OnlyNeverNow

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Because this AVN is less of a WEG and more reminiscent of old school JP VNs like Fate/Stay Night where the objective is less on roleplaying the MC (like in other WEGs) and more on finding the optimal/correct choice in order to proceed towards the ending, with the other choices serving as bad end options/route killers.
Makes sense. I guess different strokes, I never liked old school JP vns either.

What is a WEG, if I could ask? Western erotic game?
 

qvcatullus

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This is def my biggest issue with the game, I feel like there's no freedom to roleplay or make any choices, you practically HAVE to play with the walkthrough open.

At that point, why even make dialogue choices? Just straight up ask the player, do you want to be on this girl's route, Y/N?

I'm still salty that choosing to not ask Luna about her gloves after the first eternum play session locks you out of her path forever. Like, fuck me for not bringing up something that clearly makes her uncomfortable out of absolutely nowhere?
I don't use a walkthrough and don't have any trouble. I used a walkthrough after the fact for the dev's previous game just to see what different possible endings there were, and I think I checked to see what the best choices were from the alchemist or something since that wasn't an immediate response.

I'm not trying to brag or anything, I'm just saying the game isn't designed to be *hard,* you just have to know what game you're playing. So often, you are very clearly given multiple choice options where one of these is going to be the right one and picking the others will miss out on relationship points or even close a route. There are plenty of games written in that style of "guess the right answer" and playing around with that and making it fun is often part of the game -- indeed, it's the only real gameplay a storyline game/visual novel might have. Sometimes it's funny (there's at least one popular AVN here which makes searching for the *wrong* answer to get comical game overs a big part of the fun), sometimes it's serious, sometimes it's obvious, sometimes it intentionally isn't and the right answer was complimenting someone's pen (a satirical nod to the nature of the gameplay), sometimes waiting for the payoff (this was clearly the right thing to buy in the shop but why?) is the point, but if you think about it like that it's easy almost all the time to see when there's going to be a right answer and how to find it. The feedback system from the beating hearts and the quicksave/rollback feature is your friend. You're supposed to fiddle. It's not really mean to be played as a roleplay where you pick best girl and get substantially different playthroughs if you focus on different LIs (there are games like that aroudn here), it's a collect-em-all where there's an intended best path and little mistakes are OK but too many or big ones will cut content for worse alternatives.

When you've got options, try each and rollback. If one of them had beating hearts or extra dialogue or what have you, you got it right, probably. If you want the full content in one playthrough, make sure you get most of them right. The game will let you make wrong choices so that it's a game and not totally kinetic, but it almost always gives you the feedback you need more or less immediately.
 

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It's not really mean to be played as a roleplay where you pick best girl and get substantially different playthroughs if you focus on different LIs (there are games like that aroudn here), it's a collect-em-all where there's an intended best path and little mistakes are OK but too many or big ones will cut content for worse alternatives.
yeah I get that. I'm not saying it's difficult or anything, I guess it's more of a matter of personal taste.

but like for me, I feel like there could be more of a middle ground than the way Eternum does it. For example, take a look at Superhuman. That is also a "collect-em-all" where you're not really meant to keep replaying and focusing on different girls, but it uses a lenient point system to decide if you're on routes, rather than a point system AND insisting that you make specific choices at specific times or you get locked out regardless of points.

but I understand that's just not the kind of game Eternum is or even trying to be. just venting my personal preferences i suppose, don't mind me
 

AVNplayer69

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Nah, don't compare Eternum to SG. Both of Ocean's VNs pale in comparison to the content Eternum has, despite being older projects. Sure, it takes quite some time for the updates to come, but you at least know they will arrive, unlike with SG or WIAB, which may take more than a year to come out. You can see the story being resolved and relationships with the characters being developed by each update, unlike any of Ocean's VNs.

Besides, Caribdis does have one VN already completed (Once in a Lifetime), while Ocean can't even reach halfway of any of his works before he decides to remake them.

Exactly this, I don't even remember the names of the characters let alone the plot cuz the interval b/w updates are just too damn long for SG and WIAB(and also BaD on that note).
 

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Pretty sure I made it past there my first play through without buying it but maybe I'm remembering wrong. I seem to remember an option to set off a bomb when you're up there but it's been awhile.
It think you make it past that point either way, but if you don't have the Pendant you "die" in Eternum, so have to respawn and lose some stuff.
 
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Shrimply Pibbles

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I don't remember what's going and stuff has presumably been added/changed in previous episodes. What do I need to wipe for this (and any other games here) so that I can start a completely fresh playthrough without any residue (gallery unlocks and the like) from playing previous versions? Ideally I'd like it to be like I'm playing for the first time ever albeit with the current build. Thanks for any help.
 

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I don't remember what's going and stuff has presumably been added/changed in previous episodes. What do I need to wipe for this (and any other games here) so that I can start a completely fresh playthrough without any residue (gallery unlocks and the like) from playing previous versions? Ideally I'd like it to be like I'm playing for the first time ever albeit with the current build. Thanks for any help.
You have to delete your saves in your Renpy folder.
Code:
C:\Users\YourUsername\AppData\Roaming\RenPy\GameName
And the save folder that's in the game subfolder of your Eternum Folder.
Code:
....\Eternum-0.8.5-pc\game
 
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Shrimply Pibbles

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You have to delete your saves in your Renpy folder.
Code:
C:\Users\YourUsername\AppData\Roaming\RenPy\GameName
And the save folder that's in the game subfolder of your Eternum Folder.
Code:
....\Eternum-0.8.5-pc\game
Thanks for giving actual help instead of "just delete your saves". While looking at folders I noticed one labeled persistent but I wasn't sure that had anything to do with saves or if it just helps the game work.
 
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Thanks for giving actual help instead of "just delete your saves". While looking at folders I noticed one labeled persistent but I wasn't sure that had anything to do with saves or if it just helps the game work.
That's for stuff that's cross-save. Like unlocked gallery images typically.
 

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i have a question. because some songs can't be used due to copyright issues, when 0.9 is released, is there any mod that can replace the new songs with the old songs. like penelope's scene in the car , or alex's scene in the apartment. i feel like these two songs are too perfect to be replaced.
 
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i have a question. because some songs can't be used due to copyright issues, when 0.9 is released, is there any mod that can replace the new songs with the old songs. like penelope's scene in the car , or alex's scene in the apartment. i feel like these two songs are too perfect to be replaced.
Yes, look at the OP.
 
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