VN Ren'Py Eternum [v0.8.6 Public] [Caribdis]

[hopefuldoc]

All the threesome talk made me ponder a bit and--
While I'm not saying I don't enjoy threesome scenes, I usually prefer romantic, intimite one-on-one scenes over them. E.g. the two scenes with Alex blew me away (literally) whilst that scene in the last update on the beach didn't really do it for me. I'm sure Caribdis won't neglect these kinda scenes over the FFM ones but, just a little worried I guess.

 

[danb35]

romantic, intimite one-on-one scenes

And Alex's do it for you? Christened Apartment was hot af, but I wouldn't describe it using either of those adjectives.

 

[hopefuldoc]

And Alex's do it for you? Christened Apartment was hot af, but I wouldn't describe it using either of those adjectives.

Romantic, maybe not so much but intimate for sure. Raw, passionate, whatever you call it. I don't get that from threesomes. You get the point, right?

 

[maxthruster]

Romantic, maybe not so much but intimate for sure. Raw, passionate, whatever you call it. I don't get that from threesomes. You get the point, right?

To each their own, I guess. I'd have a hard time saying threesomes aren't passionate and intimate, but it can depend on context - just as sex between only two people can. It's all just preference.

 

[danb35]

You get the point, right?

Maybe?

I also wouldn't consider "passionate" or "raw" as synonyms for "intimate." I'd describe Annie's scene in Andromeda as romantic and intimate. I'd probably describe Luna's scenes that way. Nova's scene in 0.7 I'd call at least semi-romantic and passionate. I haven't yet run through the current update yet (I need to hurry up and do it before 0.9 drops), so I can't speak to the scenes there.

But as I understand "romantic" and "intimate," I'd agree those qualities are less likely to be present in a threesome.

 

[guidedbyvoices]

I can kind of understand this, I don't agree but I understand where you're coming from. I'd say she classifies as femdom only if we really stretch the definition to "woman who doesn't immediately roll over and get plowed with the MC whips out his dick." She's assertive but not dominant, confident but not controlling. She knows what she wants and, once she gets over the whole age gap thing, isn't afraid to go for it.

Nancy had less femdom vibes early in the game, she went from loving housewive and mother, to matriarch in full control of everything, including sex. In contrast, Carla was very insecure until the end, like a teenager in love.

Also when the MC was nearly dead in Eternum, he openly said he is nothing without his girls, while in OIALT they were more like a support for him not to fall to the dark side, not the ones giving him his powers.

There is femdom as in she is in full control and he is a subordinate, and femdom as in she pegs him and burns his balls with cigarettes and so, I said "borderline femdom" because of course there is more room for femdom, but it's already a sharp contrast with OIALT where he was much more dominant and in control of situations, only Aiko was more dominant but the others were more submissive.

And she's a mature woman who uses her experience and wisdom to help guide things in the right direction, but I think that's largely a framing device to avoid the home stretch of the game involving either A) a bunch of awkward, forced dialogue about how all the girls are totally into being a harem, or B) having certain girls just totally unaware it's going on until the epilogue like in OIALT.

There's no need for forced dialogue, he is a superhero, the Chosen One, the G.O.A.T. , a young god in the making. Women are attracted to much less than that even IRL and when they are attracted to such individuals they don't care about anything else. They might not be superhappy about the harem, catfights and jealousy could be frequent but they would put up with it in exchange for being with the man of the age.

This on the other hand... huh? Appreciating what you have and making sure your partner is comfortable is femdom now, apparently?

The way it's portrayed in the last updates is closer to femdom than to the opposite, yes. And it's in clear contrast with OIALT, where none of this ever happened.

I think most people would be extremely thankful to have one of these girls interested in them, let alone eight. OIALT MC did the same thing, though admittedly usually while ogling some T&A. But associating Orion's relationships with Annie and Nova to femdom is laughable.

Thinking "I'm a lucky bastard" once in a while it's alright, but acting and talking like he should be thankful for having any kind of contact with them, every single minute, IS much closer to femdom than to the opposite. HE is the hero, he is on the way to be the next Founder, they are attracted to him because of that. In OIALT he wasn't an insecure pussy full of incel vibes, but in Eternum it looks like he is more insecure by the day, when he should be less so because he is being increasingly successful.

Tsundere isn't a matter of status or personal belief, it's an attitude. It's loudly and aggressively insisting that they totally don't care about you and have no interest in you while clearly caring and having interest. Caly may not be completely in tsundere territory yet, depending on preference, but she's getting there. Give it an update or two and I guarantee she'll fit the definition to a T.

She will blow the MC in 0.9, she already did a magical no contact handjob, so next step is a blowjob.

 

[grumbles097]

the dude who owns this thread said he isnt going to update it until its public so caribdis gets his money. if only the other 1000 game thread owners did the same on here lol. if i was a game creator i would just pay off whoever owns my games thread on here so update dont get releases early

I'm honestly fine with it. After a year, a couple more weeks hardly makes a difference, and the first release usually has a few bugs that are fixed for the public release anyway.

 

[The.World.According.To.Me]

The way it's portrayed in the last updates is closer to femdom than to the opposite, yes. And it's in clear contrast with OIALT, where none of this ever happened.

Thinking "I'm a lucky bastard" once in a while it's alright, but acting and talking like he should be thankful for having any kind of contact with them, every single minute, IS much closer to femdom than to the opposite. HE is the hero, he is on the way to be the next Founder, they are attracted to him because of that. In OIALT he wasn't an insecure pussy full of incel vibes, but in Eternum it looks like he is more insecure by the day, when he should be less so because he is being increasingly successful.

Sorry for the approaching wall...

First off, while there is a tiny connection to OLIAT in Eternum, I have never once while playing the latter thought to compare the 2 games (MC & Harem Members) as being the same or equal.

Orion was on the verg of death, would have in fact died if he had not been able to subconsciously teleport to Calypso (an ability he did not even know he had) to get saved. I assure you when you come that close to dying you tend to rethink things about your life (or at least most sane people would). Orion realized he had sort of been halfhearted in his pursuit of the girls and upon reflecting on his past actions realizes that he does indeed LOVE each of the girls, which he had not expressed in any form prior really, and that he is IN FACT grateful to have them in his life. (again normal, IMO, for most people)

His life before arriving back home was not that of the "fuckboi" he narrated himself to be on the train. He was more or less unpopular, a loner (with the exception of Chang and Annie) and not used to getting the attention of so many (beautiful) girls, so his thinking he is lucky is more or less an accurate thought, IMO, considering his previous experience. I also do not feel like the girls like him because he is on his way to being the next Founder (especially since he is in fact working to be the exact opposite of the current Founder), the girls are attracted to Orion for many reasons, Annie has been in love with him for 10 years, Nova because of the way he treats her and brought "life" into life. I could go on and on but we seem to be playing 2 totally different games. I mean, for what they are all trying to pull off, the girls all will need to be strong, capable and independent all while being able to function in a team environment and I would hate... hate to see them all become some simple minded sex slaves the moment they are naked with Orion and lose all their personality becoming some timid slave to their apparent master. But hey... that might just be me.

Now Nancy, while being aggressive towards Orion if because she has been single mostly for what... 10-12 years, she broke her walls down and figured she had to be (due to the age gap, I mean who would want an Sexy, beautiful, seemingly ageless old woman like her) and even in the elevator as she tries to take control, Orion takes it back and they split that control. Now, a woman telling her lover what to do during sex is not a bad thing, unless the guy is a control freak who things he is flawless and knows her body better than she does, so I don't see that type of coaching as a negative either.

I have played a game or two with femdom, not my favorite kink for sure, and have not felt that even once playing Eternum. Nor have I seen Orion as a lil bitch boy. He has very little experience, he is young & he has a lot of responsibility. He too thought he was the HERO until he was shot and laid dying, he still harbored those thoughts in the back of his head until Thanatos handed him his ass on a silver platter AGAIN, and maybe I am wrong but I think he will go through another moment of growth while in Calypso's land and maybe learn some real humility. Which might bring more offensive (to some) growth in his relationships with the girls. IMO, this would be a good thing for his character development if we are to believe he is to reign over a happy harem.

Wall is built and done, sorry... just some of the arguments/discussions here sometimes... ya know.

 

[daniel9825]

Someone have the soundtrack songs the game?

 

[Padorublad3]

Someone have the soundtrack songs the game?

You must be registered to see the links

 

[Spyderwraith]

Yes, with Calypso at least there is a hint of a shift towards their relationship becoming more leveled, but with Nancy it's the opposite, she is increasingly being the one in control and it isn't the only one. My memory is fuzzy now because of these hughnormous development times, but I think I recall the last Nova and Annie scenes where also portrayed as if he is super froggy about them not being into him or something like that, like if he is the one who should bow down and be grateful he got their attention because he lacks any confidence in himself. In OIALT he was much more confident, you can see this in LIs like Rebecca (the teacher) or Carla (the family mother).

Calypso did play a soft dom part in her scene in the bathtub, I wouldn't call her tsundere because she truly believes she is superior to anyone else and she approached the MC from fundamental superiority. I think it's stronger than the tsundere concept, which is more like a popular girl in high school talking to a lesser popular guy or nerd, and not a divinity/god/entitled noble like Calypso is.

I would like to explain myself more, but I know the BS "offtopic" practice of deleting everything that aren't screenshots so it's sadly pointless since all of this will probably be deleted even though it's not offtopic and it's on Eternum topic.

The one Nova scene where she is a double was basically him being blindsided by the more sexual Nova, which is not arguably "Femdom" moreso a "you didn't wanna jump on my dick 5 seconds ago and now you suddenly do, there must be something wrong here"
"I'd argue if the MC just suddenly decided to say "oh fuck yeah suck my dick" I'd be a bit more perplexed with the nature of the shift in behaviour.


He saying he is honoured in the Calypso scenes isn't really femdom either. I mean do you want him to be all like "No you should be honoured I'm even speaking to you. Suck my dick bitch! Dominance! FUCK YEAH"?

"oh boy I'm gonna see Calypso Naked" isn't him being a pussy it's him being an 18 year old about to see a naked chick.
Unless of course you think all dominant men think "Fuck yeah bitch get naked DOMINANCE Fuck yeah"

As for Nancy She's gaining confidence in her desires and she's playing up a Mommy fantasy, is that femdom? or in the heat of the moment fetish exploration that allows the MC to continue to get railed by the thicc woman who is arguably his mother in all but name?
"Do you like how mommy rides you"
"No suck my dick bitch DOMINANCE FUCK YEAH"
???

his reverence for Annie isn't Femdom or MC is a pussy syndrome either it's a "I've had this chick as my best friend since I was a kid I am happy she feels the same way I do"

I mean would it make you feel better if the MC was like Benjamin?
"Stop what you're doing and come with us immediately"
"No fuck you suck my dick bitch DOMINANCE FUCK YEAH"?

Furthermore, do you think a dominant man who goes to a museum because his wife wants him to is a pussy because he's doing what the wife wants to do instead?
Should all dominant men just say "Fuck you wife, I don't give a shit what you want to do, suck my dick bitch DOMINANCE FUCK YEAH"?
"Fuck you suck my dick bitch DOMINANCE FUCK YEAH"

 

[cat games > /dev/null]

Some people really need some romance in their life... lol

 

[dargdd]

although not possible , i really hope game drops before dec 5th, thats when i am free

 

[danb35]

Nancy, while being aggressive towards Orion if because she has been single mostly for what... 10-12 years

Wasn't it closer to 18? I thought her husband had left shortly before or after Dalia was born; MC never met him.

unless the guy is a control freak who things he is flawless and knows her body better than she does

...and since this is the first time MC has had sex in the "real world," that would be even more stupid of him than it might otherwise be.

 

[The_Barbarois]

Another fantastic update!

Still the only game I play the update immediately

the only one when ripples and steps of debauchery come out with updates its already downloading

 

[Nox321]

Luna is best girl

that is all

 

[guidedbyvoices]

His life before arriving back home was not that of the "fuckboi" he narrated himself to be on the train. He was more or less unpopular, a loner (with the exception of Chang and Annie) and not used to getting the attention of so many (beautiful) girls, so his thinking he is lucky is more or less an accurate thought, IMO, considering his previous experience.

I mean, for what they are all trying to pull off, the girls all will need to be strong, capable and independent all while being able to function in a team environment and I would hate... hate to see them all become some simple minded sex slaves the moment they are naked with Orion and lose all their personality becoming some timid slave to their apparent master. But hey... that might just be me.

Yes, I agree, it's totally normal he wasn't a fuckboi from the beginning, but he was in fact more confident with women in the early game than he is in the last updates, and that was my main point.

He was more manly, or less of a sissy (however anyone wants to look at it) when he started romancing i.e. Nancy, Penelope or Annie. He couldn't have romanced Alex if he was like that either.

In OIALT there were no simple minded sex slaves, which was what I compared Eternum to. Rebecca and Carla were great LIs older than the MC, full of doubts about themselves and their relationships with the MC but without any of the femdom vibes.

My favourite Eternum LI is Penelope and she is far from a simple minded sex slave, it costed the MC a great effort to romance her because she is a famous social media influencer who could have thousands of men. I liked her LI because she behaves closer to how young women actually behave, she is cold and distant with anyone else other than the man fucking her senseless, with which she enjoys being passionately submissive and dirty, with a stronger commitment than Alex which is similar in some regards but she is much more of an uptight bitch about to jump ship any minute.

The only comparable LI in OIALT to the general vibe of the last updates was Aiko, that's what last updates Eternum feels like. Even Annie was being less innocent and passive, only Luna remains as innocent and passive although with her goth twist.

I also do not feel like the girls like him because he is on his way to being the next Founder (especially since he is in fact working to be the exact opposite of the current Founder), the girls are attracted to Orion for many reasons, Annie has been in love with him for 10 years, Nova because of the way he treats her and brought "life" into life. I could go on and on but we seem to be playing 2 totally different games.

I very much doubt that so many girls, and so many girls into the same harem would be possible with the MC being a regular guy or just being himself without his superpowers. And I'm of course talking inside this lore, where a doubt could even exist.

Now, a woman telling her lover what to do during sex is not a bad thing, unless the guy is a control freak who things he is flawless and knows her body better than she does, so I don't see that type of coaching as a negative either.

Yes, lots of men see it that way, it's just not my thing and for that I prefered OIALT and early Eternum general tone. I really dislike what you called as (female) "coaching" but I enjoy when she starts sex interactions, so you don't need to be a control freak not to be into femdom.

He saying he is honoured in the Calypso scenes isn't really femdom either. I mean do you want him to be all like "No you should be honoured I'm even speaking to you. Suck my dick bitch! Dominance! FUCK YEAH"?

YES, I WOULD HAVE LOVED IT, I WAS EAGER FOR IT

I really hoped there was an option to play that scene as a proud man, like in Penelope scene in the dorm room where you are asked if you like it more dominant or less. Even just taking her hand and she giving him a handjob with her own hand, or even better telling her you aren't having any of her entitled royalty behaviour because you are a free man.

But no, we had a male submissive, soft femdom scene with the MC being a pussy, to much rejoice for several of the commenters here it seems.

"oh boy I'm gonna see Calypso Naked" isn't him being a pussy it's him being an 18 year old about to see a naked chick.
Unless of course you think all dominant men think "Fuck yeah bitch get naked DOMINANCE Fuck yeah"

That 18 years old had very recently banged quite a few hot girls, he didn't need to lower himself just to see another one naked.

As I said, I would have rejected her entitled attitude because I'm a free man not into femdom.

As for Nancy She's gaining confidence in her desires and she's playing up a Mommy fantasy, is that femdom? or in the heat of the moment fetish exploration that allows the MC to continue to get railed by the thicc woman who is arguably his mother in all but name?
"Do you like how mommy rides you"
"No suck my dick bitch DOMINANCE FUCK YEAH"
???

YES, MOMMY PLAY IS INHERENTLY FEMDOM

And I ain't having any of it, all for you.

his reverence for Annie isn't Femdom or MC is a pussy syndrome either it's a "I've had this chick as my best friend since I was a kid I am happy she feels the same way I do"

I mean would it make you feel better if the MC was like Benjamin?
"Stop what you're doing and come with us immediately"
"No fuck you suck my dick bitch DOMINANCE FUCK YEAH"?

YES, I WOULD RATHER HAVE PREFERED THAT

I'm not bossed around by any woman, like it's done in femdom which I'm not into

Furthermore, do you think a dominant man who goes to a museum because his wife wants him to is a pussy because he's doing what the wife wants to do instead?
Should all dominant men just say "Fuck you wife, I don't give a shit what you want to do, suck my dick bitch DOMINANCE FUCK YEAH"?
"Fuck you suck my dick bitch DOMINANCE FUCK YEAH"

It depends, if he goes to a museum he doesn't like at all, just because his wife wants, but otherwise she doesn't boss him around and then she would go from time to time to an activity he enjoys but she doesn't, then it's an acceptable concession in a relationship.

But if after going to the museum, she pegs him and burns his balls with a cigarette, then no, that's femdom and I'm much more into DOMINANCE FUCK YEAH

 

[maxthruster]

Yes, I agree, it's totally normal he wasn't a fuckboi from the beginning, but he was in fact more confident with women in the early game than he is in the last updates, and that was my main point.

He was more manly, or less of a sissy (however anyone wants to look at it) when he started romancing i.e. Nancy, Penelope or Annie. He couldn't have romanced Alex if he was like that either.

In OIALT there were no simple minded sex slaves, which was what I compared Eternum to. Rebecca and Carla were great LIs older than the MC, full of doubts about themselves and their relationships with the MC but without any of the femdom vibes.

My favourite Eternum LI is Penelope and she is far from a simple minded sex slave, it costed the MC a great effort to romance her because she is a famous social media influencer who could have thousands of men. I liked her LI because she behaves closer to how young women actually behave, she is cold and distant with anyone else other than the man fucking her senseless, with which she enjoys being passionately submissive and dirty, with a stronger commitment than Alex which is similar in some regards but she is much more of an uptight bitch about to jump ship any minute.

The only comparable LI in OIALT to the general vibe of the last updates was Aiko, that's what last updates Eternum feels like. Even Annie was being less innocent and passive, only Luna remains as innocent and passive although with her goth twist.




I very much doubt that so many girls, and so many girls into the same harem would be possible with the MC being a regular guy or just being himself without his superpowers. And I'm of course talking inside this lore, where a doubt could even exist.




Yes, lots of men see it that way, it's just not my thing and for that I prefered OIALT and early Eternum general tone. I really dislike what you called as (female) "coaching" but I enjoy when she starts sex interactions, so you don't need to be a control freak not to be into femdom.




YES, I WOULD HAVE LOVED IT, I WAS EAGER FOR IT

I really hoped there was an option to play that scene as a proud man, like in Penelope scene in the dorm room where you are asked if you like it more dominant or less. Even just taking her hand and she giving him a handjob with her own hand, or even better telling her you aren't having any of her entitled royalty behaviour because you are a free man.

But no, we had a male submissive, soft femdom scene with the MC being a pussy, to much rejoice for several of the commenters here it seems.



That 18 years old had very recently banged quite a few hot girls, he didn't need to lower himself just to see another one naked.

As I said, I would have rejected her entitled attitude because I'm a free man not into femdom.




YES, MOMMY PLAY IS INHERENTLY FEMDOM

And I ain't having any of it, all for you.




YES, I WOULD RATHER HAVE PREFERED THAT

I'm not bossed around by any woman, like it's done in femdom which I'm not into




It depends, if he goes to a museum he doesn't like at all, just because his wife wants, but otherwise she doesn't boss him around and then she would go from time to time to an activity he enjoys but she doesn't, then it's an acceptable concession in a relationship.

But if after going to the museum, she pegs him and burns his balls with a cigarette, then no, that's femdom and I'm much more into DOMINANCE FUCK YEAH

So, to summarize, if a woman is not a simpering, innocent, insecure damsel in distress who lies back and lets the man tell her what to do it's femdom?

 

[Spyderwraith]

Yes, I agree, it's totally normal he wasn't a fuckboi from the beginning, but he was in fact more confident with women in the early game than he is in the last updates, and that was my main point.

He was more manly, or less of a sissy (however anyone wants to look at it) when he started romancing i.e. Nancy, Penelope or Annie. He couldn't have romanced Alex if he was like that either.

In OIALT there were no simple minded sex slaves, which was what I compared Eternum to. Rebecca and Carla were great LIs older than the MC, full of doubts about themselves and their relationships with the MC but without any of the femdom vibes.

My favourite Eternum LI is Penelope and she is far from a simple minded sex slave, it costed the MC a great effort to romance her because she is a famous social media influencer who could have thousands of men. I liked her LI because she behaves closer to how young women actually behave, she is cold and distant with anyone else other than the man fucking her senseless, with which she enjoys being passionately submissive and dirty, with a stronger commitment than Alex which is similar in some regards but she is much more of an uptight bitch about to jump ship any minute.

The only comparable LI in OIALT to the general vibe of the last updates was Aiko, that's what last updates Eternum feels like. Even Annie was being less innocent and passive, only Luna remains as innocent and passive although with her goth twist.




I very much doubt that so many girls, and so many girls into the same harem would be possible with the MC being a regular guy or just being himself without his superpowers. And I'm of course talking inside this lore, where a doubt could even exist.




Yes, lots of men see it that way, it's just not my thing and for that I prefered OIALT and early Eternum general tone. I really dislike what you called as (female) "coaching" but I enjoy when she starts sex interactions, so you don't need to be a control freak not to be into femdom.




YES, I WOULD HAVE LOVED IT, I WAS EAGER FOR IT

I really hoped there was an option to play that scene as a proud man, like in Penelope scene in the dorm room where you are asked if you like it more dominant or less. Even just taking her hand and she giving him a handjob with her own hand, or even better telling her you aren't having any of her entitled royalty behaviour because you are a free man.

But no, we had a male submissive, soft femdom scene with the MC being a pussy, to much rejoice for several of the commenters here it seems.



That 18 years old had very recently banged quite a few hot girls, he didn't need to lower himself just to see another one naked.

As I said, I would have rejected her entitled attitude because I'm a free man not into femdom.




YES, MOMMY PLAY IS INHERENTLY FEMDOM

And I ain't having any of it, all for you.




YES, I WOULD RATHER HAVE PREFERED THAT

I'm not bossed around by any woman, like it's done in femdom which I'm not into




It depends, if he goes to a museum he doesn't like at all, just because his wife wants, but otherwise she doesn't boss him around and then she would go from time to time to an activity he enjoys but she doesn't, then it's an acceptable concession in a relationship.

But if after going to the museum, she pegs him and burns his balls with a cigarette, then no, that's femdom and I'm much more into DOMINANCE FUCK YEAH

Dare this be likened to kink shaming, because i DO NOT kink shame,
but do you even know how women even work?

 

[Spyderwraith]

So, to summarize, if a woman is not a simpering, innocent, insecure damsel in distress who lies back and lets the man tell her what to do it's femdom?

At this rate I feel like in the heat of passion if the woman screams "fuck me harder" it's Femdom