VN Ren'Py Eruption Imminent [v0.6.1] [MorriganRae]

[ItsNotUs]

That looks like just her hand to me, at a slightly weird angle, she is not holding anything, also her dick is much bigger than that. I'm not saying 100% nothing happened but its definitely a high possibility nothing happened, since morri said that her path is kitten exclusive. Another point is Rachels main cuck partner for the path will probably be Kleo, more buildup, and teasing. So maybe something did happen, cause some characters will have some scenes on other paths, even if its not there main path, but I feel there is a solid chance nothing happened, and it is just to create anxiety for us and and Ashe with not knowing.

If she's not holding a loaf then MB it's her dick!

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Natasha has a bracelet on her hand, her palm cannot be so big, she is holding something, something darker than her skin, like her penis.

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Everyone sees and thinks in their own way, since the dev did not specifically show what was happening at the moment when Rachel was in Natasha’s apartment, but the kytten path and the neighbor hints at what could have happened! Which has happened more than once: "don’t worry, come in and have some tea!"

 

[MagicMan753]

If she's not holding a loaf then it's her dick!

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Natasha has a bracelet on her hand, her palm cannot be so big, she is holding something, something darker than her skin, like her penis.

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The above image is literally too light to be her penis based on the below picture you are trying to compare, good job drawing an outline of a blurry photo that you can't see clearly what it is, trying to justify your point, but her hand isn't that small. But believe what you want, we'll see in future episodes.

 

[ItsNotUs]

The above image is literally too light to be her penis based on the below picture you are trying to compare, good job drawing an outline of a blurry photo that you can't see clearly what it is. But believe what you want, we'll see in future episodes.

Does perspective and light source mean nothing?

The object around the edges is a different color!

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[MagicMan753]

Does perspective and light source mean nothing?

Its ok, you just have to be right, believe what you want. What happens if or when you are wrong.

 

[ItsNotUs]

Its ok, you just have to be right, believe what you want. What happens if or when you are wrong.

 

[doovel]

I would agree but I want the dev to tell us about the vision for the story.

As well they should, doesn't mean people have to like it. The only thing you can do as a player/supporter is let your voice be known, either through conversation, critique or review and alternatively by withdrawing support or dropping the game.

And this is not a remark on the current quality of the story (outside of the in-depth posts I've made about this episode). The dev telling their story the way they want to tell it, doesn't mean they do it well. The world they build and the rules that do or don't apply can stop making sense, the relationships and how they're build can stop making sense, characters can behave very differently from what makes sense for them and other things of that nature.

In other words you don't have to wait till GoT S8 to recognise it is not of the same quality it once was. For me we're currently in S5 where there was a noticeable drop in quality, but that doesn't mean this dev can't recollect and rebuild it in the next episodes.

I just sincerely hope they make it all worth it with things like the blackmail plot. There's too much intrigue and very little fact at the moment. Throughout several storylines within Eruption Imminent.

Sorry but I feel Brianna is def more chonky than the silhouette of the person shown.

Yes, I checked the calves on the models we've seen so far, but can't pinpoint it to anyone specific. Most models seem to have bigger calves.

 

[doovel]

Does perspective and light source mean nothing?

The object around the edges is a different color!

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See this is the type of in-depth penile analyses we all come to this forum for!

The only way I can respond is:

 

[Alucard421]

See this is the type of in-depth penile analyses we all come to this forum for!

Penile analysis. . I can't believe a Rapist is being utilized as the driving point of all major plot points of this story.

Sometimes I think how much if stereotypes are not followed, we could have different stories. hell sometimes I think how Natasha instead of being a corrupt rapist cop, would have been righteous cop. And Ashe could have fallen in love with her gradually. Natasha would have advised her not to do drugs, be a good support towards her and when a relationship would have finally been between them, Natasha would have pitched the idea of Loving submission and domination between them.

A consensual Sub Dom relationship might have grown, hell they could have pursued Polygamous relationship with other LIs or even an open relationship. Natasha could have been a greater support in Ashe's pursuit of resolving her trauma. Instead we got the stereotypical built character with big cock who is a cop being a rapist. Just like every Black character in any porn game exist for the sole purpose cucking the protagonist, but they never are protagonist themselves, and they never actually fall in love with the the lady because they only exist to seduce and fuck and cuck the other dude.

 

[MadfireMonkey]

What is she holding in her hand?

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She's not holding anything that's her hand you're pointing to and outlining her fingers

 

[Alucard421]

I think you are right. Seeing that render closely, seems like Rapist cop is holding her dick. I think Rachel not only sucked her off. But Since at the end when Ashe comes, the rapist cop comes out as naked and Rachel comes from the bathroom, it seems even more things might have taken place. And Rachel seems to be into NTR, so that might be the case as well.

 

[Hungover00]

I think you are right. Seeing that render closely, seems like Rapist cop is holding her dick. I think Rachel not only sucked her off. But Since at the end when Ashe comes, the rapist cop comes out as naked and Rachel comes from the bathroom, it seems even more things might have taken place. And Rachel seems to be into NTR, so that might be the case as well.

Plus not texting for long periods, going over time, Rape cop's reputation, and the bonus $150 (which Ashe didn't even get on the Kitten route, did she?), it beggars belief that nothing happened. It's technically possible, but the probability is racing towards 0.

 

[Alucard421]

Plus not texting for long periods, going over time, Rape cop's reputation, and the bonus $150 (which Ashe didn't even get on the Kitten route, did she?), it beggars belief that nothing happened. It's technically possible, but the probability is racing towards 0.

Look at the dialogue. The grunts made by RapeCop. A lot of things may have happened. And Rachel prior to that was talking about how huge her dick is.

 

[Alucard421]

Look at the dialogue. The grunts made by RapeCop. A lot of things may have happened. And Rachel prior to that was talking about how huge her dick is.
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This is the neighbor dialogue when Ashe arrives in cuck route, then second image shows Rachel being defensive.

 

[manscout]

As well they should, doesn't mean people have to like it. The only thing you can do as a player/supporter is let your voice be known, either through conversation, critique or review and alternatively by withdrawing support or dropping the game.

And this is not a remark on the current quality of the story (outside of the in-depth posts I've made about this episode). The dev telling their story the way they want to tell it, doesn't mean they do it well. The world they build and the rules that do or don't apply can stop making sense, the relationships and how their build can stop making sense, characters can behave very differently from what makes sense for them and other things of that nature.

Yeah, just to make my position clear, I'm not demanding that the dev change the story to appeal to one demographic or another, I just think the tri-route hard split is a terrible way of making the player interact with the content that's already in the game. If the dev wanted to write 3 routes with very different stories in a way that would be impossible to keep them all internally cohesive, then I could understand the design choice even if I don't like it. But all 3 routes are still going through the same events and story beats so there's no real improvement to the quality by splitting it, and instead it might be watering down certain scenes by ripping out important bits of it and making them route-exclusive just for the sake of having things you can say are exclusive to one route or another.

There is no reason why the player's decision in how they want to deal with the Natasha + Rachel situation should stretch to everything else in the game, with completely different characters and situations.

There is no reason to have a hard split between "Siren" and "Kitten" because even if you go down the "Kitten" route you can still refuse Natasha and get away by literally kicking her in the dick, so it is not like the "Kitten" route means Ashe will always submit, so why make the arbitrary separation from so many other "Siren" actions?

The "Cuckqueen" route is a bit more divisive because some people feel more strongly about NTR type of content, but making that content a "route" is just so much worse than the old opt-in/opt-out system the game had. The way it works out now is terrible.

First, because anyone that is okay with dipping their toes in that kind of content is fucked now because it is an all-or-nothing deal. Wanted to see funny harmless scenes like walking in with Fiona on a naked Evelyn? Sorry that's cuckroute exclusive, if you wanna see it you need to accept the package deal of being kicked out from potential romantic developments with most of the cast (at the very least missing romantic content with Evelyn, Lexi, and Zoey) and that your route will have much stronger NTR content like whatever is going on between Natasha and Rachel and also Evelyn getting railed by Stella who is a bit of a pig (and maybe drugged her).

(Also why is Fiona seeing Evelyn naked even a "cuck" content exclusive? Wow your best friend accidentally saw your single mom naked for a couple of seconds, you probably creampied her married mom in a dressing room, don't be such a little baby about it.)

Second, because a lot of good content is getting cut out from other routes just because they vaguely "fit" better in the cuck route. I think I made my point with the Fiona + Evelyn scene, but there's no reason why a drunk Lexi shouldn't go have fun with the bartender IF Ashe wasn't giving her any attention, or why Zoey couldn't sleep around with other people, specially IF the player passes on the videocall scene with her. As long as they are optional both to happen and to view, what's the harm in having them accessible on the "Siren" or "Kitten" routes? It would still be up to the player's choice.

Summarizing, the central issue is that picking a route feels less about what you are gaining from it and more about what you are losing if you don't pick it, which makes every choice just feel kinda bad:
-Not picking "Siren" feels like it means giving up on Ashe ever growing a spine
-Not picking "Kitten" feels like missing out on Ashe's more natural initial characterization and better written scenes
-Not picking "Cuckqueen" feels like taking out a lot of organic worldbuilding for a sterile world where nothing happens if the MC isn't directly involved

 

[Alucard421]

Yeah, just to make my position clear, I'm not demanding that the dev change the story to appeal to one demographic or another, I just think the tri-route hard split is a terrible way of making the player interact with the content that's already in the game. If the dev wanted to write 3 routes with very different stories in a way that would be impossible to keep them all internally cohesive, then I could understand the design choice even if I don't like it. But all 3 routes are still going through the same events and story beats so there's no real improvement to the quality by splitting it, and instead it might be watering down certain scenes by ripping out important bits of it and making them route-exclusive just for the sake of having things you can say are exclusive to one route or another.

There is no reason why the player's decision in how they want to deal with the Natasha + Rachel situation should stretch to everything else in the game, with completely different characters and situations.

There is no reason to have a hard split between "Siren" and "Kitten" because even if you go down the "Kitten" route you can still refuse Natasha and get away by literally kicking her in the dick, so it is not like the "Kitten" route means Ashe will always submit, so why make the arbitrary separation from so many other "Siren" actions?

The "Cuckqueen" route is a bit more divisive because some people feel more strongly about NTR type of content, but making that content a "route" is just so much worse than the old opt-in/opt-out system the game had. The way it works out now is terrible.

First, because anyone that is okay with dipping their toes in that kind of content is fucked now because it is an all-or-nothing deal. Wanted to see funny harmless scenes like walking in with Fiona on a naked Evelyn? Sorry that's cuckroute exclusive, if you wanna see it you need to accept the package deal of being kicked out from potential romantic developments with most of the cast (at the very least missing romantic content with Evelyn, Lexi, and Zoey) and that your route will have much stronger NTR content like whatever is going on between Natasha and Rachel and also Evelyn getting railed by Stella who is a bit of a pig (and maybe drugged her).

(Also why is Fiona seeing Evelyn naked even a "cuck" content exclusive? Wow your best friend accidentally saw your single mom naked for a couple of seconds, you probably creampied her married mom in a dressing room, don't be such a little baby about it.)

Second, because a lot of good content is getting cut out from other routes just because they vaguely "fit" better in the cuck route. I think I made my point with the Fiona + Evelyn scene, but there's no reason why a drunk Lexi shouldn't go have fun with the bartender IF Ashe wasn't giving her any attention, or why Zoey couldn't sleep around with other people, specially IF the player passes on the videocall scene with her. As long as they are optional both to happen and to view, what's the harm in having them accessible on the "Siren" or "Kitten" routes? It would still be up to the player's choice.

Summarizing, the central issue is that picking a route feels less about what you are gaining from it and more about what you are losing if you don't pick it, which makes every choice just feel kinda bad:
-Not picking "Siren" feels like it means giving up on Ashe ever growing a spine
-Not picking "Kitten" feels like missing out on Ashe's more natural initial characterization and better written scenes
-Not picking "Cuckqueen" feels like taking out a lot of organic worldbuilding for a sterile world where nothing happens if the MC isn't directly involved

That is the best goddamn reply on the issue with three routes strictness. I was flabbergasted to know that Fiona blowjob scene is missing from Siren route, Fiona spooning scene is missing from Siren route, Ashe swallowing Fiona's cum or letting Fiona bukkake her scene is absent from Siren path. All these are exclusive to Kitten or maybe cuckquean path. Is getting spoon fucked by your best friend you are falling in love with not worthy of a confident Ashe or her sucking Fiona off? These could have been a part of any path because these should be scenes between Fiona and Ashe and not fully restricted by particular paths. A loving sex scene is not determined by Dom path or sub path. I am feeling flabbergasted with this knowledge.

 

[InkAndSaliva]

Personally I'm really excited about the route split, as long as the Ashe in each of them continues to grow more distinct over time. Siren Ashe growing more confident, Kitten Ashe growing more subservient and eager to please, and Cuck Ashe growing more pathetic and depraved. I think we're not doing the typical opt-in system because each character's route will also grow more distinct as time passes, and if the develeoper wants to build a consistent and engaging story for these relationships, your character can't be jumping between dom, sub, and cuck with the same character at a drop of the hat.

I enjoy the build up and teasing that's occurring on the cuck route, and it's a pretty common and necessary part of an NTR story for the cuck to start of oblivious and have the player slowly teased as things either occur offscreen, or the other characters begin flirting in front of you. Ignoring Lexi to text Rachel is pretty clearly building up Ashe inadvertently pushing her towards Natasha with her clinginess and jealousy, so that's a necessary scene for future Rachel interactions (like when Ashe picks her up in this same episode and Rachel is pretty clearly growing annoyed with her), and it would be ooc for an Ashe that you want to be more dominant on the Siren route (who wouldn't share Rachel with Nat or ignore Lexi and let her be taken by another).

I know people like more freedom and flexibility in their games, but sometimes you need to judge a game by what it's attempting to be and not what you want it to be. The extra work and dev time for accounting for any combination of dom, sub, and cuck sex scenes, and wrangling them into a consistent and cohesive story and romance arc is just not a casual request.

 

[manscout]

Personally I'm really excited about the route split, as long as the Ashe in each of them continues to grow more distinct over time. Siren Ashe growing more confident, Kitten Ashe growing more subservient and eager to please, and Cuck Ashe growing more pathetic and depraved. I think we're not doing the typical opt-in system because each character's route will also grow more distinct as time passes, and if the develeoper wants to build a consistent and engaging story for these relationships, your character can't be jumping between dom, sub, and cuck with the same character at a drop of the hat.

I enjoy the build up and teasing that's occurring on the cuck route, and it's a pretty common and necessary part of an NTR story for the cuck to start of oblivious and have the player slowly teased as things either occur offscreen, or the other characters begin flirting in front of you. Ignoring Lexi to text Rachel is pretty clearly building up Ashe inadvertently pushing her towards Natasha with her clinginess and jealousy, so that's a necessary scene for future Rachel interactions (like when Ashe picks her up in this same episode and Rachel is pretty clearly growing annoyed with her), and it would be ooc for an Ashe that you want to be more dominant on the Siren route (who wouldn't share Rachel with Nat or ignore Lexi and let her be taken by another).

I know people like more freedom and flexibility in their games, but sometimes you need to judge a game by what it's attempting to be and not what you want it to be. The extra work and dev time for accounting for any combination of dom, sub, and cuck sex scenes, and wrangling them into a consistent and cohesive story and romance arc is just not a casual request.

You really need to look under the hood to understand that what you assume the game is doing with the route split isn't really happening, at least right now.

The game is still going through much of the same events with the same outcomes for every route, the difference is that a great deal of things that could be decided on the moment, based on player preference, are instead being pre-assigned to a mostly unrelated choice you made hours ago.

Even the way the writing is organized is still much the same as before the route-split, it has a mainline script that is followed by every route and then the unique bits are stitched in with a modular approach. The content being produced is still the same and even the way it is organized is still the same, the only thing that changed is how obnoxious it is to access it.

No one is asking to be able to make drastic switches in attitude "with the same character at a drop of the hat". If you decide to defy Natasha she should be your enemy for the rest of the game, if you submit to her then Ashe should fall into her grasp. But the choice of how Ashe tries to deal with Natasha shouldn't decide how the storyline with Evelyn will go, or if the player should get a buttjob or a footjob from Evelyn, or if she should orgasm only once or multiple times when having sex with Fiona. That's pointlessly restrictive on very unrelated things.

I agree with your description of the Lexi cuckroute beach scene, but that one is fine because Lexi and Natasha always had their contents linked and mutually exclusive (you could only see Lexi naked in the gym if you refused to touch Natasha's dick), so it is fine that the choice with Natasha impacts Lexi's content. But even in your example, in the Siren route you can choose to not pay much attention to Lexi and cut things short, so it is not like even the Siren route is enforcing that Ashe and Lexi need to hit it off (you can stop before things get romantic, you can stop only at the kissing, or you can go all the way to anal sex). How would it be "out of character" for an Ashe that chose to pass on Lexi to have the option of peeking on her going with the bartender instead?

I don't have the time to do free work for other people for at least a few weeks, but I'm not kidding that it would not be difficult to mod out the route-split and replace the checks for it with either menu choices or more sensible checks to previous choices and the cohesiveness of the current story wouldn't be negatively impacted at all.

But if you want an example that's already in the game, take Kate's scene, the one where she drops the spoon under the table. That scene takes place after the route-split and isn't impacted by it at all. The player gets a perfectly free choice to either let Kate go under the table to blow them, or go under the table themselves to eat her out, or refuse and cut out the sexy content. Did anyone feel like the way that scene was handled was out of place in the game? Or that it would be improved by taking your immediate choice away and decide instead based on your choice to deal with Natasha, which is a completely unrelated plotline?

 

[Alucard421]

You really need to look under the hood to understand that what you assume the game is doing with the route split isn't really happening, at least right now.

The game is still going through much of the same events with the same outcomes for every route, the difference is that a great deal of things that could be decided on the moment, based on player preference, are instead being pre-assigned to a mostly unrelated choice you made hours ago.

Even the way the writing is organized is still much the same as before the route-split, it has a mainline script that is followed by every route and then the unique bits are stitched in with a modular approach. The content being produced is still the same and even the way it is organized is still the same, the only thing that changed is how obnoxious it is to access it.

No one is asking to be able to make drastic switches in attitude "with the same character at a drop of the hat". If you decide to defy Natasha she should be your enemy for the rest of the game, if you submit to her then Ashe should fall into her grasp. But the choice of how Ashe tries to deal with Natasha shouldn't decide how the storyline with Evelyn will go, or if the player should get a buttjob or a footjob from Evelyn, or if she should orgasm only once or multiple times when having sex with Fiona. That's pointlessly restrictive on very unrelated things.

I agree with your description of the Lexi cuckroute beach scene, but that one is fine because Lexi and Natasha always had their contents linked and mutually exclusive (you could only see Lexi naked in the gym if you refused to touch Natasha's dick), so it is fine that the choice with Natasha impacts Lexi's content. But even in your example, in the Siren route you can choose to not pay much attention to Lexi and cut things short, so it is not like even the Siren route is enforcing that Ashe and Lexi need to hit it off (you can stop before things get romantic, you can stop only at the kissing, or you can go all the way to anal sex). How would it be "out of character" for an Ashe that chose to pass on Lexi to have the option of peeking on her going with the bartender instead?

I don't have the time to do free work for other people for at least a few weeks, but I'm not kidding that it would not be difficult to mod out the route-split and replace the checks for it with either menu choices or more sensible checks to previous choices and the cohesiveness of the current story wouldn't be negatively impacted at all.

But if you want an example that's already in the game, take Kate's scene, the one where she drops the spoon under the table. That scene takes place after the route-split and isn't impacted by it at all. The player gets a perfectly free choice to either let Kate go under the table to blow them, or go under the table themselves to eat her out, or refuse and cut out the sexy content. Did anyone feel like the way that scene was handled was out of place in the game? Or that it would be improved by taking your immediate choice away and decide instead based on your choice to deal with Natasha, which is a completely unrelated plotline?

Damn dude you are killing it. Like every point you are making is so true. Like why Fiona and Ashe get multiple scenes only in Kitten route and not in Siren route? What is the logic behind it? It made me flabbergasted today. And now I am feeling even pissed off that a romantic scene that should have equal scenes irrespective of the route is now limited to two scenes for one route and 5 scenes for other route. It just suggests that Dev themselves prefer one route and the other route is literal scraps being thrown to those who want Ashe to be more confident. Like how is giving blowjob to Fiona or spoon fuck with Fiona a submissive scene. There is nothing Dom or Sub about these scene. Its simply a romantic scene.

 

[InkAndSaliva]

You really need to look under the hood to understand that what you assume the game is doing with the route split isn't really happening, at least right now.

Yes, because this is the first update following the split, hence why I said I liked it if things continued to become more distinct.

No one is asking to be able to make drastic switches in attitude "with the same character at a drop of the hat". If you decide to defy Natasha she should be your enemy for the rest of the game, if you submit to her then Ashe should fall into her grasp. But the choice of how Ashe tries to deal with Natasha shouldn't decide how the storyline with Evelyn will go, or if the player should get a buttjob or a footjob from Evelyn, or if she should orgasm only once or multiple times when having sex with Fiona. That's pointlessly restrictive on very unrelated things.

This is what I'm talking about with player preference vs. player intent. Morrigan is gating these content into different routes to further define Ashe as a character and build up her changes and her dynamic with the LIs. The dynamic Ashe has with her mother when getting the buttjob is different from the footjob and it defines what kind of character she is and what kind of relationship they will develop. It's fine to prefer freeform content where you can choose in the moment, but it leads to vaguer, inconsistent main characters.

How would it be "out of character" for an Ashe that chose to pass on Lexi to have the option of peeking on her going with the bartender instead?

Because a voyeuristic cuck who gets off on watching Lexi blow a bartender is different than the kind of character Ashe is becoming on the siren route.

I don't have the time to do free work for other people for at least a few weeks, but I'm not kidding that it would not be difficult to mod out the route-split and replace the checks for it with either menu choices or more sensible checks to previous choices and the cohesiveness of the current story wouldn't be negatively impacted at all.

In this update? Sure. But you have no idea how it will affect the cohesiveness of the future story updates and relationship development. Once again, this goes back to questions of future dev time complications and the developer's plans and intent.

 

[doovel]

Penile analysis. . I can't believe a Rapist is being utilized as the driving point of all major plot points of this story.

Sometimes I think how much if stereotypes are not followed, we could have different stories. hell sometimes I think how Natasha instead of being a corrupt rapist cop, would have been righteous cop. And Ashe could have fallen in love with her gradually. Natasha would have advised her not to do drugs, be a good support towards her and when a relationship would have finally been between them, Natasha would have pitched the idea of Loving submission and domination between them.

A consensual Sub Dom relationship might have grown, hell they could have pursued Polygamous relationship with other LIs or even an open relationship. Natasha could have been a greater support in Ashe's pursuit of resolving her trauma. Instead we got the stereotypical built character with big cock who is a cop being a rapist. Just like every Black character in any porn game exist for the sole purpose cucking the protagonist, but they never are protagonist themselves, and they never actually fall in love with the the lady because they only exist to seduce and fuck and cuck the other dude.

She could've also turned into a mentor for Siren Ashe. Instead she's just truly a piece of shit, no two ways about it. Unfortunate.

On the black characters cucking, that seems to be the case here as well. All the cuckers on the CQ route this episode were taller, more muscular and darker/black skinned and have way bigger dongs.

This is the neighbor dialogue when Ashe arrives in cuck route, then second image shows Rachel being defensive.
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Rachel is obviously blowing Natasha in the phone scene and the neighbour indeed makes clear they have been fucking. Don't understand why people are pretending otherwise after reading the scripts you posted.