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I think that too about Thanatos. And in kind of sure we didn't meet the character yet. He looks like an interesting one because he has some kind of honor, even when he thinks of law of nature to rule everything, because he didn't killed anyone (just stabbed you to take the game) and then just forced Calypso to open the portal. This means he doesn't know that he will need Calypso to open the doors of Acheron.
Well. Thanatos showed in both occasions that he has no interest in killing for the sake of it. Or at all. He just overcomes the obstacles on his path. And a spear through the center of the chest is not a merciful strike to incapacitate. At all :D Just when Orion goes full berserk he's probably extremely resistant or borderline unkillable. While Thanatos seems to be killable. Just very very very hard to. As he said himself, Orion made more damage then most, yet, just, not enough. So there might be 'enough damage' at a certain point.
 
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As he said himself, Orion made more damage then most, yet, just, not enough. So there might be 'enough damage' at a certain point.
Loosely based on what we learned from the Highlander movies, except there can be only one, then it is: Chop off the skull.
 

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Well. Thanatos showed in both occasions that he has no interest in killing for the sake of it. Or at all. He just overcomes the obstacles on his path. And a spear through the center of the chest is not a merciful strike to incapacitate. At all :D Just when Orion goes full berserk he's probably extremely resistant or borderline unkillable. While Thanatos seems to be killable. Just very very very hard to. As he said himself, Orion made more damage then most, yet, just, not enough. So there might be 'enough damage' at a certain point.
I know that Dione is the less powerful weapon of Atlas, but a shoot in the neck (that, as Nova said, should kill anyone) didn't even stopped him, but killed easy a Praetorian. So I think that for some reason Eternum weapons and rules can't damage/kill Thanatos, but MC power can.
 

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I know that Dione is the less powerful weapon of Atlas, but a shoot in the neck (that, as Nova said, should kill anyone) didn't even stopped him, but killed easy a Praetorian. So I think that for some reason Eternum weapons and rules can't damage/kill Thanatos, but MC power can.
Nova also mentioned that they say Thanatos is immortal, there are also a chance that a weapons in Eternum can only kill NPC, Players, and Praetorian we don't know the rules of Eternum, but if Thanatos is immortal (some people also says that Thanatos could be the other person with 100% host compatibility and can't die) Orion could be immortal, maybe there is a rule that an immortal can only be killed by an immortal (also maybe that is the reason why Luna can't see Orion's death is because Orion can't die and he has 100% host comparability).
 
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MC can die in the latest chapter, so he's not immortal.
Yes I can agree to that, but there could be also a chance that you need more time and levels to have a power of an immortal knowing that Thanatos is the person with the highest level in Eternum and Orion is just a beginner maybe he need a couple more levels to achieve the power of an immortal.
 

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Nova also mentioned that they say Thanatos is immortal, there are also a chance that a weapons in Eternum can only kill NPC, Players, and Praetorian we don't know the rules of Eternum, but if Thanatos is immortal (some people also says that Thanatos could be the other person with 100% host compatibility and can't die) Orion could be immortal, maybe there is a rule that an immortal can only be killed by an immortal (also maybe that is the reason why Luna can't see Orion's death is because Orion can't die and he has 100% host comparability).
I think that the MC skill is related to the time loop, because he, in some way, keeps doing something important and others expecting him to achieve something (Syndicate, Idriel, etc).
The 100% compatibility I believe is related to a plot twist like destiny or his father being the Founder, or something like that. And probably Thanatos as an Antagonist has some part to play in all of this and that's why both have 100%. So I think that the 100% isn't the cause, is the consequence, and who they are is the cause.

And about Luna skill seeing nothing in MC future, I believe that is related to Uroboros, because the time loop keeps repeating everything, but at the same time every try is unique so the "future", his future, isn't written. But at the same time he can't achieve the ultimate goal.

In Greek mythology exist a concept called 'Inescapable Destiny' (I can say it in Spanish but u think this translation is fairly correct) that means whatever you do, even if you know future, you end up creating that already written version of the future, you can't change anything. When Oedipus tried to avoid his future he ended up forging it, so not even knowledge can change anything in Greek mythology. So, we have the Uroboros in Founder chest doing a circular path, and in the game itself and Syndicate letter doing an infinite form, so this is why Syndicate tried to avoid you reading the letter but, at the same time, giving it to you at a specific moment, because if you try to change the destiny you want to avoid making the same mistakes, but you know when something will happen.
 

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I think Eternum is real, but the "real world" (ours) it is at least something different. Remember that Calypso tried to enter and she say she couldn't. And we are the only ones being able to use Exit Portals (she can't).
Uhh, correction. Calypso can travel to any world she's been to before, not to worlds that she hasn't been to. The exceptions to that is emergency portal jumping (which she has no control of as far as the destination is concerned) and opening portals leading to people whose presence she has tracked/is familiar with (which made her crucial in the Heist, as it got Alex, Annie, and Orion (MC) out of their predicaments without issue). It's likely that the latter has limitations (that being that she could track people she knows WITHIN Eternum, not outside its boundaries (more on that later)) given that she's still not at full strength though. Later on in the story though? Well, weirder things have happened.

Also, it's highly likely that exit portals only work on player avatars, not natives of Eternum like Calypso. It's possibly designed that way to prevent anything from tracking down the realm/dimension where the players are coming from (thereby preventing what I would like to call an "Astaroth" event).

If the Syndicate tried to communicate with us in both worlds, and Excommunication means death in ours, looks like Matrix. But with the other things I said I prefer to think it like Parallel planes or worlds that in some way aren't the same as the worlds (servers) in Eternum.
Or Eternum IS another name for the Astral Plane, player avatars are actually magitech-made astral projections/souls, and excommunication basically cuts off one's consciousness/soul from the body, leading to brain death and having said consciousness/soul trapped within Eternum and becoming brainwashed into an NPC. The Syndicate is able to track Orion down because of his perfect compatibility rating, and start trying to communicate with him through various means (mostly dreams, because as the Space Station audio logs have implied that seems to be one method of travel between Eternum and our world...which is also similar to the information mentioned regarding travel between the Astral Plane and the Physical/Material Plane).

My theory so far is that the Founder had a wife that was about to die (our world), so he followed some kind of myth and went to Greek temples and found the Gems of Doom. But he couldn't save her in time, so he used the power to create a path to this plane called Eternum because he wanted to recreate her or something like that. As a GM he created some stuff like a game, but he probably lost the power once used and needs other one to gather all again.
So maybe you are the chosen one (because you don't want power for bad reasons) or maybe you are the son of the Founder and her wife, so everytime you die or failed they restart everything with the Gems.
Jury's still out as to what Orion's backstory really is. I originally was on the camp that believed (well, I still am I suppose but I'm willing to be proven wrong) that he and Thanatos were Ulysses lab rats who got experimented on as kids, with the findings of said experiment leading to the creation of the neural implants. With the hints from 0.4 though, another possibility seems likely (and is theorized by some in this thread): that somehow somewhere, Orion died but was brought back to life. Originally I dismissed this because I thought it meant that he somehow got himself killed and was brought back (maybe through magical/necromantic means) and Annie and Chang and even Orion's dad never knew about it. Now though...I'm thinking that maybe it's less of that and more of "he got into an accident - possibly back when he was a kid - and went clinically dead for a moment and got so far as to travel through Eternum and to the pearly gates of Acheron...but before he could really cross over he got yoinked/kicked back into the living and walked it off before anyone could ID him."

This of course is another possible explanation to the compatibility rating. I theorized a while back that it's the rating that dictates how attuned you are to Eternum itself (either through exposure or bloodline-related, hence the thing with Alex's compatibility rating and Calypso originally mistaking her as a half-elf...maybe there is some truth there), possibly meaning that Orion was at some point exposed to Eternum, possibly through Ulysses experimentation with the neural implant. Now though, there's another possibility: his brief brush with death and stay in Eternum has marked him as someone that's basically an "honorary native," maybe even marking his soul as something similar to the members of the Syndicate/NPCs.

As to how said explanation ties with Orion meeting the Founder when the former was a kid...the most outlandish theory I could think of is that Orion met the Founder...in Eternum (0.4 seems to hint the possibility that the Founder doesn't exist in the Physical/Material Plane). That is, Orion basically bumped into him while he was traversing through Eternum on his way to the afterlife (or, while he was looking for a way back into the Physical/Material Plane). The Founder then either wished him luck and sent him on his way...or was the person that sent him back into his physical body, possibly marking him as a future ace-in-the-hole that he could use in his schemes later on.

And the Syndicate could be the bad ones or someone that were with the Founder in some time but then fractioned (the know about the loops).
I'm on the camp that believes that the Syndicate are former NPCs who somehow managed to get their neural implants fried somehow, which led to them becoming free but then find out that they couldn't cross over into the afterlife, and now they're trying their best to find anyone that could help them achieve said goal (maybe someone that they can see...like a person with a perfect compatibility rating, perhaps?).
 

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Does someone know the song that plays in Alex's scene in the last update?


You mean this song?
Check this channel, there is playlist "Eternum" with all soundtracks, if I'm not mistaken.
Someone provided us with link to this channel, but I dont remember his name. So all the respect goes to that gentleman.
 

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I actually kind of hate how most of these sex scenes with LIs are in "game" and not in "reality". I undestand that the game is like reality but it's still weird.
 
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I actually kind of hate how all these sex scenes with LIs are in "game" and not in "reality". I undestand that the game is like reality but it's still weird.
Yeah, can you imagine waking up from Eternum and still feeling aroused because it wasn't real? :(. But just you wait, wait till they get pregnant accidentally because they think they don't need to use protection in game. They are in for a rude awakening.
 

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I actually kind of hate how most of these sex scenes with LIs are in "game" and not in "reality". I undestand that the game is like reality but it's still weird.
Well, it's not that weird, because this is just 0.4 version. There will be more than enough "IRL" sex scenes later on, no doubts. There is absolutely no need to rush such things, imho.
 

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hey guys i have a doubt, in the coin scene, what is the right answer and what is its consequence? heads or tails ?
 

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You mean this song?
Check this channel, there is playlist "Eternum" with all soundtracks, if I'm not mistaken.
Someone provided us with link to this channel, but I dont remember his name. So all the respect goes to that gentleman.
Thanks man ;)
 

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hey guys i have a doubt, in the coin scene, what is the right answer and what is its consequence? heads or tails ?
The sequence was always head. Where you distracted by our gracious lounge host? :D Understandable. She threw the coin several time. I counted more the 4, i believe it was 6 over all and she always got head. I took an interest becasue shots 3 or 4 is when you expect to have head at last 1 different outcome because the chance become very narrow. Let's say she took 6 shots. To have all heads is a probability of 1 on 64, rather narrow. The sense of the scene, i think, is that something is off with statistcs at that moment. Rigged if you wish. But somehow adding Orion in the equation promotes the change that breaks the rule, somehow. If he makes the right choiches.
 
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Uhh, correction. Calypso can travel to any world she's been to before, not to worlds that she hasn't been to. The exceptions to that is emergency portal jumping (which she has no control of as far as the destination is concerned) and opening portals leading to people whose presence she has tracked/is familiar with (which made her crucial in the Heist, as it got Alex, Annie, and Orion (MC) out of their predicaments without issue). It's likely that the latter has limitations (that being that she could track people she knows WITHIN Eternum, not outside its boundaries (more on that later)) given that she's still not at full strength though. Later on in the story though? Well, weirder things have happened.

Also, it's highly likely that exit portals only work on player avatars, not natives of Eternum like Calypso. It's possibly designed that way to prevent anything from tracking down the realm/dimension where the players are coming from (thereby preventing what I would like to call an "Astaroth" event).



Or Eternum IS another name for the Astral Plane, player avatars are actually magitech-made astral projections/souls, and excommunication basically cuts off one's consciousness/soul from the body, leading to brain death and having said consciousness/soul trapped within Eternum and becoming brainwashed into an NPC. The Syndicate is able to track Orion down because of his perfect compatibility rating, and start trying to communicate with him through various means (mostly dreams, because as the Space Station audio logs have implied that seems to be one method of travel between Eternum and our world...which is also similar to the information mentioned regarding travel between the Astral Plane and the Physical/Material Plane).



Jury's still out as to what Orion's backstory really is. I originally was on the camp that believed (well, I still am I suppose but I'm willing to be proven wrong) that he and Thanatos were Ulysses lab rats who got experimented on as kids, with the findings of said experiment leading to the creation of the neural implants. With the hints from 0.4 though, another possibility seems likely (and is theorized by some in this thread): that somehow somewhere, Orion died but was brought back to life. Originally I dismissed this because I thought it meant that he somehow got himself killed and was brought back (maybe through magical/necromantic means) and Annie and Chang and even Orion's dad never knew about it. Now though...I'm thinking that maybe it's less of that and more of "he got into an accident - possibly back when he was a kid - and went clinically dead for a moment and got so far as to travel through Eternum and to the pearly gates of Acheron...but before he could really cross over he got yoinked/kicked back into the living and walked it off before anyone could ID him."

This of course is another possible explanation to the compatibility rating. I theorized a while back that it's the rating that dictates how attuned you are to Eternum itself (either through exposure or bloodline-related, hence the thing with Alex's compatibility rating and Calypso originally mistaking her as a half-elf...maybe there is some truth there), possibly meaning that Orion was at some point exposed to Eternum, possibly through Ulysses experimentation with the neural implant. Now though, there's another possibility: his brief brush with death and stay in Eternum has marked him as someone that's basically an "honorary native," maybe even marking his soul as something similar to the members of the Syndicate/NPCs.

As to how said explanation ties with Orion meeting the Founder when the former was a kid...the most outlandish theory I could think of is that Orion met the Founder...in Eternum (0.4 seems to hint the possibility that the Founder doesn't exist in the Physical/Material Plane). That is, Orion basically bumped into him while he was traversing through Eternum on his way to the afterlife (or, while he was looking for a way back into the Physical/Material Plane). The Founder then either wished him luck and sent him on his way...or was the person that sent him back into his physical body, possibly marking him as a future ace-in-the-hole that he could use in his schemes later on.



I'm on the camp that believes that the Syndicate are former NPCs who somehow managed to get their neural implants fried somehow, which led to them becoming free but then find out that they couldn't cross over into the afterlife, and now they're trying their best to find anyone that could help them achieve said goal (maybe someone that they can see...like a person with a perfect compatibility rating, perhaps?).
But Calypso said that she tried to travel to our world and wasn't able to. I'm inclined to understand it like there is some kind of difference between our world and Eternum ones (remember that we don't travel to Eternum, is more similar to Astral Projection in D&D but she travels using her own body, so if they rules differ that much I'm inclined to believe our world isn't the same as Eternum worlds/servers).

About Exit Portals, she said she tried to interact but nothing happened, so it's not like she can travel through them but without controlling the destination, she is just bound to different rules than ours.

And this is why I feel like she will not be able to travel to our world even if she is at full power. But as you said, stranger things have happened. If I have to guess an "ending" I believe we will go to live to Eternum (being it a "real" but different world) or something like that, where everyone will be able to live full adventures all the time.

About Syndicate communicating with us I'm with you. There is just one thing that bothers me: the sign about "Join the Syndicate" like if they were some kind of rebel group. Because if there wasn't a sign, it could be a mystic form of communication like dreams or visions, or even the little girl (even if they give you something no one saw them). But they even send a member to help you solve the mystery with Luna.
Si, are they in our world? The phone made it look like it, but they are in Eternum too. And they hacked your implant to send messaged. So it's hard to see the vision abd nightmares as related to them.


I think this will have a mystic explanation and there are a lot of "time travel" clues.

But about the MC being with The Founder in some point... Maybe MC is the Founder, but in some way he got stuck or reset everything while inside Eternum to save someone and ended leaving a spirit signature there.
Another possible explanation could be MC being Founders sun because if you gray MC hair they look kind of similar (hard to say sometimes).
Your theory about them being experiments or something related to that it's possible. But it's strange that we don't have already some flashback about that. But I like it.


The Syndicate being nps? Really interesting idea. It reminds me of Log Horizon anime, but here they probably are not npc, or maybe IA going rogue??
 

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hey guys i have a doubt, in the coin scene, what is the right answer and what is its consequence? heads or tails ?
She smiles if you say Tails. It's like the Syndicate message, you can read it (probably bad idea) but we still don't know the consequences.
I'll go with Tails, I don't want Idriel to become her darker version
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