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Haven't checked your reply yet :)
will be able to do it now that I caught up in the thread. :D
you are nitpicking on weird details quite often, but you let go of an important detail such as the correct name of a very important item of the lore. that undermines your credibility about the rest. it literally takes you 2 second to check and copy paste it. if you can't check that easy thing, how can we trust that you check the other more complicated stuff ?
and instead of taking it personally, you should just edit it and move on. it was lost in a literal wall of text. you had a good opportunity to learn the correct name and spelling.
Well forgive me for having a life outside this forum that I couldn't check it quick like I used to. :rolleyes:

Also again, quite rich being so anal about me fucking up one - ONE - detail when you yourself can't accept certain details about a particular character, even going so far as to call the dev's response on the matter as "trolling."

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oh no, we're getting technicalities involved. That's my queue to drop the conversation cuz it ain't worth it anymore. Sorry, but her slamming her hips down on a large flesh spike is still her getting the "shit fucked out of her", regardless of whether she's doing more of the moving at first or not.
if she is in charge and controls the rhythm and force, then no she didn't get the shit fucked out of her.
doesn't mean she can't enjoy it. maybe that's what you meant then ? enjoying it that much is getting the shit fucked out of her for you ?

yeah, i just replayed the game once more and paid closer attention to find what i had in mind and as i already posted before (you probably just missed it) i clearly missremembered things and they all meshed up together. she never said she fooled around, she actually said she would never give someone bj just to kickstart her carrier, but then later during verita serum she explains how she waits for prince charming and in meantime just playing around with fingers and vibrators, and also when you just learn that her "boyfriend" is just an inside joke between her and hers gay friend she actually says she does not have time for relationships. Closest that is actually stated is that she actually had one boyfriend but it wasnt serious. still i have no confirmation that she was virgin and after replaying the lambo scene i doubt that she was, nobody would act so casual about it on their first time (talking about her teasing and way she was proposing it like its regular tuesday for her and not first time)
yeah, it's very vague for Penny.
and Alex has zero detail.

during the flashback, Penny seemed quite fond of boys. she might have been the queen of the prom in senior year, and could have just given it up to her date then, like most popular girls cliché. She could have learnt her lesson afterwards and toned down the cringy slutty vibe. just like she did it for her instagram.
if she had a boyfriend, there is a chance she lost it with him too. though she said it's not serious, it could just mean her feelings towards him, and still enjoy casual sex.
when she is in the mall with her friends, she is an obvious party girl, and they expect her to be at every party. she probably pulls tons of people with her like that. though she doesn't sleep around (anymore?) and just plays with herself waiting for the right guy. she also didn't want to show herself to valentino even though it would be great for her modeling career, so we can speculate she wouldn't show herself to random guys either now. she does show herself to a girl durig the party though for a dare, if I remember right.
also, if she was a virgin, with all the attention from creeps in her DMs she got, she would not be that casual about giving it up to a pervert like MC :D

there are two things that Nancy said that could also be clues :
first is that Nancy basically wants to evaluate potential guys for her daughters (speaking mainly about MC) to see if they are good enough. and she implies, to flirt, that she would check even their performance in bed. so that may mean that Penny never found a "good enough" guy.
she also said in this update that MC is the girls first love (except for herself) so none of the girls have fallen in love before.
and one unspoken rule in AVN is that good girls don't lose their virginity without being in love :D

from all that we can only speculate.

Since we're talking about Alex's or Penny's virginity again, I'll echo someone else's thought that Caribdis purposely didn't give a direct answer in the game about it.

We're explicitly told that the other girls (except Nancy, of course) are virgins, but nothing 100% accurate about Alex or Penny.
And this is done intentionally so that each player draws their own conclusions, because there are players who believe that LI's no virginity is 200% NTR

Like, Alex is a girl who hates her father and does everything to piss him off, from constant swearing and rude behavior, to getting tattoos all over her body.
She is very open and sexy (it's not hard for her to fall for Orion's ploy and do a little striptease showing her tattoos in chapter 2, or to give a blowjob standing 5 steps away from her father in chapter 4).
It's highly unlikely that such a girl has had no sexual experience at all in the past.

Or Penny, the school's first beauty and Miss “Instagram's Best Tits”, loves to party and hang out, and is trying to pursue a modeling career. In addition, Penny is already at university, and she is 20, not 18, as most of the other girls. Was she also sitting around waiting until our boy Orion came back to town?
Again, unlikely.

but that's if you're trying to use the logic of the normal world, but since we're discussing a porn game, it's possible that all the girls are virgins (even Nancy).
yeah, the anti-NTR bannermen are really annoying sometimes.

Nancy being a virgin would have been hilarious though. Just to see how the fans would react.

I mean the unspoken rule of adult games dictate that unless mentioned otherwise, the girls are virgin although I think their virginity are open to interpretation. Personally don't think Penny was a virgin, she had a boyfriend and seemed like a party animal in college. Her behaviour towards sex was also pretty clear from start and knew she wanted it hard but again her scene during veritaserum imply she wasn't just getting laid and just relied on toys.

For Alex, I think it's unlikely due to her personality, she is just someone very confident both in her body and personality and was also very closed off. She probably also saw everything wild going on the high class parties and probably even made out with someone to piss off her dad. Doubt she had went all the way with anyone tho, the "just the tip" excuse made it clear. She wanted to not lose charge to Orion despite being vulnerable for her first time.

Again it can be argued otherwise too and doubt Cari is gonna ever confirm or deny it and not something that matters lol.
Alex could have had sex with a guy just to piss her father off too. hate fuck :D indirect revenge fuck ? maybe even the tatoo artist to add to his ire xD

I think the whole vigin debate is pointless, cause it doesn't ruin their characters or change them in anyway, it isn't something that is talked about all the time in game, its just something that dosn't really matter imo. Its something only the person playing can judge and perceive for themselves.

I personally believe Penny and Alex are virgins, but if someone perceives it a different way, so be it. The game doesn't change, the story stays the same, and the beautiful relationships with the girls are still amazing no matter what you think on this subject.
to me, it doesn't matter if they are virgins or not, what matters is their backstory that goes with it.
how was their love/sex life before the story began ? what trauma does that leave them with now ? how it will affect and explain their current behavior towards MC and other people ?
anything that will add depth to the characters, really. so I think it does change the game, but I hope it's for the best. :)

Yes ofc cari was tiptoing the line and did not want to cross it but in both scenes there were multiple times that i was reading it and girls were trying to stop or slow down due to change of circumstances that it felt like orion was still pushing too hard. granted not once did i feel like he would push too far, but it did feel jarring that update started with orion realizing he needs to change his way and then during these scenes i personally felt like he did not really learn lesson at all, that is what i tried to point out. i did not think that either scenes were distasteful or poorly executed.
I honestly didn't feel it like you did. maybe I was too lazy when I read those scenes.
and though he wanted to change after his near death, it doesn't mean the change will happen overnight, or that it will affect how he acts during sex.

Thats obvious, his biggest fear is that Nova will lose interest in him and stop hacking into his life so by not seeing her inside his dream that in itself is his biggest fear. im just joking though, i remember there is a scene somewhere in early chapters where he outright forbids nova to hack into his personal life and that she should trust him and just ask anything she wants to know as he would willingly share the information anyway and hacking just feels like breech of trust. But joke aside i think sentiment is there. Not to mention with how Nova operates if she wants someone out of her life its safe to assume they would never be able to hear from her or about her again, she would just dissapear from her life in a way that she could never be retraced again. it comes with the job of being a hacker.
that's an interesting POV. I was just thinking that Nancy and Nova were missing in the dream because MC wanted to get back to them knowing they were just next to his body. and even if Nancy is mentioned in the nightmare, it's mainly the broken relationship with her daughters.

this i dont know, maybe i am forgetting something but can you share any examples of when did nova and annie spend lot of time together, i wish to read those scenes again.
in 0.7, MC and Luna are at the coffee shop, and Annie arrives because she was supposed to meet Nova just after to spend time together. Nova just called her after noticing she didn't have her drawing kit at home and forgot it at the Carter's house the night before, and Annie anticipated it and was bringing the items to their meeting spot for her showing some kind of bond forming already. in 0.8, Annie made the chibi recap, and she did it while she was with Nova who was drawing a manga. there might have been some stuff before, but I'm too tired to remember :D

yooooo, i like the idea. Having Luna turn full DOM like how Penny turned full SUB would be dope. She is already into horror and freaky shit. I think whips and leather would be too far but i would love to see some biting and nail scratches as she gets lost in the moment.
especially since she lived all her life at the mercy of others, and at the mercy of her curse, without any control. getting some form of control in the bedroom could be interesting for her character. :)
 

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Well forgive me for having a life outside this forum that I couldn't check it quick like I used to. :rolleyes:

Also again, quite rich being so anal about me fucking up one - ONE - detail when you yourself can't accept certain details about a particular character, even going so far as to call the dev's response on the matter as "trolling."

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FINALLY ! you show actual proof.
even though, you again try to put words in my mouth, and in the most condescending way possible :ROFLMAO:
you had that since last may, and you didn't to show it before when asked ? :unsure:
 

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What is weird though is that he never tries to activate his power buff on Earth.
it was shown as still useable even on servers where magic is banned or even in anti magic zones. if he can use it with his real body in Eternum, why can't he on Earth ?
he can teleport from Earth, so he can use powers there. is it just a case of him forgetting or not even trying on Earth ? or is there something that prevents it ?
 

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I don't know how to do the spoiler tag and I'm posting from my phone..... so maybe spoilers?????


I just finished my first play through and I'm trying to figure out if I'm up to date or not.


The final scenes I have are with Nova. MC is in the alley heading out for pizza and has just got the map for the island.
Am I cought up with the last version or is there more?
 

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I don't know how to do the spoiler tag and I'm posting from my phone..... so maybe spoilers?????


I just finished my first play through and I'm trying to figure out if I'm up to date or not.


The final scenes I have are with Nova. MC is in the alley heading out for pizza and has just got the map for the island.
Am I cought up with the last version or is there more?
There's one more episode
 
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I don't know how to do the spoiler tag and I'm posting from my phone..... so maybe spoilers?????


I just finished my first play through and I'm trying to figure out if I'm up to date or not.


The final scenes I have are with Nova. MC is in the alley heading out for pizza and has just got the map for the island.
Am I cought up with the last version or is there more?
That was in 0.75 update current update is 0.8.0. ;)
 
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he doesn't explicitly say that she is part of the harem. she may be super important to the plot but not to the harem. she could die or disappear at some point. like being absorbed by MC for her powers or sacrificing herself for him. cleansing the gems or something.

well, Thanatos obviously fears Calypso's magic as he started by restraining her and sealing her magic before ambushing MC... he underestimated MC, so if he didn't mind her magic, he could just backstabd MC and move on.
also, we don't know how he appeared on the Ogygia server. because otherwise MC or Calypso could just teleport him away and seal him somewhere like that. Maybe even bring him to Hyril'ar and have the elves deal with him :D
when he talks about making a new world, he says "we", so maybe he is part of the syndicate or some similar group. even if Bardot says that he acts alone.
Wdym by explicity? What more do you expect him to say? He just said "ALL THE GIRLS IN HAREM!". :FacePalm:

I mean, I know you Calypso haters don't wanna see her in harem, and I can understand that. But you can't change the facts. :WeSmart:

Yes, she isn't shown in the main menu with the other harem girls yet. But she'll be there eventually. After the events of EP9, her romance path will be opened. If you don't wanna see her in harem just ignore her, skip her scenes, etc. :Kappa:

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You got completely wrong Thanatos and his motivation. He does NOT fear of Caly's magics. He does NOT fear of anything.

He just didn't want to let Orion slip away from him again. Because Caly can open a portal anytime and anywhere she wants. So he used that special chains to not let that happen. But he underestimated Caly, not Orion!

Besides it so obvious that NO ONE can harm Thanatos in any way. Not even Caly. I mean, if the whole team attack him altogether they can't even touch him. He's like a GOD at this point.

Also him being with the Syndicate? You're kidding, right? :KEK:
 
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and even if Nancy is mentioned in the nightmare, it's mainly the broken relationship with her daughters.
i mean that IS the scarriest thing i can imagine. As far parents in fiction go Nancy is S tier. Most characters either dont have kids or in case of younger characters they dont have parents. Parents are either dead or left etc. Nancy always being there for Dalia and Penny is so wholesome and endearing to read. Now yes granted it gets freaky with her wanting to test the boyfriend material to see if it is up to her standard etc. but its an AVN ofc it will be freaky. that does not take away from how great mother Nancy is. Seriously as far as her character as a parent goes Nancy is some of the best written characters. Forget Orion, its my personal biggest fear to see cari pull of a twist and make Nancy abandon her kids for real. I think not seeing Nancy in the dream and only hearing from the dalia and penny how nancy is out of the picture only adds to experience. Out of all the "fears" showcased in the dream, luna and nancy hit me the hardest.

in 0.7, MC and Luna are at the coffee shop, and Annie arrives because she was supposed to meet Nova just after to spend time together. Nova just called her after noticing she didn't have her drawing kit at home and forgot it at the Carter's house the night before, and Annie anticipated it and was bringing the items to their meeting spot for her showing some kind of bond forming already. in 0.8, Annie made the chibi recap, and she did it while she was with Nova who was drawing a manga. there might have been some stuff before, but I'm too tired to remember :D
Thats cool, i think i did not connect those things but yeah true they do spend lot of time together off screen.

especially since she lived all her life at the mercy of others, and at the mercy of her curse, without any control. getting some form of control in the bedroom could be interesting for her character. :)
Also the fact that she went through most of her life without being able to touch people without gloves, i am sure she will get really "handsy" with orion.
Also a cool twist would be if she actually gets vision from orion during sex. like post nut clarity
 
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Wdym by explicity? What more do you expect him to say? He just said "ALL THE GIRLS IN HAREM!". :FacePalm:

I mean, I know you Calypso haters don't wanna see her in harem, and I can understand that. But you can't change the facts. :WeSmart:

Yes, she isn't shown in the main menu with the other harem girls yet. But she'll be there eventually. After the events of EP9, her romance path will be opened. If you don't wanna see her in harem just ignore her, skip her scenes, etc. :Kappa:

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You got completely wrong Thanatos and his motivation. He does NOT fear of Caly's magics. He does NOT fear of anything. He just didn't want to let MC slip away from him again. Because Caly can open a portal anytime and anywhere she wants. So he used that special chains to not let that happen. But he underestimated Caly, not MC!

Besides it so obvious that NO ONE can harm Thanatos in any way. Not even Caly. I mean, if the whole team attack him altogether they can't even touch him. He's like a GOD at this point.

Also him being with the Syndicate? You're kidding, right? :KEK:
you got it twisted, 0.9 will reveal that calypso is packing. if you revisit her bathtub scene you can notice how cari drew every render in a way that calypso purposefully hides her genitalia in a way that can easily hide a massive dong.
Im trolling but youre welcome for that imagery :D

On serious note, Calypso is not part of the harem but she is crucial component for the best ending. I mean it was spelled out to us from the very beginning she is a weapon. If Cari wanted her to be part of harem and was planning to postpone her joining harem for this long he could have easily put another girl with ? over sillouette to tease readers. The fact that 0.8 comes with brand new design of girl bios and calypso is still on the same level as maat and eva as "others" is another proof that she is not main girl. Also, 0.7 had Eva cameo, 0.8 had Maat cameo and neither of them had a scene. If we follow this pattern and especially with the cliffhanger we got its safe to assume 0.9 will have a scene with Calypso but it wont be any more serious than eva's or maat's.
again, have to say it cause i feel sometimes it gets lost in translation. i am just trolling, i am pretty sure we are getting a scene with calypso, she is obviously more established than other two "other" girls and has more focus on.
but i do believe seriously that she is not going to suddenly magically appear as main girl in any future updates
 
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you got it twisted, 0.9 will reveal that calypso is packing. if you revisit her bathtub scene you can notice how cari drew every render in a way that calypso purposefully hides her genitalia in a way that can easily hide a massive dong.
Im trolling but youre welcome for that imagery :D

On serious note, Calypso is not part of the harem but she is crucial component for the best ending. I mean it was spelled out to us from the very beginning she is a weapon. If Cari wanted her to be part of harem and was planning to postpone her joining harem for this long he could have easily put another girl with ? over sillouette to tease readers. The fact that 0.8 comes with brand new design of girl bios and calypso is still on the same level as maat and eva as "others" is another proof that she is not main girl. Also, 0.7 had Eva cameo, 0.8 had Maat cameo and neither of them had a scene. If we follow this pattern and especially with the cliffhanger we got its safe to assume 0.9 will have a scene with Calypso but it wont be any more serious than eva's or maat's.
again, have to say it cause i feel sometimes it gets lost in translation. i am just trolling, i am pretty sure we are getting a scene with calypso, she is obviously more established than other two "other" girls and has more focus on.
but i do believe seriously that she is not going to suddenly magically appear as main girl in any future updates
I have always thought that the main girls are the ones Orion interacts regularly both inside eternum and his real world. Calypso, Eva and Maat don't come under it as they're "eternum exclusive". I believe it'll change once Calypso gets access to his world and hangs out there more often, maybe in next update or in future. Even if it doesn't happen, depending on 0.9 and future updates, I don't believe that she'll remain under "others" by the end
 

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I have always thought that the main girls are the ones Orion interacts regularly both inside eternum and his real world. Calypso, Eva and Maat don't come under it as they're "eternum exclusive". I believe it'll change once Calypso gets access to his world and hangs out there more often, maybe in next update or in future. Even if it doesn't happen, depending on 0.9 and future updates, I don't believe that she'll remain under "others" by the end
guess we will have to wait and see. I am sure calypso will have more spotlight than eva and maat but i am also very confident that she will not leave the "other" groupification and get her own path with <3 and i will remain as confident until the end unless Cari drops a sudden announcement about remastering the hud and change things from previous updates which might happen. Not to state the obvious but Calypso is not even human and has no "body" outside eternum. Unless we are talking about some "happy ending" where they all live inside eternum forever i dont see how calypso fits the narrative. She is the means to an end, the weapon as founder dubbed her. She is not someone Orion will pursue and try to add to his harem because harem is not part of eternum but his real world.

Not to mention calypso would not fit in harem in the first place. Even if she somehow gains power to travel to their world it will still be weird to live in human world as an elf, for the ears reason alone, let alone her royal attitude. She is more likely to be killed in first week by random thug like orion in 0.7 because she pissed off some scummy lowlife with her attitude, or end up in jail (or living the runaway life of a criminal in human society) than actually have functional and satisfying happy life in this harem. Its far more likely that in 0.9 we are focusing on giving her back her kingdom and in return get promise of aid in our goal, but in the end they are going separate ways. (end of the story, not 0.9 update)
 
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Sorry , I am new here. I am seeing patches , compressesd links and split mentions.

What quality difference would be there in compressed and original ?original is 9.2gb whereas compressed is 2.4gb.

If its not a big difference i would dowload compressed cuz i have limited internet.

alternatively , can anyone provide spit links, that is also an option , not able to find it ?
 

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WOW i must say i am nowhere near the level of thought you all have put into the lore of this avn,however i want to insert my shallow thoughts nonetheless. IMO this update was the best by far. And it is evident that the skill level of Caribdis has improved expedientialy. Whether that is because there is a new 3D artist or just his skill has increased either way it is awesome. And if he did hire a new 3D artist it was the right decision IMO. The story was always good,and this update was next level. I didn't care much for the whole office scene on the way to the island of the dead. I must confess i clicked through that but that is ok. I know this is a shallow comparison at best,but i must say i enjoy this AVN more than Being a DIK and i will be supporting Caribdis from this point on. It matters little to me how much he is making as i think Good artist are few and far between. The world would be a much better place if we rewarded the people that can create things that make people feel good. Instead of Oil barrens becoming billionaires for raping the earth we live on and taking advantage of everyone they can. Sorry to interject my shallow thoughts at this point but after playing this update i had to say something. As a last thought i enjoy the banter between you guys so keep it up. Your differing opinions give me food for thought so my small feeble mind doesn't have to figure it all out.
 
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