VN Ren'Py Eternum [v0.8.0] [Caribdis]

[Crazed roadrunner]

It's a good point you bring up about the pattern with the cliffhangers, and I have to agree.

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He is going to bleed into the Isle of Lost Souls and get the treasure of the abyss by himself, while his real body is sedated at the hospital. We now know that some humans went into Eternum by astral projection. And he is clearly one of the people that can do it.

That or he suddenly reaches into his stomach and sees the letter, opens it while bleeding out and after reading can use his powers in "real" world.

Or Calypso finally is out and capable of teleporting to the real world to heal him, I think that one is the less likely. She was put in the plot device cave to put her out of commission and not interfere with the drama that is unfolding/about to follow.

I agree, cliffhangers that get resolved at the start of the next chapter are just... Ughh

 

[TheBlock43]

Spoiler: for sure

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[friedkeenan]

Oh I just realized, Luna having presumably seen us in the future in her vision will play into an interesting dynamic upon her learning of our death/critical condition. That'll hopefully be fun.

 

[Dorfnutter]

People are coming up with some wild theories as always, but the reality is next episode is going to have 4 lewds that all need build up, the rest of the pirate arc most likely ending with us acquiring the 3rd gem, and probably another Eternum visit to a new server as has been the case in every episode.

If it's structured like 0.6 then he can dedicate a huge chunk of the beginning of the update to Orion coming to terms with his fuck up and getting himself out of his predicament. That leaves enough time for him to focus on the latter part of the Pirate arc where we get the third gem.

A ski trip has been potentially teased for 0.8 since Christmas is just around the corner, so a timeskip could be implemented after the Pirate event and we can use the event for a potential Annie, Nancy, and/or Dalia scene. Alex too if she happens to be dragged into the trip. With Dalia though there's her upcoming birthday on New Year's Eve, so that could be covered after the ski trip instead.

That however leaves the "legendary cliffhanger" for 0.8 that Cari has teased a while back. Not sure what else would be worse than 0.7's ending, but this is Cari we're talking about, so.../shrugs

Feels like the cliffhanger was forced and I think Cari really backed himself into a corner on what to do with it. They only have the remaining day to complete the pirate arc before the Island disappears. Either his powers or Calypso save him is basically the logical conclusion.

The general outline of the entire story is pretty much done from beginning to end and Cari has said on Discord that the only thing that's unwritten are the LI events (which he usually just tries to wing depending on the mood he's in, if he has heard a soundtrack that he wants to base an entire scene to (i.e. the bazooka scene in 0.5 which he built after he heard the music for it and not the other way around), or when he thinks of a random idea for it). So Orion's "death" is pretty much planned right from the start.

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[Frostfire281]

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is stuck in my head for days now...

Brain: Could be worse. Least it's not "Run Boy Ru-"

Me: You finish that damn sentence and I swear I will end you.

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Honestly, same. It immediately got added to my Eternum youtube playlist that I've been listening to on repeat for what feels like a month now >.>

 

[topshelf]

He is going to bleed into the Isle of Lost Souls and get the treasure of the abyss by himself, while his real body is sedated at the hospital. We now know that some humans went into Eternum by astral projection. And he is clearly one of the people that can do it.

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A ski trip has been potentially teased for 0.8 since Christmas is just around the corner, so a timeskip could be implemented after the Pirate event and we can use the event for a potential Annie, Nancy, and/or Dalia scene. Alex too if she happens to be dragged into the trip. With Dalia though there's her upcoming birthday on New Year's Eve, so that could be covered after the ski trip instead.

Curious, where's this been teased?

The general outline of the entire story is pretty much done from beginning to end and Cari has said on Discord that the only thing that's unwritten are the LI events (which he usually just tries to wing depending on the mood he's in, if he has heard a soundtrack that he wants to base an entire scene to (i.e. the bazooka scene in 0.5 which he built after he heard the music for it and not the other way around), or when he thinks of a random idea for it). So Orion's "death" is pretty much planned right from the start.

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The general outline of the entire story is pretty much done from beginning to end and Cari has said on Discord that the only thing that's unwritten are the LI events (which he usually just tries to wing depending on the mood he's in, if he has heard a soundtrack that he wants to base an entire scene to (i.e. the bazooka scene in 0.5 which he built after he heard the music for it and not the other way around), or when he thinks of a random idea for it). So Orion's "death" is pretty much planned right from the start.

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It reminds me of the opening of Mass Effect 2 where Shepard was killed off... only to come back alive after 2 years. Death scenes like this introduce contrivances to the plot, and the progression brought forth by them can be easily accomplished by a near-death experience rather than outright dying.

We all know Orion isn't truly dead since the story still has another 3 updates, so the shock value of "oh shit, did he really die?" just doesn't hit as hard. Funnily enough, BioWare learned this as well by killing off Shepard a second time at the end of ME3, but one of the end scenes left it ambiguous as to if he really was dead or not.

 

[Dorfnutter]

Curious, where's this been teased?

Unless Cari throws another curveball for 0.8 (like he did in this update by having us go to Ekabar), there really isn't anything that's teased to happen in the near future other than the Meiyo trip (which could happen anytime) or the Big Hunt (which was supposed to be the big Ekabar event but it's slated for January according to the story). So that gives us a clear path for the Ski Trip this 0.8.

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[Dorfnutter]

We all know Orion isn't truly dead since the story still has another 3 updates

About 5-7 more based on Cari's latest estimate, not 3.



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[topshelf]

It reminds me of the opening of Mass Effect 2 where Shepard was killed off... only to come back alive after 2 years. Death scenes like this introduce contrivances to the plot, and the progression brought forth by them can be easily accomplished by a near-death experience rather than outright dying.

We all know Orion isn't truly dead since the story still has another 3 updates, so the shock value of "oh shit, did he really die?" just doesn't hit as hard. Funnily enough, BioWare learned this as well by killing off Shepard a second time at the end of ME3, but one of the end scenes left it ambiguous as to if he really was dead or not.

Haha yeah.

Although a minor correction; there's still at least 5 updates coming (story won't end at 1.0)

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Unless Cari throws another curveball for 0.8 (like he did in this update by having us go to Ekabar), there really isn't anything that's teased to happen in the near future other than the Meiyo trip (which could happen anytime) or the Big Hunt (which was supposed to be the big Ekabar event but it's slated for January according to the story). So that gives us a clear path for the Ski Trip this 0.8.

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Oh ya! Nice catch. That should be fun.

 

[hulabulia]

Spoiler: Had to

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[mag5246]

What's the point of having an ending like that? Like any of the players would believe this.
I really like this game, but the plot twists here can be read from the previous chapter.

 

[Adrien75X]

The ending really shocked me

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For those who had the courage to read everything what do you think ?

 

[Dorfnutter]

4) MC is in a coma.
His soul can be transported to Limbo with Idriel where he can train his skills, powers to come back stronger while his body is taken care of in a hospital. When he wakes up he mastered a lot more his powers and can come back stronger.
I am not sure of this one since Idriel says that it is most likely his end, meaning she doesn't believe in his survival.
5% probability

Reminder that Idriel said that time does not exist in Limbo. If Cari uses that thread and Orion is transported there, it could be possible for him to stay there indefinitely until he is able to come back into the real world without losing time. Mayhaps by returning he would also be healed, albeit with the potential caveat that there is no do-over if he screws up again.

This event will also help him grow as a better future king.

I'm of the opinion that he won't be ruling anything when all is said and done. If Orion's character development is supposed to go from him being this horndog who is so sure of himself into someone who understands the weight of the responsibility thrust upon him and the plight of the dead, it's more fitting that he ultimately rejects any seat of power and simply sets the dead free, choosing instead to live a content life with his harem in the real world (as it is also likely that Ulysses Corp will not survive by the end of the game as access to Eternum will likely be closed (either by Orion using the Gems' power or by Idriel once she is freed) to prevent players from tampering upon it further, so the CEO route is also out).

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[bukuwa114]

awsome！

 

[Shawnchapp]

OH wow i think the devs fetish is showing a bit here Lol

 

[Dorfnutter]

OH wow i think the devs fetish is showing a bit here Lol

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It's a callback to a comment he made on Discord regarding Penny's hair...





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[Shawnchapp]

It's a callback to a comment he made on Discord regarding Penny's hair...

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This only confirms his fetish is showing here

 

[cayseron]

ok after having enough time for emotions to calm down and look at it more objectively i like 0.7 more than i initially did because i was focusing mostly on negatives and failing to see the bigger picture. ofc. i could still be entirely wrong with the way i feel now but at least its not as bad as i thought

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Spoiler: 0.8 expectations

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[BeenThroughHell]

OMG NOVA IS SO FREAKING HOT
Also whats the song during her scene?