VN Ren'Py Eternum [v0.8.5 Public] [Caribdis]

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1tomadeira

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axel, eternumite taking photo with penelope, dalia's wizard guy, emperor, yoga instructor, the two hogwarts wizards at summoning duel, benjamin, gladiator during the match, nancys husband when she talks about him, gladiator dwarf coach, lunas dad whiteknighting against jerry at the quiz, the model agent, teacher is shown as lazy and corrupt, roman guy wanting to scam nancy at her first play

and I'm only at the start of the heist...

good have been maximo, the gladiator after the match, lunas dad aside from the quiz.

just gives feminist vibes if so many men are shown in a bad light, and it makes MC look like a whiteknight if he has to constantly 'save' the girls and be hostile to the other guys. its unpleasant.


PS: thanks for answering so many questions in the last weeks btw. :)
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With all due respect, but being the greatest bachelor in the entire universe to the point of having an harem with your childhood friend, your babysitter and her 2 daughters, along with their friends and a princess is quite a bit far away of being feminist in my opinion...

One of the scenes clearly shows how fond a girl is for potatoes, as much as I love the girl in that scene I don't see how feminist that is, but fine... everyone has their opinions I guess.

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With all due respect, but being the greatest bachelor in the entire universe to the point of having an harem with your childhood friend, your babysitter and her 2 daughters, along with their friends and a princess is quite a bit far away of being feminist in my opinion...

One of the scenes clearly shows how fond a girl is for potatoes, as much as I love the girl in that scene I don't see how feminist that is, but fine... everyone has their opinions I guess.

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Feminism is emancipation. Emancipation is freedom of choice. All the girls in eternum only do a thing if they like it and Orion (devs voice to a degree) thinks its awesome that they can do whatever they want. Anti-feminist would be the position that a woman should not be free to do whatever she wants, but that a man (husband, father, etc.) has say over her life (like forbidding penelope for example to post sexual bikini pics on instagram, or Lunas father having say over if she can just bang Orion or if he needs to marry her first). Being part of a harem is feminist if she is because she wants to be, and it's anti-feminist if she is forced to be.

Thats how I would define it in the broadest sense, the core of feminism. Not sure what people think of nowadays when they hear feminism...

I don't think Orion ever takes authority over any of the girls decisions. But I'm oly at the heist.
 
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Feminism is emancipation. Emancipation is freedom of choice. All the girls in eternum only do a thing if they like it and Orion (devs voice to a degree) thinks its awesome that they can do whatever they want. Anti-feminist would be the position that a woman should not be free to do whatever she wants, but that a man (husband, father, etc.) has say over her life (like forbidding penelope for example to post sexual bikini pics on instagram, or Lunas father having say over if she can just bang Orion or if he needs to marry her first). Being part of a harem is feminist if she is because she wants to be, and it's anti-feminist if she is forced to be.

Thats how I would define it in the broadest sense, the core of feminism. Not sure what people think of nowadays when they hear feminism...

I don't think Orion ever takes authority over any of the girls decisions. But I'm oly at the heist.
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I know that. I also understand that the MC is respectful to the women, unlike many other adult games. I didn't speak for the MC's point of view, I spoke about the player's view. Let's be frank, while we all (mostly) love the game due the story, most also see the girls as pieces of meat (it's fantasy after all, not real life). While Caribdis is an outstanding dev, and his game is stellar, let's not ignore that the game also grew in appeal due it's adult content.

As much as I like Caribdis approach in terms of how women are treated in general in his games, this isn't a lovey-dovey game at most. The girls assets are exceptionally drawn to please the player, besides their personality.

I'm not trying to disdain your argument btw, what you said about feminism in real life it's still true (and I've studied feminism at university btw), and it's true that the game is much more respectful to women than comparing to other games in the same genre, but in the end, the game also has the objective to please the player with the girls. It's a bit as fan service in anime, the MC can be extremely nice to the female characters in anime, but that doesn't mean there isn't some objectification because it sells, it that comparison makes any sense to you, to see what I was trying to say.
 
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I know that. I also understand that the MC is respectful to the women, unlike many other adult games. I didn't speak for the MC's point of view, I spoke about the player's view. Let's be frank, while we all (mostly) love the game due the story, most also see the girls as pieces of meat (it's fantasy after all, not real life). While Caribdis is an outstanding dev, and his game is stellar, let's not ignore that the game also grew in appeal due it's adult content.

As much as I like Caribdis approach in terms of how women are treated in general in his games, this isn't a lovey-dovey game at most. The girls assets are exceptionally drawn to please the player, besides their personality.

I'm not trying to disdain your argument btw, what you said about feminism in real life it's still true (and I've studied feminism at university btw), and it's true that the game is much more respectful to women than comparing to other games in the same genre, but in the end, the game also has the objective to please the player with the girls. It's a bit as fan service in anime, the MC can be extremely nice to the female characters in anime, but that doesn't mean there isn't some objectification because it sells, it that comparison makes any sense to you, to see what I was trying to say.
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I think I disagree on almost everything. See it rather similar to Krytax.

But I appreciate the friendly conversation. :)
 
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How important is it to play once in a lifetime before this? I am probably planning to either way, but just wondering how much the two are connected.
 
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halite said:
How important is it to play once in a lifetime before this? I am probably planning to either way, but just wondering how much the two are connected.
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You have some references, but Eternum does not really "build upon" OIALT. It's the same world and one OIALT character (Stabby Mike) is referenced in Eternum, but, as yet, he doesn't play a role. (He did play an active role, however, in his Ripples cameo. :LOL:)
 
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How important is it to play once in a lifetime before this? I am probably planning to either way, but just wondering how much the two are connected.
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They basically take place in the same universe (OIAL takes place in 2021 while Eternum takes place in 2034), but aside from some references to certain characters and items they are not narratively connected to one another (meaning you're not required to play OIAL to understand Eternum).
 
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One of the best porn game !
Very good story ,long game play,alot of characters ,very beautiful girls
There are only a few weaknesses such as: All the girls are too lewd and too proactive, easily giving themselves up, too many BJ, HJ scenes while too few or almost the male main character does not care about using his hands to fondle the female character's body, especially always avoiding the breasts that make main male character seem like prey or fire hydrant being huntting by girls (if anyone likes strong and proactive main male, it will be disappointing).. The most serious is that the dev deleted the comments pointing out the game's shortcomings, a negative censorship!
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Huh most of the sex scenes are rough. Like the nancy scene in elevator or alex scene n her home or penny scence in the studio or the nova scene in her home. The scenes had the girls started off as dominant but mc took over afterwards. Only scene that you can say is soft femdom is calypso but after hearing mc's monologue he will have his getback later. I think cari is a assman because there are spanking scenes. Or he is not confident enough to animate tits because I don't remember any titijob scenes either
 
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1tomadeira said:
I know that. I also understand that the MC is respectful to the women, unlike many other adult games. I didn't speak for the MC's point of view, I spoke about the player's view. Let's be frank, while we all (mostly) love the game due the story, most also see the girls as pieces of meat (it's fantasy after all, not real life). While Caribdis is an outstanding dev, and his game is stellar, let's not ignore that the game also grew in appeal due it's adult content.

As much as I like Caribdis approach in terms of how women are treated in general in his games, this isn't a lovey-dovey game at most. The girls assets are exceptionally drawn to please the player, besides their personality.

I'm not trying to disdain your argument btw, what you said about feminism in real life it's still true (and I've studied feminism at university btw), and it's true that the game is much more respectful to women than comparing to other games in the same genre, but in the end, the game also has the objective to please the player with the girls. It's a bit as fan service in anime, the MC can be extremely nice to the female characters in anime, but that doesn't mean there isn't some objectification because it sells, it that comparison makes any sense to you, to see what I was trying to say.
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Do bear in mind, though, that "player" does not equate "men", at least not 100% :p
 
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1tomadeira said:
I know that. I also understand that the MC is respectful to the women, unlike many other adult games. I didn't speak for the MC's point of view, I spoke about the player's view. Let's be frank, while we all (mostly) love the game due the story, most also see the girls as pieces of meat (it's fantasy after all, not real life). While Caribdis is an outstanding dev, and his game is stellar, let's not ignore that the game also grew in appeal due it's adult content.

As much as I like Caribdis approach in terms of how women are treated in general in his games, this isn't a lovey-dovey game at most. The girls assets are exceptionally drawn to please the player, besides their personality.

I'm not trying to disdain your argument btw, what you said about feminism in real life it's still true (and I've studied feminism at university btw), and it's true that the game is much more respectful to women than comparing to other games in the same genre, but in the end, the game also has the objective to please the player with the girls. It's a bit as fan service in anime, the MC can be extremely nice to the female characters in anime, but that doesn't mean there isn't some objectification because it sells, it that comparison makes any sense to you, to see what I was trying to say.
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Creating easy female characters, always taking the initiative to take off their clothes in front of men even in public, always taking the initiative to crawl into men's crotch even when he hasn't touched or stimulated them much, always taking the initiative to aim straight at men's cocks uncontrollably... I don't think that's the way to create beauty for feminism ^^! And that is not seem like respectiful to the woman ...But yes If it makes the male character look more feminine and less dangerous, then that's true. ^^
 
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