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1. What do you think Delilah is hiding on her phone on the bus?
2. Why do you think Delilah gasps and runs as soon as Ms. X sends Ashe a message while Delilah is on her phone?
1. She can hide anything she wants. Shy people always do that.
2. She didn't run away, she just left because she wanted to be alone.

You'd better answer the question: why did Delilah say she knew Ashe's secret? That would be pretty stupid for someone as smart and cunning as this blackmailer.
 
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No, it just shows that Moira has different tastes. A tasteless people don't exist. Everyone has taste, different ones. It's a basic thing.
Tasteless people do exist yet they're usually not the part of the society. People call others tasteless when their looks ain't adequate. E.g. overdressing, inaproppriate dressing, not suitable dressing.

Anyway, we're talking in the game context. Judging by the other characters, the author has a taste. No character looks inadequate. Yet Jessica is out of the line. There is no more bimbos in the game, so the author shows us her lack of taste.

Moira looks isn't adequate to Jessica's yet adequate to other characters' looks. So, my thought is that Jessica isn't what she seems. She's not as dumb as we should think of her. She has something what Moira is fond of. And it should be in her nature instead of her style.

By the way, who blamed Jessica with the lack of intelligence? You could try to get off that height to think clearer.
 
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Tasteless people do exist yet they're usually not the part of the society. People call others tasteless when their looks ain't adequate. E.g. overdressing, inaproppriate dressing, not suitable dressing.

Anyway, we're talking in the game context. Judging by the other characters, the author has a taste. No character looks inadequate. Yet Jessica is out of the line. There is no more bimbos in the game, so the author shows us her lack of taste.

Moira looks isn't adequate to Jessica's yet adequate to other characters' looks. So, my thought is that Jessica isn't what she seems. She's not as dumb as we should think of her. She has something what Moira is fond of. And it should be in her nature instead of her style.

By the way, who blamed Jessica with the lack of intelligence? You could try to get off that height to think clearer.
Nonsense. People who are part of society have completely different tastes in literally everything. Standards exist only in totalitarian states and in the army.
 

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To redirect the suspision on her if she was a member of the blackmailer team?
Have you already made up a team? Lol. Let's just blame the government. That's what conspiracy theorists usually do.
Why redirect suspicion? Ashe didn't suspect anyone at all.
 

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Have you already made up a team? Lol. Let's just blame the government. That's what conspiracy theorists usually do.
Why redirect suspicion? Ashe didn't suspect anyone at all.
who says it couldnt be Multiple People Like a blackmailer team friends of her being close to Ash? or do you know somthing we dont.
 
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1. She can hide anything she wants. Shy people always do that.
2. She didn't run away, she just left because she wanted to be alone.

You'd better answer the question: why did Delilah say she knew Ashe's secret? That would be pretty stupid for someone as smart and cunning as this blackmailer.
Like 5 comments before this, I said I don't think Delilah is the blackmailer. So I'm not arguing that point, just asking questions because I think it's really strange you claim there has never been any evidence to support the theory it is her, when chapters 4 and 5 are littered with clues that it's her.

But to answer your question, she told Ashe she knew her secret because she was caught, she slipped by saying she was different and Ashe caught it, and she couldn't come up with an excuse while under pressure.

Two (or three) more questions for you:
1. Ignoring whether she is Ms. X or not and would do what Ms. X is doing or not, do you believe Delilah is intelligent enough to do what Ms. X is doing if she wanted to?
2a. You've said that we now know why she lied about how she found out and that's been settled. Do you think there is a chance she was lying then, too?
2b. What do you think of the coincidence that Delilah has known Ashe was a duplo for months (according to her), but accidentally let slip that she knows to Ashe within 2 days of the blackmail starting?
 
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who says it couldnt be Multiple People Like a blackmailer team friends of her being close to Ash? or do you know somthing we dont.
I think in this case, the idea it's a team is a copout used to try to explain away difficult questions. Like the fact that Delilah was hammered and Ms. X was sending articulate texts, but there's tons of reasons to suspect Delilah besides the second half of chapter 6, so a team theory is a nice way to still be right about Delilah while also explaining the fact it would be difficult for her to do what Ms. X does from the confrontation onwards.

"It can't be character Y because reasons ABC."
"Ah, but if Y was working with character Z then it could still be Y."

The team argument is particularly a problem with Delilah, because there are no reasonable candidates to be her partner. If it is Delilah, she's doing it alone.
 

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sure but i am not saying its Them but for all we know it could be both Delilah and Fiona Working together since she is already quite good with tech working in a Phone store.
 

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Nonsense. People who are part of society have completely different tastes in literally everything. Standards exist only in totalitarian states and in the army.
We're talking about the game. I won't discuss real life here.

Have you already made up a team? Lol. Let's just blame the government. That's what conspiracy theorists usually do.
Why redirect suspicion? Ashe didn't suspect anyone at all.
In fact she was suspecting Delilah when she was after her at the party.

The team argument is particularly a problem with Delilah, because there are no reasonable candidates to be her partner. If it is Delilah, she's doing it alone.
She could team up with Rachel, Fiona, Evelyn or Kate or even Ashe's ex-teacher if the team was after Ashe's emancipation. We don't see anyone writing message to Ashe. Delilah could report to the team what happened at the party.
 
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1. She can hide anything she wants. Shy people always do that.
2. She didn't run away, she just left because she wanted to be alone.
Delilah was obviously a red herring. Morrigan clearly identified the means and motive for Delilah to do this and then made her even more suspicious with her hiding her phone every time Ashe was nearby.

You'd better answer the question: why did Delilah say she knew Ashe's secret? That would be pretty stupid for someone as smart and cunning as this blackmailer.
Why do you think this blackmailer is so smart and cunning? What has she done so far that an idiot couldn't do?

I find this line of thinking to be ironic because blackmailing Ashe was actually an incredibly stupid decision. We can safely assume that Ashe and her friends are going to eventually uncover the blackmailer's identity. In a few episodes from now when this all backfires horribly for Ms. X maybe you will make a post about how stupid she is?
 

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I can subscribe to the multiple blackmailers theory, it could be right. The participants could be willing or forced. Delilah would be forced because she's also blackmailed herself or the main culprit told her it would help her score with Ashe.
 
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She could team up with Rachel, Fiona, Evelyn or Kate or even Ashe's ex-teacher if the team was after Ashe's emancipation. We don't see anyone writing message to Ashe. Delilah could report to the team what happened at the party.
Fiona had no idea Ashe was a duplo, didn't cover Delilah's story about how Delilah found out, cast suspicion on her in chapter 5 saying "she's been acting weirder than usual the last few days", and has no motive.

Rachel has no motive and no reason to work with Delilah.

Evelyn and Delilah have the same problems just Evelyn has - they have no way to know the kiss happened. Not to mention, how do you think this conversation would go "hey Evelyn, do you wanna blackmail your daughter with me?"

Kate and Delilah is at least possible, but they still don't have eyes at the party after Delilah leaves. And the scene showing Delilah leaving for the party being questioned by Kate would suggest this is not the case. Honestly, if Kate's involved it's probably just Kate. Also, Kate's two possible motives (prejudice or being pissed about Ashe x Zoey in her bed) are both unlikely since she hooks up with you twice in the days after.
 
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We're talking about the game. I won't discuss real life here.
What's the difference? People in the game have different tastes, too. I doubt Isabella and Fiona have the same tastes and follow the same fashions.

In fact she was suspecting Delilah when she was after her at the party.
Because it was a coincidence that the message arrived while Delilah was looking at her phone, and that she lied about how she knew Ashe's secret. But that's all.
 

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She could team up with Rachel, Fiona, Evelyn or Kate or even Ashe's ex-teacher if the team was after Ashe's emancipation. We don't see anyone writing message to Ashe. Delilah could report to the team what happened at the party.
And they were all hired by the government.
 
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Delilah was obviously a red herring. Morrigan clearly identified the means and motive for Delilah to do this and then made her even more suspicious with her hiding her phone every time Ashe was nearby.
There is a problem here because that behaviour still needs to be explained. There are numerous scenes in chapter 4 and 5 (and at least one in 6 too) that straight up do not make sense unless Delilah is either the blackmailer or is at least spying on Ashe's phone.
 
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Like 5 comments before this, I said I don't think Delilah is the blackmailer. So I'm not arguing that point, just asking questions because I think it's really strange you claim there has never been any evidence to support the theory it is her, when chapters 4 and 5 are littered with clues that it's her.

But to answer your question, she told Ashe she knew her secret because she was caught, she slipped by saying she was different and Ashe caught it, and she couldn't come up with an excuse while under pressure.

Two (or three) more questions for you:
1. Ignoring whether she is Ms. X or not and would do what Ms. X is doing or not, do you believe Delilah is intelligent enough to do what Ms. X is doing if she wanted to?
2a. You've said that we now know why she lied about how she found out and that's been settled. Do you think there is a chance she was lying then, too?
2b. What do you think of the coincidence that Delilah has known Ashe was a duplo for months (according to her), but accidentally let slip that she knows to Ashe within 2 days of the blackmail starting?
There's never been any evidence that Delilah is a blackmailer, as I've written extensively about. She's not that kind of character at all. And her fatal mistake proves it, too.

1. No. Again, firstly, Delilah has a different personality. If she suddenly turned out to be a cunning and cruel bitch who blackmails the woman she's in love with, that would be a really bad plot twist, coming out of nowhere. Secondly, her failure suggests that she's not that bitch and isn't capable of such cunning, calculating, and cruel games that require thinking one step ahead. Not because she's stupid, but because she has a completely different personality.
2a. I see no reason to think she lied a second time.
2b. It's just a coincidence. Ashe looked depressed about the blackmail, and Delilah wanted to support her, without considering Ashe's reaction.
 
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