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Dorfnutter

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No one interprets a generalisation as meaning "everyone," nor does it imply that critical people had nothing positive to say. Generalisations describe the prominence of criticism, not the exact proportion of people offering it. This is standard English usage.
Prominence implies that facts on the contrary are few, not that they are of equal measure or varies wildly, which is the case on the reception of Dalia's scene.

A generalisation like “cats are aloof” does not imply that every cat is aloof. It simply refers to a commonly observed trait. How many cats need to be aloof to call it "common"? There is no fixed percentage of 50% or 100%; it depends purely on context and perception, which is the purpose of generalisations.
Not applicable when again, evidence on the contrary exists when generalizations are usually made under a bubble. The bubble has been burst, so now you continue to say that the generalization is still apt? Sounds like being willfully blind, if you ask me.
 

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Ladies, ladies, you're both pretty. Can we all agree that some people like it and some people don't and get back to bickering about something that matters, like who's gonna be the first girl to realize creampie consequences?
Do not underestimate the will of two autists duking it out on a pirate porn forum.
All jokes aside, we clearly see the language from two different perspectives, so not much is going to change our minds. We are both too stubborn lol, so there is little point in continuing.
Who was the first girl to receive a creampie? Was it Nancy? However, Cari might not make her a valid option for pregnancy content since she is already a mum. Otherwise, I think it would be Alex? I would guess her. She already joked about it to see Orion's reaction (which might not end up being a joke).
 
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Prominence means something is easily noticeable or seen. It does not imply a majority, and no one was arguing that the criticism outweighed the positive feedback, just that it was visible, especially in the contexts I mentioned earlier.
Then the wording should've reflected that instead of the post generalizing the overall community's sentiment to the negative.

It's not evidence on the contrary; it's evidence in support. Calling it mixed aligns with the statement (the criticism was noticeable), which shows that, ultimately, we are in agreement on the topic in question, just using language from different angles and struggling to convey our meaning to each other effectively.
Noticeable is a far cry from what the post was implying. Again, spin it however you want, it does not change what the statement implied. Or agree to disagree, if you think this argument is going nowhere.
 

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Who was the first girl to receive a creampie? Was it Nancy? However, Cari might not make her a valid option for pregnancy content since she is already a mum.
Well, to be fair, I'm pretty sure Carla was the first to reveal in his last game, so Nancy isn't ruled out - though I'd be a little surprised if he went with the MILF first both times. Alex seems like a fair guess, though Annie might be the most narratively fitting. Part of me is hoping it's Nova.
 

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Who was the first girl to receive a creampie? Was it Nancy? However, Cari might not make her a valid option for pregnancy content since she is already a mum. Otherwise, I think it would be Alex? I would guess her. She already joked about it to see Orion's reaction (which might not end up being a joke).
I'd be a tad upset if Alex does end up preggers from the content we've received so far (and assuming the player had it enabled). Part of it is narratively, she has the whole swimming olympics going for her and uhh woof. From a gameplay perspective,
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I'd be a tad upset if Alex does end up preggers from the content we've received so far (and assuming the player had it enabled). Part of it is narratively, she has the whole swimming olympics going for her and uhh woof. From a gameplay perspective,
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I mean technically you waive that right to agency the moment you chose "pregnancy on" at the beginning of the game (why people would choose to turn that on but still choose to pull out during scenes, I will never understand).
 
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Well, to be fair, I'm pretty sure Carla was the first to reveal in his last game, so Nancy isn't ruled out - though I'd be a little surprised if he went with the MILF first both times. Alex seems like a fair guess, though Annie might be the most narratively fitting. Part of me is hoping it's Nova.
I haven't played OIAL, but if he has done MILF preggers content before, then for sure, Nancy could be the prime choice, considering she was creampied first. I also know there can be large time skips in between updates, so maybe some girls are even further along than we realise...
I agree that Annie would be a very suitable option narratively. Annie is also my favourite, so I would like that.
Several could also be revealed at once (or very near each other), so who knows what Cari will cook up!
 

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It did reflect that.
No it didn't. When you invoke that a community is heavily criticizing something, you cannot read that as only a loud minority being responsible for it. If you think otherwise then no, I do not and will not agree with how you see it.

Anyway, this is going nowhere. You think he didn't step out of line with his overgeneralization, I believe his statement does not fully reflect what the community thinks about it and I have the screenshots to prove it. We'll just have to agree to disagree.
 

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I mean technically you waive that right to agency the moment you chose "pregnancy on" at the beginning of the game (why people would choose to turn that on but still choose to pull out during scenes, I will never understand).
I sorta get that. If pregnancy enabled means every creampie = baby (regardless of player input) is a common standard in this medium, I'm not aware of it as a I'm just a recent entrant. I'm just going by the predecessor and basing expectations off that.

EDIT: In Alex's case, I feel like she would be worse equipped for the situation. Like maybe MC/player wouldn't want to get the one girl whose hopes and dreams are for swimming olympics pregnant, but maybe that's too much player-avatar projection.

At the same time, accounting for all the permutations of those outcomes for what I'd want/expect might be too much of a narrative clusterfuck. End of the day, this is Cari's story to tell.
 
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I sorta get that. If pregnancy enabled means every creampie = baby (regardless of player input) is a common standard in this medium, I'm not aware of it as a I'm just a recent entrant. I'm just going by the predecessor and basing expectations off that.
To be fair, Cari's method of having the pregnancy question being asked in the beginning isn't common practice in the industry (usually it really depends on whether the player made the choice right at the end of any penetration scene). I just think that he prolly has those unavoidable creampie scenes in mind when making this game so having that be tied to the pregnancy question is a deliberate design choice.
 

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No it didn't. When you invoke that a community is heavily criticizing something, you cannot read that as only a loud minority being responsible for it. If you think otherwise then no, I do not and will not agree with how you see it.

Anyway, this is going nowhere. You think he didn't step out of line with his overgeneralization, I believe his statement does not fully reflect what the community thinks about it and I have the screenshots to prove it. We'll just have to agree to disagree.
I think it's a very reasonable reading, considering that frequent invocations of "community criticism" often come from a vocal minority. Within gaming, movie/TV show communities, whenever people aggregate on social media to voice concerns, or in political protests, it is almost always a vocal minority.
Even in typical observations of life, like the cats being aloof, dogs are afraid of thunderstorms and vacuum cleaners, or roads flood after a heavy storm, generalisations observe a noticeable trend. This is why people typically interpret generalisations this way; they are used to describe what stands out, not how a majority or every single cat, dog, or road behaves.
Both he (I assume) and I agree with your screenshots lol. They support our position rather than disproving it. It's a casual conversation of opinions on a porn forum - no one "stepped out of line".
At least we kept the conversation cordial and friendly, that a good sign of healthy disagreement.
Now I'd better go and erase my comments before the mods come and delete them for me, especially since I want to keep the half that contains Eternum conversations.
 
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Agree with all your comments.
However, on a positive note, the thing I loved about the Dalia scene was her constant climaxing and her shaking each time. Even though it was the same animation being played, it was still hot.
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I also loved the end when she is panting, and you can see her chest expanding. Maybe that one's just me, but I really liked that.
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I wish I had the technical knowhow to make a webm of these scenes to showcase the animations I enjoy, but I have no clue how, so images will have to do! :ROFLMAO:
You’re right, there are flashes of greatness in that scene. You mentioned two of them, the climaxing and right after the creampie, another great part is the initial BJ, it’s fucking great. Thats what makes the scene such a disappointment, parts of it are great, but most of it is entirely underwhelming. It’s like having a Hawaiian pizza with great bacon and pineapple, but everything else sucks - could be peak, ends up mid.
 
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Woah! I have never seen this
You can see this scene by choosing "Persuade Penelope to get naked" during the first photography session.
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Btw, another easily missed scene is when Regina invites you to the locker room after the party — this was added after version 0.5.
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