VN Ren'Py Eternum [v0.8.5 Public] [Caribdis]

[Dorfnutter]

I dont remember well, but didn't penelope do the "I say I'm not sure, although I really really want you to go further"-thing?

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Simps/whiteknights may mean what they say, but the reason they do it is not genuine kindness but an exchange - kind words in hopes for sex.

Really now? Is that how you see it? Cause last I checked simps/whiteknights are do-gooders expecting some kind of reward but they more often than not never receive it because they're usually portrayed as cowards or turbo-virgins who never really plan beyond just being someone's doormat. Contrast that to Orion who may seem like a simp/whiteknight but is an absolute horndog who does shit to get laid to the point that he doesn't hesitate to drop the do-gooder behavior when the opportunity for a lay presents itself (at least, prior to the ending of 0.7).

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[MWPA78]

So what you mean to say is that you want him to be more forthright about his intentions? It's an interesting take for sure. I mean this is a game so with the extension of disbelief the pit-bull thing would have never crossed my mind.

In Orion's defense, he can't just instruct her not to do what makes her genuinely happy in some misguided effort to course-correct for her. The fastest way to lose a new friend is to try to smother them with your guiding wing.

If Orion is thinking critically, which with a brain like his he better be, he's probably already considered that and thought about how she feels and decided not to breach the subject because he believes that it's not his choice to make for her.

Yeah, I enjoy watching MCs who are genuinely kind and don't hide that they also like to fuck.

I agree, I also wouldn't tell a new friend what to do - if he's a guy. But MC doesn't want dalia as a friend, he wants her as a girlfriend, and contrary to popular showing in progressive movies and such, if a girl is into you, which dalia obviously is, they like being told what to do, and they especially like a guy who is not afraid to tell them what they don't wanna hear - as it shows them he will be honest in everything and that they can really actually trust him. Girls still like dominant masculine guys imo, even if they say otherwise when asked. As the saying goes: Dont listen to what they say, look at what they do. lol

 

[MWPA78]

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Really now? Is that how you see it? Cause last I checked simps/whiteknights are do-gooders expecting some kind of reward but they more often than not never receive it because they're usually portrayed as cowards or turbo-virgins who never really plan beyond just being someone's doormat. Contrast that to Orion who may seem like a simp/whiteknight but is an absolute horndog who does shit to get laid to the point that he doesn't hesitate to drop the do-gooder behavior when the opportunity for a lay presents itself (at least, prior to the ending of 0.7).

If simps/whiteknights understood it in their heart that what they do doesn't work they wouldn't do it.

MC is not simping in every single situation, in that japanese concubines scene he was just merely a weakling for not doing what he wanted. But he still simps a lot imo. And in a sense he kinda simped for the two japanese chicks, as he would have abandoned important matters to have sex with them.

About your first example: I cannot believe you are serious, Dorfnutter. Manipulating? She practically begged him to continue. Until just recently every man knew that "no" many times means "yes" if shes attracted to the guy, and thats how Caribdis used it here. MC just did exactly what she wanted. If thats your definition of a bad boy...
But it was not simping, thats true.

 

[Dorfnutter]

MC is not simping in every single situation, in that japanese concubines scene he was just merely a weakling for not doing what he wanted. But he still simps a lot imo. And in a sense he kinda simped for the two japanese chicks, as he would have abandoned important matters to have sex with them.

That is not simping, that is horndog behavior. Get your definitions right, unless by your definition ANY man who craves for a lay is essentially a simp?

Also, Calypso forcefully teleported Orion out of that situation. Hardly weakling behavior...unless you're suggesting that he should slap a being who can disintegrate him with a mere snap of her fingers for keeping him from getting laid?

Manipulating? She practically begged him to continue.

Yes. By continously fingering her despite her repeatedly saying no until she gave in. Manipulating isn't just verbal, but can also be done through actions. Or do you honestly think that doesn't count?

Until just recently every man knew that "no" many times means "yes" if shes attracted to the guy, and thats how Caribdis used it here.

Sounds like rapist mentality. Hardly something that falls in line with simp/whiteknight behavior, but fits horndog behavior to a T (which Orion is).

 

[Deskitteh]

Yeah, I enjoy watching MCs who are genuinely kind and don't hide that they also like to fuck.

I agree, I also wouldn't tell a new friend what to do - if he's a guy. But MC doesn't want dalia as a friend, he wants her as a girlfriend, and contrary to popular showing in progressive movies and such, if a girl is into you, which dalia obviously is, they like being told what to do, and they especially like a guy who is not afraid to tell them what they don't wanna hear - as it shows them he will be honest in everything and that they can really actually trust him. Girls still like dominant masculine guys imo, even if they say otherwise when asked. As the saying goes: Dont listen to what they say, look at what they do. lol

Be careful what people tell you, because it may not be true... I can assure you with absolute certainty that women do not like being "told" what to do as much as you don't.

 

[MWPA78]

Be careful what people tell you, because it may not be true... I can assure you with absolute certainty that women do not like being "told" what to do as much as you don't.

Sorry, know it first hand.

 

[Krytax123]

Sorry, know it first hand.

Bro youre embarrassing, quite a few girls like masculine and dominant men, thats nothing new. But they still dont like inconsiderate idiots even when they think/pretend to be masculine lol

youre cringe

 

[mike12013]

if a girl is into you, which dalia obviously is, they like being told what to do,

Much Andrew Tate, very wow.

I've been with my partner for over five years now, so i'd hazard a guess and say she's pretty into me

If i sat here and hypothetically told her to stop going to the gym, or reading lewd books or playing games on her phone or whatever bullshit thing you want, i'd expect a fucking slap, not her fawning over me even more.

Call me a feminist, simp, white knight, whatever you like, women have autonomy, they have their own likes and interests. If someone enjoys working out, whether it's for aesthetic reasons, because it helps their mental health or quite simply they enjoy it, not one woman i've ever met in my life would appreciate being told not to do it.

 

[Maccabbee]

Much Andrew Tate, very wow.

I've been with my partner for over five years now, so i'd hazard a guess and say she's pretty into me

If i sat here and hypothetically told her to stop going to the gym, or reading lewd books or playing games on her phone or whatever bullshit thing you want, i'd expect a fucking slap, not her fawning over me even more.

Call me a feminist, simp, white knight, whatever you like, women have autonomy, they have their own likes and interests. If someone enjoys working out, whether it's for aesthetic reasons, because it helps their mental health or quite simply they enjoy it, not one woman i've ever met in my life would appreciate being told not to do it.

Yeah, that last few posts were enough for him to go on "the list." Sad, there were some good conversations. There was also too much stupidity.

 

[insanity10k]

This is the saddest discussion I've ever seen here. Granted, I haven't been here for very long. I hope you guys realize that if Orion Richards were real, he wouldn't want to be dragged into this absolutely braindead argument.

 

[MAGO-DAG]

This is the saddest discussion I've ever seen here. Granted, I haven't been here for very long. I hope you guys realize that if Orion Richards were real, he wouldn't want to be dragged into this absolutely braindead argument.

Just add the troll to ignore and move on! This isn't his first time, the dude is bored, it happens.

Let's discuss whose butt's is better?

 

[CommanderWitcher]

Just add the troll to ignore and move on! This isn't his first time, the dude is bored, it happens.

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Nancy

 

[Deskitteh]

Sorry, know it first hand.

Son, I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but if perverts on a website like F95 have their spines bristle when you say something that's sexist then you have found yourself at a very important, serious crossroad.

 

[Maccabbee]

Nancy

Nova's got butt for days.

 

[Deskitteh]

Just add the troll to ignore and move on! This isn't his first time, the dude is bored, it happens.

Let's discuss whose butt's is better? View attachment 4843194

Dalia all day and every time. You're basically begging the question.

 

[CommanderWitcher]

Nova's got butt for days.

They all have perfect butts honestly. Guess I'm just into MILFs

 

[e6mill]

Dalia all day and every time. You're basically begging the question.

Incorrect.

 

[insanity10k]

Calypso. I will not take any objections.

 

[HiddenDarkness]

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Calypso. I will not take any objections.

 

[minibaer12]

Let's discuss whose butt's is better? View attachment 4843194

Since I'm on the harem path, I think they're all great!