortunately they're unreceptive to allowing the choice. Personally I might have even pressed yes on the choice had it been there. The lack of choice made it rather daunting. Went from a "I might be open to this" to "wtf are you doing to me".

In addition it's also quite silly that this all stems from a dual jerk-off session scene in which you make the choice by "looking at Fiona" or "focusing on the screen". I don't want to keep beating a dead horse, but like you said. A simple reset to platonic would've sufficed.
 

doovel

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First of all, use punctuation, it's there for a reason (for people to want to even read this shit). Secondly, the option for the MC to be submissive is in the choices that YOU make as the player. There is a completely non0sub route for her, and if you don't see it , it's because you picked bad options.
With how the blackmail goes in this game, I wouldn't label the route non-sub. It's unavoidable and you're really letting some anonymous stranger dictate terms to you. You go along with far too much and you're not really trying to play them either. Which would reduce the issue significantly.
 

jamouyi

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How the fuck is GoFile slow for you? It's simply the best one for free users. I download big asf archives at fast speeds.
prob where you live, but i live in the virgin island and that shit slow. gonna get starlink soon so i hope it is a lot better than the garbage local internet provider im paying for.
 

Ozygator

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With how the blackmail goes in this game, I wouldn't label the route non-sub. It's unavoidable and you're really letting some anonymous stranger dictate terms to you. You go along with far too much and you're not really trying to play them either. Which would reduce the issue significantly.
True.

I hadn't completed the newest update, but having done so now it's clear that the dev will force the MC to be a sub, in some capacity, regardless of the player choices.

Not only in the blackmail, but also the fact that the MC's BFF is set up to be an actual 'alpha' and nothing in the story changes that, especially when the MC get's fucked like a bitch by the BFF and not the other way around. The 'true alpha' of the story is the BFF, not the MC. Even on the supposed siren/alpha route the 'mentor' and probably the 'roommate' will be fucked by the BFF, or someone else, first in the story instead of the MC.

Unfortunately, those who want an actual alpha MC at this point are better to ignore, or stop supporting the game at this point, IMHO. This update makes it crystal clear that the MC will never be a true alpha when she's already done multiple sub actions, that prove this is not the path the dev intends to actually, fully implement.
 
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Julles Ra

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Like I said, rape apologists and sexual harassment apologists are really good at giving excuses for rape and sexual harassment. Nobody told you to respond. There are several portions of the game that I like and the portions I dont like, I showed my disappointment. But you really have to jump in defense of a rapist cop. That just says it all.
I seriously want the nonsense Rapist Cop and the Blackmailer route to end so that Ashe can have decent confident relationships and not live like she is treading on broken glass every single day. That is the reason why I chose Siren path. Its so difficult to get a Futa game with a dominant protagonist. I have found only two Instinct Unleashed and Having a Hard Time. This game has several good portions but those two routes are seriously pissing me off.
> hates rape apologists
> likes Having a Hard Time
> MC literally rapes Marianne in the first chapter
 

Ciaran8023

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> hates rape apologists
> likes Having a Hard Time
> MC literally rapes Marianne in the first chapter
There's a bit of a difference between complete lack of autonomy and knowingly raping someone. HaHT is grounded in fiction and she had no control or awareness of her body during that scene due to whatever chemical it was that exploded, meanwhile Rapecop is a lot more proactive to put it lightly.

This isn't the "gotcha" that you think it is, unfortunately.
 

Aaron236

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As far as the Siren choices that i've made: told the cop to fuck off, stayed friends with fiona because i realized she's a dom, and banged her mentor, Lexi, and Zoey, flirted with the boss, and didn't play along with the blackmailer buttplug bs, tried to get vanessa to go down on Ashe, swallowed Vanessa's tongue, and told the blackmailer i didn't bang her, so far so good for me, now i'll play the waiting game for the next update because the other routes don't really align with my fetishes, i will try my best to make my Ashe take no shit from anyone and become a more confident dom like jane in Having a Hard Time.
 

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On a side note, why do these guys keep appearing in my games?
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At first i thought so but now i am not so sure. Feels like Vanessa or Isabella are more likely to be the targets of whoever wants to put drugs in the party drinks.
Also i would say things seem to point to Delilah being involved, maybe she is the one tailing Ashe and informing on her actions to the blackmailer.
 

xeivous

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I'm personally enjoying the siren route and am not particularly interested in the other routes and have to say my complaints are minimal. Fiona is a bit of a stumbling point on the siren route imo as while dominating as the one being penetrated is very much a thing, it's not something the scene tries for. Or if it does it does so very quietly with the last part of Ashe riding Fiona and Fiona getting plastered by Ashe and her own seed.

Rest of the sex stuff is pretty nice. I really like Lexi, the accidental lewds with mom and twin, could probably take or leave Zoey, Kate is hot but I'm not sure she's worth the extra angst Ashe is getting for doing Fiona's mom.

Also I have a bit of a theory on the blackmailer; she's got access to the house that Vanessa owns and Ashe was discovered during her fap session after helping Rachel move in. She might also be the person who hates Vanessa. Delilah is probably involved somehow but I doubt she's anything more than a cat's paw with little idea of what is going on. She just doesn't got the willfulness to try something like the blackmailing thing and I doubt she's got the opportunity or means. Even if Fiona's comment on her behavior in the update feels like some sort of hint.
 

Hungover00

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There's a bit of a difference between complete lack of autonomy and knowingly raping someone. HaHT is grounded in fiction and she had no control or awareness of her body during that scene due to whatever chemical it was that exploded, meanwhile Rapecop is a lot more proactive to put it lightly.

This isn't the "gotcha" that you think it is, unfortunately.
And HaHT has a character agonise over the event, take it seriously, and be talked down from that position. Natasha has none of that self-reflection or morality.
 
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