cayseron

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Yeez why so serious? It feels like youre a bit over-sensitive from my pov.

Why wouldnt you want to make a spicy bet? The bet and "scummy loophole" are called flirting, youre making it sound like Dalia gave Orian the blowjob because of technicalities while it was obvious that she did it because she wanted to.

You said everything about the password yourself, maybe dont tell secrets of a girl to everyone when she asks you to.

Physically assault and not wanting to be a criminal ... is really the maximum of dramaqueen wording you could create for that sequenze of events. They are in a fighting gym and the other guy literally taunts orion to try it, im not sure where youre from but there is barely any country you would end up in jail over that lol

I never "took the dip" and cant say anything about it

Not trying to attack you but you kinda sound like the most sheltered person in existance :ROFLMAO:
hahahaha "maximum of dramaqueen wording" is perfect description :D
when you try to create a satire making it sound satirical is kind of a point. But yeah, point still stands narratively speaking you cant be on dalias path unless you sucker punch someone which is kinda dumb. Pointing that out is nothing more than observation anyone can make. You do not punch the guy to protect her or in self defence, you literally do it to be a dick and then double down on being a dick by using it as manipulative loophole. I never said this path given is bad, i am saying it feels very bad that its only path you have with dalia
 
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hahahaha "maximum of dramaqueen wording" is perfect description :D
when you try to create a satire making it sound satirical is kind of a point. But yeah, point still stands narratively speaking you cant be on dalias path unless you sucker punch someone which is kinda dumb. Pointing that out is nothing more than observation anyone can make. You do not punch the guy to protect her or in self defence, you literally do it to be a dick and then double down on being a dick by using it as manipulative loophole. I never said this path given is bad, i am saying it feels very bad that its only path you have with dalia
It wasn't a sucker punch. Dude was facing MC and literally begging for it.
 

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It wasn't a sucker punch. Dude was facing MC and literally begging for it.
semantics, if a president comes to you and say "come on punch me if you dare" fully knowing that if you do he will have you arrested and he is 100% certain that you wont punch him, just because he is facing you and daring you to punch him does not mean he is expecting to be punched.
 

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hahahaha "maximum of dramaqueen wording" is perfect description :D
when you try to create a satire making it sound satirical is kind of a point. But yeah, point still stands narratively speaking you cant be on dalias path unless you sucker punch someone which is kinda dumb. Pointing that out is nothing more than observation anyone can make. You do not punch the guy to protect her or in self defence, you literally do it to be a dick and then double down on being a dick by using it as manipulative loophole. I never said this path given is bad, i am saying it feels very bad that its only path you have with dalia
Okay yeah, i can agree with you that its dumb to drop out of her path not doing it. It was more about the way your described it for me :ROFLMAO:
 

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Okay yeah, i can agree with you that its dumb to drop out of her path not doing it. It was more about the way your described it for me :ROFLMAO:
oh yeah absolutely, i was just trying to exaggerate to maximum how ridiculous it is to follow her path :D
obviously i like the spicy bet and its cool thing to have that option. One thing i want to say is that i am disappointed that not trying to manipulate dalia equals insta loss of her path. Like, okay give Orion option to get his way through these little loopholes i dont mind. But after replaying the game over and over and going through the same scenes especially after going back through the old scenes knowing how they develop i wish that you can just genuinely care for dalia and do things for her not for a bet. Like narratively speaking nothing needs to change and you can still end up in the same location without being manipulative asshole. For example instead of making spicy bet (option is already there to say "i dont need anything") make it look like you are doing it because you care for her. Then after competition just be there for her and she can give you BJ because she is grateful you are always there for her instead of honoring a bet that you scummed.

Ok yeah, when i write it down like this it does sound cringy and sappy :p
 
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He hates Dalia? He fucking hates Penny.

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Well said.

However, unfortunately, we're dealing with AVN writers catering to (certainly here) anime pop-culture fanboys who honestly, don't have a clue. Just have to accept it and move on. I've only ever seen one VN do a D/s type relationship half-realistically....it's nearly all alpha male fantasy fullfillment catering to specific demographic.
 
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if we have tis , it means MC is on Harem route with all the gals?? ow can we see if we are on harem path with all the girls? with previous Sancho Mod you were able to check it...with Joker we can't (or i can see anything about this...don't really know if the mod works right to say the truth...no green choice popped up for now..but i only played a tiny bit of the update...i'm just after the Sirens attak...and any tips for my sound issue? (can't hear any sound, but only a weird Tac noise every 30 sec...music works fine.thanks
 

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hahahaha "maximum of dramaqueen wording" is perfect description :D
when you try to create a satire making it sound satirical is kind of a point. But yeah, point still stands narratively speaking you cant be on dalias path unless you sucker punch someone which is kinda dumb. Pointing that out is nothing more than observation anyone can make. You do not punch the guy to protect her or in self defence, you literally do it to be a dick and then double down on being a dick by using it as manipulative loophole. I never said this path given is bad, i am saying it feels very bad that its only path you have with dalia
canonically Orion punches Axel the first time they met for trying things on Annie, no questions, straight from the punch.

Him being an impulsive mf is a canon character trait of him, especially when said person in question is a jealous asshole, totally deserved punch.
 
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Well said.

However, unfortunately, we're dealing with AVN writers catering to (certainly here) anime pop-culture fanboys who honestly, don't have a clue. Just have to accept it and move on. I've only ever seen one VN do a D/s type relationship half-realistically....it's nearly all alpha male fantasy fullfillment catering to specific demographic.
"Well said"

and it's the worst character reading I've ever seen.
 
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played it now, damn this update was amazing felt like in a cinema, top tier! but am I the only one who is disappointed with the dalia scene? I mean she talked always how tough she is, can take it way harder than penny but than even the gentle annie took it harder. (and in the last scene i see more orion ass than her haha)
felt like that alex scene was the best again,i dont know its my opinion but somehow it feels like that nancy and dalia going in the background (just with the scene)
 

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canonically Orion punches Axel the first time they met for trying things on Annie, no questions, straight from the punch.

Him being an impulsive mf is a canon character trait of him, especially when said person in question is a jealous asshole, totally deserved punch.
not sure how we got here though. yes orion being cocky and aggresive is canon. that is what got him shot in 0.7, he was purposefully written to be arrogant and asshole to everyone and by 0.7 those traits were spreading to him being dick and possesive of girls and universe said "ok enough is enough". that is why in 0.8 he tries to change and focuse on whats important to him and how suddenly he has fears and is more humble and selfaware
 

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For the patrons, does Cari make a feedback post or something for the updates? Seeing so many with divided opinions but wonder if he even hears them
 

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I originally posted this in the Eternum subreddit, but they have a dumb rule where you're not allowed to talk about spoilers, even if it's spoiler tagged and hidden, so I'll post it here.

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It is Harem-Logic, so I think we just need to accept as it is. Once you try to question it - as you eloquently do - you just see the holes and how it simply would never work. I guess suspense of disbelieving is the only way to enjoy the story.

He is writing himself in way too many corners that are just not possible to resolve otherwise, so I just go along with it.
 

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Well I've been beginning to think that the "Gems of Doom" are more than just the namesake. Idriel has hinted at her collective had been watching Orion with interest because of his peculiar powers and ability to do things that go against what they expected. My guess is they are focused on nihilism and predict the end of the "world", or maybe all worlds when all 10 gems of doom are collected, and believe this is a fated event. However, they noticed that Orion is capable of making choices and actions going outside their predicted results (the coin which is constantly brought up), and Idriel commenting that no matter how many times Orion has reached death's door he has defied fate's intention each time.
 

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Whether the behaviour is arrogance or carelessness, internal consistency is not Caribdis's strength as a writer. He's an excellent writers of "situations" and leans into that, which is why Eternum feels like a sitcom. This leads to a lot of inconsistencies in the narrative so he can get the most bang out of the scenarios he dreams up.

As such, I wouldn't put too much stock into Orion's motivations for behaving so riskily. Caribdis serves the scenario, not the plausibility.

Obviously, I would like him to have both, but honestly, Eternum is best played without thinking too much. It's wonderful in so many ways, but there is no doubt that it is best to play with the brain switched firmly off.
As a writer I rate Ciribdis very highly, compared to most mediocre AVNs, I would award him second place among all.
 
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