sexypeanut
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couple of second, then Calypso will notice something is wrong, she teleport him to her Cave, and ride his dick until Orion come back to life
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Maybe I wasn't clear enough. What I meant is that on a sci-fi and survival story, to maintain the player hooked, along plotwists and "actually winning", that isn't much appliable on this theme. The game ambient can't always be a mar of roses, it needs thrill, action, actual danger, etc.
If you ask me if it is still too early to have that peak, ok fine. But earlier or later the story will need to go "out of comfort zone". Actually, that also happened for a bit. Confrotation with some enemies, knowing the original of NPCs, knowing that some people are also dying, etc.
Just an example, as much as I shit on SAO, and how fucking bland and boring the MC was, 1 thing they did good, was that sense of danger, of being trapped, of needing to survive, etc, that created the brand. That what was made the viewer hooked on the show on the first episodes, even if the show turns into complete crap just a few episodes afterwards. Even Mother's Basement, who probably hates the show even more than me, at
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explains what SAO did right at start. But in a way this is what I meant about Eternum. Sure you can say all interactions with the girls are nice, fine, but for the plot to advance and at point reaching climax, the way it is it will need to slowly go away of the sense of "comfort zone".Sorry if I'm a bit confusing, because english isn't my first language, but on sci-fi, horror themes, and most importantly, survival stories a sense of tone most of times is need for the viewer to understand the severity of the situation. What good example is on the very first release of the game, when Axel's black friend dies in real life as well. It gives a change of tone.
Dorfnutter
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Benjamin dying didn't change the tone. It along with Orion's nightmare set it right into the kind of mysterious tone that you would expect in a Cariverse title in the same way that the OIAL protag and Judie encountered that cryptic line spouted by the computer in their dad's basement and set the tone for the kind of adventure they were in for...
...at least, it was supposed to except the first four chapters focused more on the slice of life before Cari course-corrected back to the expected tone around the fifth chapter.
Anyway, while I agree that stakes should be raised at some point in this kind of story, the issue is that a major appeal of this title is the server visits and the relationship-building aspects that come with it. So much so that there are people on Cari's Discord advocating for updates where the main story takes a backseat and the focus is on simply hanging out with the girls in some random server doing a random quest and such. However, Cari is pretty steadfast with how he paces his story, though he still makes sure that there's a balance to it by having moments like hanging out with Luna in the barn in 0.7 and learning more about her past (before Orion's horni got the better of him again).
And I guess that's why I disagree with the take that the story has to go full Magnus road trip for the remaining chapters, because as it stands you don't need to rock the storytelling that far in order to up the stakes. Orion fucking up and receiving a sort of penalty for that fuck up that he has to live with until he inevitably redeems himself can still happen without having to cut off the chill relationship building aspect of his journey. In fact, I would argue that that aspect will be needed a lot more now that the story is shifting to Orion rising from his downer moment and becoming the hero he's meant to be, because it'll be his moments with the girls that will ground him from making the same mistakes and making him realize why he needs to be better, not just for the sake of the dead but for the people relying on him.
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Actually, they already did this. Spielberg produced it.
There's your live-action version right there.
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KanyeT
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I would love it if, after MC's death, Calypso saves him, and then we proceed onto her first proper scene.
Not long until we find out now!
songlick
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I don't know, I kinda loose interest in 2-3 months... ideal would be to plan and use bigger teams and finish a product before release. A product that you wait 5-10 years for from start to finish...? damn.
e6mill
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Yet here you are...
maria.wachtel
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Maybe hiring a few helping hands would be advisable to handle the workload. But I have the feeling that the Dev thinks of this Project as his Baby, and has a hard time delegating even just very mundane Tasks.
I'll happily wait, it is ready when it is ready, a good story is worth the wait ;-)
I'll happily wait, it is ready when it is ready, a good story is worth the wait ;-)
Dorfnutter
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Having a bigger team doesn't guarantee a speedier release. Type-Moon has a big ass team and yet it took them 13 years to release the Tsukihime remake. 16 if you count the English release.
There's also the fact that not every dev is willing to build a bigger team because it would be costly not only to pay them but to train them to reach the same level as they are. There's also the issue of finding someone willing AND competent enough to do it, which is a big ask when you consider that your salary is tied to the good will of a bunch of coomers with disposable income. Also, not every dev can work with a big group, with some going indie specifically to get away from the pressure of being in one.
In Cari's case, he's always fine going in it alone, and the only reason he took in the help is because it frees him to work on the render quality a little bit more, not just because he wants to speed things up a bit. The animator being as talented as he is is simply a plus, and the beta testers help him spot errors that he himself might have missed during the course of development. But at the end of the day, he's still technically a one-man team, given the workload he has to do compared to the rest. And that suits him just fine.
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I'm okay with updates being once or twice a year, as long as the quality is consistently good, the content is significant enough to sustain for quite a while, and there are regular progress reports affirming that work is still proceeding on schedule.
More frequent can be fine too. What content is contained in the update is infinitely more important than how often it is released.
I've found with stories as captivating as this one, the longer and larger updates tend to be more satisfying. Smaller, more frequent, updates feel as though you're only being given tidbits, and it wouldn't seem as fleshed out as it currently does.
The story is terrific, and if we have to wait a little longer to get the next update to devour more of this engaging content, so be it.
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I recall some ppl commenting how Eternum's dev progress is getting worse and missed how 'Eternum had 4 updates in a year'
which at first glance it's kind of absurd but when I think about it, Caribdis really pulled 4 Eternum updates in the span of a year. (0.1 released September 2021, 0.4 September 2022)
But of course if you have more than 2 functional braincells you can easily tell why these are taking longer
which at first glance it's kind of absurd but when I think about it, Caribdis really pulled 4 Eternum updates in the span of a year. (0.1 released September 2021, 0.4 September 2022)
But of course if you have more than 2 functional braincells you can easily tell why these are taking longer
Dorfnutter
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[0.8] - Progress Report #2
HELLO EVERYONE!!!
Hope you're all doing great!
We're finally at the end of the month, and as promised, here's a new devlog so you check what I've been cooking and how the progress is going!
As usual with progress reports, I'll try to keep it short and to the point!
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The current development is about 75% complete. As I’ve mentioned before, this update is easily going to have the most hours of content so far!
Here are the current numbers:
- 1102 new renders
- 55 new animations
- 10.5K new lines of code, with over 4500 new lines of dialogue
As many of you know, I’ve been focusing on finding a better balance with my work to prevent burnout and ensure I can continue developing the game with the same passion I had when I first started. However, that doesn't mean I'm not working hard on the game. I want to reassure you that I’m still putting in just as much effort, if not more.
In addition, the renders are now more polished, which naturally takes extra time. While 99% of you have always been incredibly supportive and understanding about the development pace, I sometimes can’t help but worry that some could feel I’m not fully committed. We've all seen other developers start projects just to abandon them halfway, but you can be sure: that will never happen here.
I'm not always fully inspired, productivity can fluctuate, unexpected things can happen (just this previous week some personal issues made me unable to work for 3 days) and even when I'm putting in the same amount of hours, I can't always produce +40 renders a day as I'd like to.
However, I promise to always be transparent about my progress, and I’ll ALWAYS be here to respond to your messages and comments. I love the community we’ve built around my games, and I’ll never stop striving to deliver the best work I can
Thank you all for your constant support
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Now, on a more exciting note!
All that said, I’m still aiming to release the update before Christmas, which means we’re officially in the last stretch!
I expect the full update to have over 1,500 renders. There will be 4 lewd scenes—2 are already complete, and the third just needs a few more days of work!
In version 0.8, we’ll continue our adventure on the pirate server, but also explore brand-new worlds, and, of course, spend some quality time with our favorite girls! I've commissioned a few add-ons that I think will add a lot to the game, and the main plot will also take some intriguing twists that I can’t wait for you to experience
You’ll also notice the harem dynamic starting to take shape more clearly, with new interactions between the girls (without forgetting of one-on-one moments too, don't worry).
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Alongside all of this, the main menu and the Relationship Points screen have been completely revamped to give them a more dynamic look! You can check out the new design in this link:
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And don’t miss the newly designed Exit Screen—my favorite addition!
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Aaaaand that's all for now!
Over the next month, I'll be posting new wallpapers, the 2nd part of the Q&A, and yes, a fresh set of sneak peeks! So... stay tuned!
As always, if you have any questions, don’t hesitate to reach out!
Thank you so much for your support—not only for making the game possible financially, but also for giving me the daily motivation through your kind messages ❤
You guys are truly the best.
THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING
Caribdis
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Redd23
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I'm not even surprised that you're faster than my notifications from patreon xD
Satou Pendragon
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He's waiting and watching with Hawk's Eyes for anything new...
There's an army of Dwarves underneath Carib's house that report to Dorf. He even knows what Carib eats for dinner.
Source: Just trust me, bro.
Redd23
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So to sum it up:
- release before Christmas (public one probably in Jan, but I doubt we'll have to worry about it here)
- new menu and stuff (which normally I totally don't care about, but in this case it's really nice to see how smooth it all looks now)
- "You’ll also notice the harem dynamic starting to take shape more clearly, with new interactions between the girls (without forgetting of one-on-one moments too, don't worry)." - personally my fav part of the update, let the harem begin! Interactions between them is the most interesting piece of the game (aside from the main plot ofc xd)
- Cari commissioned something - if I'm not mistaken he only commissioned animations before, so what it could be? New arts, some kind of minigame for treasure hunt/voyage on pirate server?
- some new worlds and new twists, and obviously new cliffhangers (goes without sa
(sorry, had to do it^^)
- release before Christmas (public one probably in Jan, but I doubt we'll have to worry about it here)
- new menu and stuff (which normally I totally don't care about, but in this case it's really nice to see how smooth it all looks now
)- "You’ll also notice the harem dynamic starting to take shape more clearly, with new interactions between the girls (without forgetting of one-on-one moments too, don't worry)." - personally my fav part of the update, let the harem begin! Interactions between them is the most interesting piece of the game (aside from the main plot ofc xd)
- Cari commissioned something - if I'm not mistaken he only commissioned animations before, so what it could be? New arts, some kind of minigame for treasure hunt/voyage on pirate server?
- some new worlds and new twists, and obviously new cliffhangers (goes without sa
(sorry, had to do it^^)
*Heart racing*
"No...dear gods, no. Not the Mini-games!"
*Nicolas Cage screaming*
The Update-wait is killing me, but that'll be a hell of a gift.
Dorfnutter
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December release likely for Public since he also mentioned the "before Christmas" release on Itch.io a while back (and the only version that gets released there is the Public version). Plus if Cari keeps the 6% prog per 2 weeks sched, he'll be hitting 87% on October and about 93% on the first week of November. Ain't no way the beta's going to reach December at that rate.