Birdnman993

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Do you mean it like this? The other way around would make more Sense to me in the kitten route.

I also would like to see some chastity cage Action. Maybe another task from the blackmailer to have the buttplug and chastity cage and then visit someone (maybe Vanessa) who finds out about Ashes sub tendencies and they start going down that road even further.
I would prefer that she blackmailed Ashe into prostitution, the blackmailer clearly has a sensationalist image of the Duplos so it would not be strange if she turned Ashe into what everyone says about the Duplos.

Although it's hot to have Ashe as a kitty, I'm not thrilled about chastity, although I'm open to other punishments to her penis.
 
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Hungover00

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Why would she do that? To know if her daughter's gf is healthy and doesn't have STD? Or to check if they're not duplo because she hates them?
I honestly don't think Moira is involved in the blackmail plot at all. She just has more means to do it than most others in the story. But the motive always felt thin to me.
 
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I see the next update is gonna be only the party not surprised but also kind of disappointed that is the case. If I didn't like Vanessa alot and Rachael to a smaller degree id 100% skip the next update haha
 

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Agreed that Delilah and Ashe will eventually hook up and a solo scene with Delilah would happen first.

Now that we've already been fucked in the pussy by Fiona, if anything were to happen with the two of the sisters together, I think it's more likely that Ashe would be in between them with Fiona fucking Ashe's pussy again while Ashe fucks Delilah. It would be having the two sisters sharing in a sexual experience together that could later (same scene, after a while or another scene more likely) lead to the two of them having sex directly.

I don't think even a strongly dom Ashe would initiate that for them without the two of them succumbing to their desires on their own. It would be a group experience that opens them up to the idea.

The game doesn't have incest listed as a tag but we kind of already kind of had incest with the scene featuring Ashe's sister before and we seem to be heading that way with other character relationships as well so a Delilah & Fiona coupling is a possibility at least. That is, of course, if the dev hasn't said explicitly otherwise and I missed it somehow. Haven't read all 238 pages of this thread yet.


Now, I don't really see this happening, but I would be here for it if the dev wanted to explore that kind of connection between the sisters. Ashe would definitely need to be the bridge between them, one way or another.
Fiona fucking Ashe only happens on some playthroughs. I'm pretty indifferent to Fiona, so they just remain friends. But then, I'm more a fan of Delilah, so ... I dunno
 
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I figured a threesome scene could happen with more action between the sisters thanks to the spin the bottle scene in which you can push the two to have a real kiss.
Yeah I didn't touch upon that but it is an important stepping-stone to the hypothetical situation I was proposing.

Ashe can also dream of them IIRC, so it definitely feels like it's building that way.
Agreed.
 

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Hey everyone

So... I'm gonna talk a little about my plans for Episode 6 here, and this will touch on some mild Ep. 5 spoilers. If you don't want any of that, leave now!

I'm currently still in the writing phase, and probably will be for a little while longer too. At a guess, I'd say I have around 40% of that part done.

Looking at how much I've written so far and how much is still left to do, I'm already afraid that this episode is gonna be huge as well. I actually had the silly notion that this one could finally be a bit of a smaller one again, but currently it really doesn't look like it .

Episode 6 will be a very special one, for a bunch of reasons. Some of you might've already guessed it: The whole next episode will be taking place during just the one party night. There's a lot of things happening there, and a lot of important characters are visiting, so you can expect a wild night for sure.

So this unique setup for the episode brings some challenges with it. Both in the writing department and the technical side.

On the narrative side, I want to experiment a little as well, since this gives me some good opportunities for it. Mainly I want this episode to be a bit less linear than usual and have a lot of different ways on how this whole thing can play out. Since this is a bit more of an isolated event, there's a lot of room to play around with diverging paths and such, without making my life miserable in the future with too many loose ends . (But of course, there's still a bunch of things that will have consequences later on, so this is definitely not just some fun spin-off episode )

I even played around with the idea to make this episode kind of a sandbox-lite thing in some parts, but ultimately decided against it. The extra headaches with writing in regards to different world states and timelines and all that wasn't worth it in my opinion. At least not in the way I've imagined it. Especially since I can tell you already that this episode will be the most complex one yet with branching and such, even without the sandbox elements.

I'm of course not even halfway done yet, so things might still change if I see it not working out, or if the episode just gets way too big. This is another difficulty I'm facing right now, since usually I can just kind of push certain things back into another episode if it gets too big. But there's no way to do that here, since I'm not gonna spread this party over more than one episode. (I actually had kind of the same issue in the last episode, since I needed to fit all the pre-party stuff in there too)

There will also be some challenges with renders that I'm already aware of. In particular the fact that there's a lot of people attending the party. Big crowds are a tricky thing to do in DAZ, especially when you don't just want blurry shadow people or obvious cardboard cutouts in the background, while still wanting the place to feel lively and packed. I'll need some time to figure out what works best here... I have some ideas, but I just need to find a way to implement that in my workflow without slowing everything down too much. And also... I'll need to create a lot of background characters. Like... a lot .

This time I'll also need to pretty much finish all environments and new characters (or at least a big portion of background characters) before I even start doing renders. So it could take a while until I'll have some previews to show, unfortunately.

All in all I'm very excited for this episode, but I'm also a little nervous since there's a lot of tricky things to juggle here. We'll see how it goes!

❤ Enjoy your weekend! ❤
 

Hungover00

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Hey everyone

So... I'm gonna talk a little about my plans for Episode 6 here, and this will touch on some mild Ep. 5 spoilers. If you don't want any of that, leave now!

I'm currently still in the writing phase, and probably will be for a little while longer too. At a guess, I'd say I have around 40% of that part done.

Looking at how much I've written so far and how much is still left to do, I'm already afraid that this episode is gonna be huge as well. I actually had the silly notion that this one could finally be a bit of a smaller one again, but currently it really doesn't look like it .

Episode 6 will be a very special one, for a bunch of reasons. Some of you might've already guessed it: The whole next episode will be taking place during just the one party night. There's a lot of things happening there, and a lot of important characters are visiting, so you can expect a wild night for sure.

So this unique setup for the episode brings some challenges with it. Both in the writing department and the technical side.

On the narrative side, I want to experiment a little as well, since this gives me some good opportunities for it. Mainly I want this episode to be a bit less linear than usual and have a lot of different ways on how this whole thing can play out. Since this is a bit more of an isolated event, there's a lot of room to play around with diverging paths and such, without making my life miserable in the future with too many loose ends . (But of course, there's still a bunch of things that will have consequences later on, so this is definitely not just some fun spin-off episode )

I even played around with the idea to make this episode kind of a sandbox-lite thing in some parts, but ultimately decided against it. The extra headaches with writing in regards to different world states and timelines and all that wasn't worth it in my opinion. At least not in the way I've imagined it. Especially since I can tell you already that this episode will be the most complex one yet with branching and such, even without the sandbox elements.

I'm of course not even halfway done yet, so things might still change if I see it not working out, or if the episode just gets way too big. This is another difficulty I'm facing right now, since usually I can just kind of push certain things back into another episode if it gets too big. But there's no way to do that here, since I'm not gonna spread this party over more than one episode. (I actually had kind of the same issue in the last episode, since I needed to fit all the pre-party stuff in there too)

There will also be some challenges with renders that I'm already aware of. In particular the fact that there's a lot of people attending the party. Big crowds are a tricky thing to do in DAZ, especially when you don't just want blurry shadow people or obvious cardboard cutouts in the background, while still wanting the place to feel lively and packed. I'll need some time to figure out what works best here... I have some ideas, but I just need to find a way to implement that in my workflow without slowing everything down too much. And also... I'll need to create a lot of background characters. Like... a lot .

This time I'll also need to pretty much finish all environments and new characters (or at least a big portion of background characters) before I even start doing renders. So it could take a while until I'll have some previews to show, unfortunately.

All in all I'm very excited for this episode, but I'm also a little nervous since there's a lot of tricky things to juggle here. We'll see how it goes!

❤ Enjoy your weekend! ❤
Sounds like the paths are going to kick in, but be manageable longer term. Can't really extrapolate too much from this otherwise.

I know party scenes are a frequent free-roam time, but I'm glad they have decided to keep to scripted paths. It's already hard to be patient, adding in learning new coding and pathing, it'd be (a tame) purgatory.

I don't particularly dislike the faceless shadow people effect for crowds, but won't say a dev is wrong to avoid it. Just doesn't bother me terribly.

Hopefully they get on a good streak and the writing keeps flowing. Maybe the blackmail reveal will happen and we can move past it.
 
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Hopefully they get on a good streak and the writing keeps flowing. Maybe the blackmail reveal will happen and we can move past it.
As nice as that would be, I sort of very much doubt it.
I think a reveal will only happen when the scene is solely focused on the issue, and not in the middle of a clusterfuck of a party, and it also doesn't feel like we're anywhere near a reveal narratively either.

The pacing feels like the reveal will be in something like 0.8 or 0.9.
 

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It's a shame that the dev want to make a "more differences" in different paths!
As for me, before this, everything was done well, various dialogues and scenes depend on the path the player chose.

It’s not that i’m complaining, it’s just a shame that after waiting "half a year" we will not get, as always, several game days with various events, but only one event-party with many "differences", depending on the path...
 
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Hungover00

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As nice as that would be, I sort of very much doubt it.
I think a reveal will only happen when the scene is solely focused on the issue, and not in the middle of a clusterfuck of a party, and it also doesn't feel like we're anywhere near a reveal narratively either.

The pacing feels like the reveal will be in something like 0.8 or 0.9.
I don't disagree. I just low-key hate the blackmail plotline and wish it was over.
 

Buletti

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Looking forward to this a lot!

The party/club scene in Having a hard time was done pretty well imho. It has a similar big cast as EI. There were a lot of shots that showed the dynamic of a full Dancefloor while you could clearly make out the several known characters and random people.

Would be cool imho if the dev might consider collabs with other DAZ devs and have some of their characters as randoms dancing in the Background.
 
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Why is there a debate about the blackmailer? It's obviously Delilah, it's out of character for her, sure. But all clues lead to her lmao
 

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Looking forward to this a lot!

The party/club scene in Having a hard time was done pretty well imho. It has a similar big cast as EI. There were a lot of shots that showed the dynamic of a full Dancefloor while you could clearly make out the several known characters and random people.

Would be cool imho if the dev might consider collabs with other DAZ devs and have some of their characters as randoms dancing in the Background.
yeah but it wasn't the entire episode either, which is why im not looking forward to this update but the one after. It's just me but I kind of dislike it when an entire update is a party as it rarely feels like there is much story or relationship progression. Not saying that will be the case here as it does seem this dev has branching plans. I still just find it hard to get excited over it and keep my expectations low but I do think the party will be great especially with characters like Vanessa and Isabella I think they will make it alot of fun.
 

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yeah but it wasn't the entire episode either, which is why im not looking forward to this update but the one after. It's just me but I kind of dislike it when an entire update is a party as it rarely feels like there is much story or relationship progression. Not saying that will be the case here as it does seem this dev has branching plans. I still just find it hard to get excited over it and keep my expectations low but I do think the party will be great especially with characters like Vanessa and Isabella I think they will make it alot of fun.
From what the dev said, there should be a lot of content, even though it is only one event. That to me is about all that really matters.

I also think it is cool they want to experiment a bit. That keeps things fresh for the audience and the dev. I have a lot of trust that they will pull of a great event and I am really curious how far the branching will go = how far I will be able to push Ashe.
 

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That's why there is the debate. The lore and writing is too good for an option this obvious.
At this point it’s almost impossible to not be Delilah. She’s obsessed with Ashe, she somehow found out and lied that Fiona told her, she was really squirrelly when Ashe saw her on her phone in the park, she freaked out when Fiona told her she couldn’t go to the party when we know the blackmailer has been watching Ashe and that would mean Dellie couldn’t watch Ashe if she wasn’t at the party, and then lied to Kate about being invited to the party by Ashe. Yes Morigan’s writing is very good, but pulling a red herring like this with no evidence to support anyone else being the blackmailer would be terrible writing
 
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