VN Ren'Py Eternum [v0.8.6 Public] [Caribdis]

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B8nee said:
Good evening guys, this is my first post on this forum since I signed up and I wanted to say first of all that this game is a masterpiece, the plot intrigued me from the beginning and when I downloaded this game I waited a bit to be able to play it completely, starting from version 0.8.5 that was published on this forum.

Now that I have finished the game (or at least, what has come out so far) I was wondering what the differences were between version 0.8.5 and version 0.8 that came out a few days ago from the developer's original Patreon. If there are differences, should I play from scratch with the official version made available on Patreon?

And off-topic, I saw that many people here in the comments have Eternum banners in their signatures, can I know if they have been published somewhere or are they made on request?
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Those intermediate versions like 0.8.5 are just the public versions compared to the initial release versions for the higher patreon tiers like 0.8. Most of the time they only contain small bug and typo fixes and maybe an additional render or two (but not this time as far as I know).

Banners are made by people in the forum, there are a bunch of posts with banners you can use for your signature under "Extras" in the op of the Eternum off-topic thread: https://f95zone.to/threads/offtopic-eternum.189773/
 
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hermesh said:
Thank you for an amazing game!

The official walkthrough seems very focused on showing choices only for an "optimal" path, without much specific information. So i created one that dives a bit deeper into those specifics... (see attachement)

20230803: Updated to v0.6

Note: All my walkthroughs are on hold till mid may 2024 (weekends are usually the time i write them & those are filled with training till then). Really annoying cause Eternum 7 is basically done, sorry.

In-Depth Walkthrough for Eternum v.0.6

View attachment 2821121

Local file: View attachment 2821122
Alternative link: Google Drive
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I believe mid may 2024 should have passed a few days ago... any updates?
 
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Eternum [v0.8.4] [Caribdis] - Update only

If you missed it you can find the old Update only patch HERE.

Universal: v0.8.0 -> v0.8.4 [9,09 MB]
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Where can i download update v0.8.0 -> v0.8.4, there is no link anywhere, am i blind?
 
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I'm amazed at how much content there is in 0.8. No wonder it took a while to come out. At first I thought the end of the content was going to come just after our hero got back from the pirate planet, then I thought it was going to come after
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, then I thought it was surely going to end after the dinner date with Annie, and then I thought it was going to end after
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. Nope, then we get a very substantial scene with Alex.
 
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jahall said:
I'm amazed at how much content there is in 0.8. No wonder it took a while to come out. At first I thought the end of the content was going to come just after our hero got back from the pirate planet, then I thought it was going to come after
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, then I thought it was surely going to end after the dinner date with Annie, and then I thought it was going to end after
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. Nope, then we get a very substantial scene with Alex.
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It is because of how the game is designed. There are many games that have larger updates yet they feel significantly shorter when you sit down and play the update.

That is because if you are on the harem path, you see all the content in a single playthrough. Unlike many other games, you dont have unique scenes for monogamous playthroughs and there is literally no reason to pick anything other than the harem route. If you decide not to go harem, you end up skipping entire sections of the game instead seeing new/unique scenes for monogamous paths. The entire development is focused on just the harem route so the dev is not spending their time/effort doing other routes. This allows it to present more content to the player assuming they are on the harem path.

And imo this is a very good decision that the developer made. While branching sounds nice on paper the reality is not many people are going to play the same thing more than once or twice.
 
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agrdtcwa said:
And imo this is a very good decision that the developer made. While branching sounds nice on paper the reality is not many people are going to play the same thing more than once or twice.
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Branching is good on and off paper and the game would be objectively better if it had better branching (incentive to play non harem paths).
There are only a few other games which are at the story quality of eternum and have branching and this is because implementing branching is hard and exponentially increases the development time each update leading to shorter updates or very long update cycles (you can guess what two games I'm talking about).
Therefore like you said it's a good decision for eternum to fully focus on branching path, it might make the game more of a kinetic novel (which removes the big part of being a VN in the first place and reduces replay value) but let's the author tell more compelling story which the player cannot influence but it will probably be better than any game developed by an indie dev trying to implement branching and a good story.
So branching isn't the problem it's the fact that these AVN devs are small ships and cannot manage to do it well.
 
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cowardleech said:
Branching is good on and off paper and the game would be objectively better if it had better branching (incentive to play non harem paths).
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I disagree but that may be because of personal preferences and my own playstyle. I cant be bothered to play the same story twice. Maybe it is different for others. I'd rather the dev spend 8 months making 4 hours worth of content for one path that I am going to play as opposed to him spending those 8 months making a bunch of different branches that would result in me spending just 1 hour per update.

I guess it really depends on how you play and how much time you are willing to invest in the game. For me once I have experienced the plot for the first time, it immediately kills all interest I have for replays - there is not as much to look forward to the second time I play. Skipping feels unsatisfying and going through a story I already know just to get a different lewd scene or even different variations/extra lore makes me bored so I dont care much for replay value.

All the major plot points would have already been covered in the first playthrough and the only thing branches offer in other games are extra background lore and new lewd scenes. However the overall story is still the same so this alone is not enough for me to want to replay. Unless the branches offer radically different stories, I am simply not interested. I like reading stories for the first time and the lewd scenes just make everything better. If only like 10% of the scenes are new each time I replay and explore a branch (especially if I have to replay from the beginning), it is simply not worth it to me.

So for me this development approach is ideal. I have pledged on patreon and a big part of why I pledge is because I know updates will be huge and I will get several hours of entertainment with each update. I would not support a game (outside of a one-off steam purchase) where I need to wait for 8 months just to get 30 minutes of content due to all the branches. But like I said - this is only because of my preferences and playstyle. I guess it sucks for those who are willing to explore all branches. But I am not one of those people so I am happy :)
 
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cowardleech said:
Branching is good on and off paper and the game would be objectively better if it had better branching (incentive to play non harem paths).
There are only a few other games which are at the story quality of eternum and have branching and this is because implementing branching is hard and exponentially increases the development time each update leading to shorter updates or very long update cycles (you can guess what two games I'm talking about).
Therefore like you said it's a good decision for eternum to fully focus on branching path, it might make the game more of a kinetic novel (which removes the big part of being a VN in the first place and reduces replay value) but let's the author tell more compelling story which the player cannot influence but it will probably be better than any game developed by an indie dev trying to implement branching and a good story.
So branching isn't the problem it's the fact that these AVN devs are small ships and cannot manage to do it well.
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In my experience of games with branching, it also makes it almost impossible to produce a game that doesn't have lots of inconsistencies, because there soon become so many possible paths through it that it's all but impossible for the dev to correctly keep track of everything.

Having at last finished the new update, there 's major content with every girl except Penny, which is pretty impressive.
 
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locomakle said:
Once again Caribdis brings a banger of an update (0.8) and is using versioning as it should be done through normal conversion with the interim numbers as fixes. One of the highest AVNs devs out there.
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It warms my heart when semantic versioning is done right. :giggle:
 
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