I disagree, imo there is a very clear change in Orion's behavior after the "change".
Yeah, i am known to exaggerate when trying to get my points across because why not lmao so its understandable if you think alex thing is ridiculous. But even though i do exaggerate the things i still stand behind how i feel because there is a difference between objectivity and subjectivity. Yes objectively i know i am going too far when bringing alex scene, but personally i dont care. When they get transfered into colliseum and Alex loses her leverage she is in shock and asks Orion to stop but he ignores her words because "new pose feels too good". thats just facts. I am not saying that just because that happened its bad or that because its part of her scene that orion did not learn anything or did not change at all. I am saying that i personally did not like it because of the way it made ME feel when reading the scene. That is not a comment on the writing, its comment on the things i focus on. So its ok to say that its ridiculous for me to exaggerate to the extent that i did, but dont say its ridiculous that i think there are parts that made me feel uncomfortable in said scene
hmm, on one hand you prove my point that she is half the character othe girls are but on the other hand you disprove my direct quote that she is not main girl. I still feel like i was proven wrong somehow
I feel like calypso is only not a part of it to "hide" her importance.hmm, on one hand you prove my point that she is half the character othe girls are but on the other hand you disprove my direct quote that she is not main girl. I still feel like i was proven wrong somehow
Likely because unlike the other girls she has little to no dedicated side events and all of her events are basically in service to the main plot (whether it be infodumping the backstory of her lineage to being a main component in Orion's quest for the gems). Even our time in Hyril'ar in 0.9 will no doubt be main plot focused that'll be rife with infodumps and not a sidetrip like, say, Dalia's competition or Penny's photoshoot.hmm, on one hand you prove my point that she is half the character othe girls are but on the other hand you disprove my direct quote that she is not main girl. I still feel like i was proven wrong somehow
exactly. thats why she is just a side girl not a main one. she is a plot device, a tool, a "weapon of atlas"
Sadly not, but next one for sure. You'll see.
To you, maybe. Cari seems to have a differing idea as to what a "side girl" is based on the quote I screenie'd.exactly. thats why she is just a side girl not a main one. she is a plot device, a tool, a "weapon of atlas"
Calypso is an event herself and don’t need side plot devices to move to development along. As you said your self she is tied to the main plot and it don’t get more main girl energy than that.
On the contrary, I have an exact opposite idea that she's the default girl Orion can always have an ending with, even if he fails every girl's path, the fail-safe LI. Plus, with the amount of scenes she's in (and that 0.8 ending), it's hard not to consider her as a main girl.
screenshot proves that my definition of side girl is different from cari's definition. But nowhere in that screenshot do you have a confirmation that calypso is main girl. If anything, i can use that screenshot to prove that calypso is not even side girl but just a plot device thus further downgrade her posibilities of being main girlTo you, maybe. Cari seems to have a differing idea as to what a "side girl" is based on the quote I screenie'd.
This train of thought i like. Calypso being tied to main plot giving off main girl energy is the strongest angle i've read so far and i like it
by that logic, if someone is scripted to be on orion path no matter what doesnt that make her consolation prize? "even if you fuck up your chances with every other girl calypso is still there to pick their sloppy seconds aka orion". it does not give main girl energy, its gives participation trophy vibe
It doesn't have to be a sloppy second though. Like, in OIAT, there is Etereum ending if you fail every LI on purpose. Perhaps, there will be a unique ending with Calypso by failing every LI, as well.by that logic, if someone is scripted to be on orion path no matter what doesnt that make her consolation prize? "even if you fuck up your chances with every other girl calypso is still there to pick their sloppy seconds aka orion". it does not give main girl energy, its gives participation trophy vibe
apples and oranges. we were not comparing oiat and eternum, we were discussing if scripting someone to end up with orion no matter what (cant lose her path) makes her most important or least important girl
