Elhemeer

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Agreed. I'd say that by that point, Caribdis had probably already gotten much better, and was most likely already working on Eternium. He would have kept the art style in OIAL the same for consistency, and added the new art to wet our appetites for the next game.
Watched the video. According to the secret ending, Eternium was already out when he finished OIAL.
 

Dorfnutter

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Watched the video. According to the secret ending, Eternium was already out when he finished OIAL.
Secret Ending also implies that Eternum is basically Cyberpunk 2020/2077's Braindance except you're hooked on the net and you get to play the character you're inhabiting instead of just watching it play out like in actual Braindance...which is completely different from how it actually plays in the VN now (it's a full-fledged VRMMO minus the "live-the-life-of-another-person" feature that the Secret Ending has). My theory though is that this is basically what Eternum as a concept probably was before Caribdis rewrote it into what it is now, but liked the idea quite enough that he used it for a Secret (and non-canonical) Ending.
 
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Watched the video. According to the secret ending, Eternium was already out when he finished OIAL.
Good point. When my run of the game ended (Shoulda named my character Ash, 'cuz I got 'em all), there was a brief mention of Eternium coming out "next year".

I'd count this as more of a Easter egg.
 

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i really wish that the secret ending in OAIL wa canon. the idea of all the things that happened through out the game being just a dream or an eternum game is such an interesting concept to me.:illuminati:
 

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i really wish that the secret ending in OAIL wa canon. the idea of all the things that happened through out the game being just a dream or an eternum game is such an interesting concept to me.:illuminati:
You say that, but that kind of thing has been done before... and it's always terrible.

Would basically completely invalidate the entire story, right at the end, and that's not a good way of making people like it.
 

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You say that, but that kind of thing has been done before... and it's always terrible.

Would basically completely invalidate the entire story, right at the end, and that's not a good way of making people like it.
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You say that, but that kind of thing has been done before... and it's always terrible.

Would basically completely invalidate the entire story, right at the end, and that's not a good way of making people like it.

Hmmm...

maybe you're right, but to me OIALT felt generic and a "too good to be true" kinda story (not to say that it was bad by any means). it would make sense for it to be a dream or a game so it can be an exposition for Eternum. maybe you guys value the story much more than i do..:unsure:
 
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Hmmm...

maybe you're right, but to me OIALT felt generic and a "too good to be true" kinda story (not to say that it was bad by any means). it would make sense for it to be a dream or a game so it can be an expedition for Eternum. maybe you guys value the story much more than me..:unsure:
Overall plot's been done before, but the execution and character development are decent and the humor is on point. Add the fact that some of the scenes are well done despite the renders having been made on aging software (Honey Select 1) and it being the dev's first VN, and you can see why some people value it highly compared to somewhat more polished VN's in this site (i.e. CoBD, Depraved Awakening). Bonus points also for the dev's work ethic and completing the game without making it overstay its welcome.

Also, not every story needs to have a tragic or bittersweet or downright depressing outcome. Too often have stories in this day and age just make things so bleak and serious that when we do get cheery endings or no-drama resolutions like OIAL's canon ending it feels too fantastical somehow...which shouldn't be the case. And while I agree that OIAL could've been better if the story had more struggles and certain events weren't resolved quickly, having the entire journey be disregarded for some Mr. Robot-tier twist ending is just absolutely bad storytelling, especially since there were no hints or foreshadowing that would indicate that the story could possibly go for that kind of direction.
 

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Overall plot's been done before, but the execution and character development are decent and the humor is on point. Add the fact that some of the scenes are well done despite the renders having been made on aging software (Honey Select 1) and it being the dev's first VN, and you can see why some people value it highly compared to somewhat more polished VN's in this site (i.e. CoBD, Depraved Awakening). Bonus points also for the dev's work ethic and completing the game without making it overstay its welcome.

Also, not every story needs to have a tragic or bittersweet or downright depressing outcome. Too often have stories in this day and age just make things so bleak and serious that when we do get cheery endings or no-drama resolutions like OIAL's canon ending it feels too fantastical somehow...which shouldn't be the case. And while I agree that OIAL could've been better if the story had more struggles and certain events weren't resolved quickly, having the entire journey be disregarded for some Mr. Robot-tier twist ending is just absolutely bad storytelling, especially since there were no hints or foreshadowing that would indicate that the story could possibly go for that kind of direction.
yeah i understand where you're coming from now :). i just wish that eternum will not have the same exact harem ending as OIALT and that it would rather have a plot twist and also what you called a "Mr.Robot tier- ending" because the writing in this game has been really impressive and it would be a shame for it to just end like the last game. but i totally trust the dev to deliver anyways ;)
 
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yeah i understand where you're coming from now :). i just wish that eternum will not have the same exact harem ending as OIALT and that it would rather have a plot twist and also what you called a "Mr.Robot tier- ending" because the writing in this game has been really impressive and it would be a shame for it to just end like the last game. but i totally trust the dev to deliver anyways ;)
I am fairly certain it is going to have a happy ending - if you are looking for a different type of ending this is not the right game for it. This is for the most part a wholesome and happy game. I would be very surprised if things turned out differently. And whats wrong with happy too good to be true endings? Not everything needs to be realistic or filled with drama.
 
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I am fairly certain it is going to have a happy ending - if you are looking for a different type of ending this is not the right game for it. This is for the most part a wholesome and happy game. I would be very surprised if things turned out differently. And whats wrong with happy too good to be true endings? Not everything needs to be realistic or filled with drama.

nah i don't care if the ending is happy or not, i just want it to be creatively done. unfotunately, i found the ending of OIALT a bit lacking but good nonetheless.
 

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yeah i understand where you're coming from now :). i just wish that eternum will not have the same exact harem ending as OIALT and that it would rather have a plot twist and also what you called a "Mr.Robot tier- ending" because the writing in this game has been really impressive and it would be a shame for it to just end like the last game. but i totally trust the dev to deliver anyways ;)
nah i don't care if the ending is happy or not, i just want it to be creatively done. unfotunately, i found the ending of OIALT a bit lacking but good nonetheless.
You'd best prepare for disappointment if you think this game isn't going to make the harem ending canon like OIAL, especially with how much emphasis there is this time around on the girls working and interacting as a group instead of just the standard pair-that-acts-like-their-own-clique (i.e. Lauren-Julie, Julie-Iris, Lauren-Aiko, Lauren-Jasmine).

As for HOW the canon ending might play out this time around (cause I'm assuming this is going to have multiple endings again), well it's still too early to say but I myself have a...let's just call it "hunch" as to what it might be. But that all depends if the theories that I have in my conspiracy board all play out without some out-of-nowhere twist upending the entire thing.
 
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nah i don't care if the ending is happy or not, i just want it to be creatively done. unfotunately, i found the ending of OIALT a bit lacking but good nonetheless.
Eternum is very likely going to be the same - it is written to be a happy harem game and I think that is exactly what we are going to get. I like this - not every game needs to be some crazy mindfuck. There are plenty of other games that try to pull out plot twists out of nowhere and in my opinion it is overdone. I just want a simple wholesome game that makes me happy.
 

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Eternum is very likely going to be the same - it is written to be a happy harem game and I think that is exactly what we are going to get. I like this - not every game needs to be some crazy mindfuck. There are plenty of other games that try to pull out plot twists out of nowhere and in my opinion it is overdone. I just want a simple wholesome game that makes me happy.
Which is funny because Eternum likely getting a happy ending is, oddly enough, something that goes against the norm given the kind of endings that most mystery stories with horror and supernatural elements usually get. Wouldn't be surprised if one of the bad endings play this out, given that OIAL itself has some bad endings that usually play out like the ending/s that you would expect from a bad adventure horror movie.

Also, the VRMMO itself is already a mindfuck in terms of what's being hinted to be going on under the hood so having funny or SoL moments to break the tension and seriousness of the plot is welcome. Even Kentaro Miura (bless the man) eventually learned that not every chapter of Berserk needs to be about rape or gore or wholesale slaughter. Shit gets tiring after all.
 
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Eternum is very likely going to be the same - it is written to be a happy harem game and I think that is exactly what we are going to get. I like this - not every game needs to be some crazy mindfuck. There are plenty of other games that try to pull out plot twists out of nowhere and in my opinion it is overdone. I just want a simple wholesome game that makes me happy.
I would be careful respecting to wishes... As elsalamandra said in resume, good stories are well planned and as the narrative plot goes further there are some events, comments to draw he attention of the reader, sometimes expand the vision, others is a relief for the reader's tension, because if you want just something and just one, you can end with a Universe like i expose in this chart ;v
Well... we can now assume the dev is making a Caribdisverse of his works... I expect he design it well without making a mess of characters doing things impossible to achieve, or being impossible to do because of the illegality of the matters... Like the Supreme Fatherhood of in Overflowverse...

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I recognize this game as a bit unrealistic in terms of the direction it is heading (towards a harem where all girls will accept only you as their love interest and is ok with it assuming it's following similar path like OiaLT). Despite this, I play this game for that exact reason. I am looking for an escape from reality where I can genuinely be happy and not have to worry about the drama and the nuisances asking myself what if or should I. I never have to doubt myself, whereas in life choices are not always black and white.

The answer to this game is simple - treat the girls with respect and care, always put them first and they will be happy. In turn, this makes me happy. This type of game doesn't work for everybody, but it definitely works for me. I can confidently say that every time I end my session there is always a smile on my face.
 
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