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Bomarzo_

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Harem is less realistic, more like a lil escapist fantasy that satisfies all your urges but doesn't leave good closure. A solo route feels more complete and in touch with reality, less diversification too. Don't get me wrong, I support polyamour, it's just that going for more than 2-3 girls makes you more aware of the "porny" nature of the story xD
Your argument would have merit if going solo didn't kill 50% of the game's content
 

Dogorti

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Harem is less realistic, more like a lil escapist fantasy that satisfies all your urges but doesn't leave good closure. A solo route feels more complete and in touch with reality, less diversification too. Don't get me wrong, I support polyamour, it's just that going for more than 2-3 girls makes you more aware of the "porny" nature of the story xD
It's xenoblade chronicles "porny" for having a harem? NO. so in my books having a harem is based as fuck.lol
 

Takkatakka

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I mean...that is an actual superstition in the real world as well. :ROFLMAO:

As I said: It can be anything, considering the "OiaL" and Eternum Universe so far it probably is..."something™" and we can theorize about it all day, but for now we haven't even seen it in "action" (however that would look like).
 
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It Depend on the game.
Funny you say that seeing as in OIAL leaving (some) LIs behind supposedly exposed them to mortal danger because of the remaining lower level cult of Astaroth. Now that is something i would have felt bad about. Imagine tearing those relationships between the characters apart...
 

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Harem is less realistic, more like a lil escapist fantasy that satisfies all your urges but doesn't leave good closure. A solo route feels more complete and in touch with reality, less diversification too. Don't get me wrong, I support polyamour, it's just that going for more than 2-3 girls makes you more aware of the "porny" nature of the story xD
the harem ending of OIAL was really wholesome tho. i loved the pictures, also that every girl got at least on solo picture with the mc. i would have loved to see solo endings (Carla solo ending plzzzzzzzzzzzz) but i can imagine writing solo endings would be bothersome... but it would be really fking awesome if he decided to do them.
 
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gargamel44

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the harem ending of OIAL was really wholesome tho. i loved the pictures, also that every girl got at least on solo picture with the mc. i would have loved to see solo endings (Carla solo ending plzzzzzzzzzzzz) but i can imagine writing solo endings would be bothersome... but it would be really fking awesome if he decided to do them.
Yeah, like I said it's just about the immersion for me. Having an ending focused on only one character would actually feel like the character has a good conclusion. Harem is a bit out there, although the moment with the two sisters in the last scene was pretty good. But again, it works because it was only the two of them. The others were just in the background xD
 

Dorfnutter

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Huh? Just do every route? Also I'm not saying I'm against harem endings, I just find solo endings more logical.
Well, they are. But the way Cari is currently writing Eternum is that a significant chunk of the story is intrinsically tied to an LI's route, which is different compared to other games where solo routes and harem routes have a unique path that players could choose to follow. Here, if you lose one route, you pretty much lock yourself out of certain parts of the story, so going harem is pretty much the optimal path if you want to get the full story experience.

Not to mention Cari is likely to make the harem route canon anyway like what he did in OIAL, so.../shrugs

Harem is a bit out there, although the moment with the two sisters in the last scene was pretty good. But again, it works because it was only the two of them. The others were just in the background xD
Which Cari has rectified in this game by making every member of the harem essential to the plot. No Jasmine-type characters here (where an LI really has no story significance save for being related to one of the important characters in the story), no undercooked characters like Aiko or Iris (/grits his teeth and tries to contain his anger upon remembering how much wasted potential Iris was). Everyone gets to take part in the story this time around-

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.../sigh Yes, Chang. That also includes you.

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gargamel44

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Well, they are. But the way Cari is currently writing Eternum is that a significant chunk of the story is intrinsically tied to an LI's route, which is different compared to other games where solo routes and harem routes have a branching separate path that players could choose to follow. Here, if you lose one route, you pretty much lock yourself out of certain parts of the story, so going harem is pretty much the optimal path if you want to get the full story experience.

Not to mention Cari is likely to make the harem route canon anyway like what he did in OIAL, so.../shrugs



Which Cari has rectified in this game by making every member of the harem essential to the plot. No Jasmine-type characters here (where an LI really has no story significance save for being related to one of the important characters in the story), no undercooked characters like Aiko or Iris (/grits his teeth and tries to contain his anger upon remembering how much wasted potential Iris was). Everyone gets to take part in the story this time around-

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I agree with your point, and that's why I asked about the solo endings since it didn't seem likely to happen XD. Ofc, the game is made for harem and that's why I'll play the harem route. Gotta see all the content possible and then, if there are solo endings, I'll go for them.
 
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Well, they are. But the way Cari is currently writing Eternum is that a significant chunk of the story is intrinsically tied to an LI's route, which is different compared to other games where solo routes and harem routes have a unique path that players could choose to follow. Here, if you lose one route, you pretty much lock yourself out of certain parts of the story, so going harem is pretty much the optimal path if you want to get the full story experience.

Not to mention Cari is likely to make the harem route canon anyway like what he did in OIAL, so.../shrugs



Which Cari has rectified in this game by making every member of the harem essential to the plot. No Jasmine-type characters here (where an LI really has no story significance save for being related to one of the important characters in the story), no undercooked characters like Aiko or Iris (/grits his teeth and tries to contain his anger upon remembering how much wasted potential Iris was). Everyone gets to take part in the story this time around-

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Yeah, the way Caribdis treated some LI in OILT was the biggest mistake he made. I mean, don't get me wrong I loved every Li in OILT (yeah even Jasmine :devilish:) but you can't feel the same attachment to them. Iris is a wasted potentiel, Aiko appear in the story way too late and Jasmine doesn't even know what's going on.
Another flaw in the writting in OILT was the fact that the MC could be in relationship with every LI without having to tell them he was having an "Harem" ( Judie and Lauren found out during their conversation and Carla guessed the whole thing). I do hope in Eternum that won't be the case, the LI won't miraculousely accept that.
However, with the way things go in Eternum, each LI having a real impact on the story and being integrated into the story tells me that won't be the case but who knows except Caribdis himself :unsure:
 

Dorfnutter

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Yeah, the way Caribdis treated some LI in OILT was the biggest mistake he made. I mean, don't get me wrong I loved every Li in OILT (yeah even Jasmine :devilish:) but you can't feel the same attachment to them. Iris is a wasted potentiel, Aiko appear in the story way too late and Jasmine doesn't even know what's going on.
Another flaw in the writting in OILT was the fact that the MC could be in relationship with every LI without having to tell them he was having an "Harem" ( Judie and Lauren found out during their conversation and Carla guessed the whole thing ). I do hope in Eternum that won't be the case, the LI won't miraculousely accept that.
However, with the way things go in Eternum, each LI having a real impact on the story and being integrated into the story tells me that won't be the case but who knows except Caribdis himself :unsure:
Considering that this game is gunning for a story length that's "between 12 to 20 updates," I'm sure there's plenty of time for the harem members to find out that Orion really is building a harem...and address it with the ones involved and slowly come to terms with that.
 
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Harem is less realistic, more like a lil escapist fantasy that satisfies all your urges but doesn't leave good closure. A solo route feels more complete and in touch with reality, less diversification too. Don't get me wrong, I support polyamour, it's just that going for more than 2-3 girls makes you more aware of the "porny" nature of the story xD
Are you aware that harem is a real thing, and that you can find multiple occurrences of harems in the history of humanity, there are even entire cultures that take that into account and have laws and customs governing it ? How is that make it less realistic ?
 

gargamel44

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Are you aware that harem is a real thing, and that you can find multiple occurrences of harems in the history of humanity, there are even entire cultures that take that into account and have laws and customs governing it ? How is that make it less realistic ?
1. Bruh.
2. *Facepalm*
3. This is not the argument you think it is.
 

hitmebaby

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Yeh yeh, makes sense xD I can't say from experience though, I've never had a problem with cheating and none of my friends had one either. Also cheating is not a problem of "monogamy" per se, it's a problem of not knowing when to end a relationship. Sure, polyamour takes care of that problem, but it's not like you can just decide you don't want a solo relationship. I could never accept a third wheel (or be a third wheel) in a relationship.
I said everyone i've known of. i have few friends but i've known thousands of ppl. thousands of ppl are more representative of society than our few buddies.
In my opinion we are polygamous by nature and instinct therefore trying to go against biological imperatives is futile and more importantly monogamy is not even a good idea. pp cheat because they desire many but force themselves to fit a bourgeois idea of family that is a construct and completely unnatural.
Having sex with a couple doesn't make one less of a person. Third wheeling is a matter of priorities in relationships not a matter importance as ppl. I don't think of ppl as less or more and I try to have partners that are already poly cause we are usually already on the same page.
 
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Harem is less realistic, more like a lil escapist fantasy that satisfies all your urges but doesn't leave good closure. A solo route feels more complete and in touch with reality, less diversification too. Don't get me wrong, I support polyamour, it's just that going for more than 2-3 girls makes you more aware of the "porny" nature of the story xD
This game is not realistic though nor is it meant to be realistic. It is clearly written to be a harem game from the very beginning - the game's design reflects that. If you just go for one girl, the only thing that happens is you end up skipping most of the game's content. If you are looking for realism I would recommend looking elsewhere. I would recommend something like STWA: Unbroken if you are looking for something a bit more realistic. I have also heard good things about Summer's Gone although I have not played it yet.

The reason I say this is because it is written as a lighthearted and fun harem game with a harem in mind and you should not be setting incorrect expectations. Realism is not on the dev's priority list nor should it be. Not every game needs to be realistic and you can have both harem games that require suspension of disbelief and realistic games. More diversity is always a good thing and I think if you are in it for a realistic experience you will only get disappointed by this game.
 

gargamel44

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This game is not realistic though nor is it meant to be realistic. It is clearly written to be a harem game from the very beginning - the game's design reflects that. If you just go for one girl, the only thing that happens is you end up skipping most of the game's content. If you are looking for realism I would recommend looking elsewhere. I would recommend something like STWA: Unbroken if you are looking for something a bit more realistic. I have also heard good things about Summer's Gone although I have not played it yet.

The reason I say this is because it is written as a lighthearted and fun harem game with a harem in mind and you should not be setting incorrect expectations. Realism is not on the dev's priority list nor should it be. Not every game needs to be realistic and you can have both harem games that require suspension of disbelief and realistic games. More diversity is always a good thing and I think if you are in it for a realistic experience you will only get disappointed by this game.
Thus why I was asking about solo endings.
 
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Thus why I was asking about solo endings.
Yeah I understand. The reason I made my post is because I would not be surprised if they are not very well fleshed out since:

1. There are so many girls and making super detailed endings for them all will be far too time consuming especially for the non-canon ending. This is not like JVNs/dating sims where each girl has a proper path with proper endings. I think the solo endings will be very brief and short because that is just the more practical thing to do.
2. The game is written with a harem ending in mind.

If you want to do solo girl routes go for it. But just set the right expectations and dont be disappointed if you dont get what you are looking for.
 

gargamel44

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Yeah I understand. The reason I made my post is because I would not be surprised if they are not very well fleshed out since:

1. There are so many girls and making super detailed endings for them all will be far too time consuming especially for the non-canon ending. This is not like JVNs/dating sims where each girl has a proper path with proper endings. I think the solo endings will be very brief and short because that is just the more practical thing to do.
2. The game is written with a harem ending in mind.

If you want to do solo girl routes go for it. But just set the right expectations and dont be disappointed if you dont get what you are looking for.
I think I have the liberty to be disappointed since I'm a human being, but I understand your point xD And no, I do not expect a super fleshed out ending for everyone, I just prefer a more focused one. But I don't believe he will make a clumsy harem ending like in OIALT, he has the tools to pull it off and make it conclusive for every character. I just don't think I can be completely satisfied by it. Personal tastes I guess xD
 
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