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Gorehound Gal
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btw,did anyone ever actually check these numbers or it's always according to changelog :unsure:
I'm not even sure how they count the lines of code exactly.

Couldnt RenPy games use some kind of authentication using Patreon to stop piracy? I once subbed to a GTA V mod that had auth steps the first time u open the game. I had to log into Patreon to use the mod
They could, but it would be incredibly easy to mod that out.
 
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Gelinhogelado

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This update is really good, the game is so good it feels so short... but we know the incredible work that went into all the routes :)
 

Undz

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It could be thought of as a business expense. If cari has an old school view of piracy, he could do it.
I, for example, went for Eternumite once and considered Demon lord for 0.8's release, but when I realised that it gets leaked here too, i never considered DL again
This update is really good, the game is so good it feels so short... but we know the incredible work that went into all the routes :)
please tell me btc valuation at the end of 2026
 

maxthruster

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could cari release a different version for each demon lord (cuz there can't be that many) and see which one gets leaked and close it / bug it instantly?
As mentioned, there are ways to do checks of who's leaking, both in game code and in release method. As for the remote bricking, I don't think that's a thing with Renpy - again, it's all offline, and Cari doesn't exactly control your hardware - but he would be able to figure out who's doing it and ban them from his pages. A dedicated pirate could still just make an alt and start the process all over, but it's doable.
 

Busykitty

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1.0 is by definition the full version.
However, the update following 0.9 is 0.10, which is not the same as 1.0.

0.9 is not a decimal number, and the dot (.) is not a decimal dot. You can't do normal arithmetic with it.
That not what I was asking about. The other person said that there's going to be "1.0 cliffhangers", I was trying to decipher that.
 

scottieM123

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AVNs get huge popularity boost from F95 tho tbh. Im sure their discord communitites and patreon etc subs increase even if it gets leaked here - so there are plenty of positives. People sub on patreon or buy the game mainly to support creator
 
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Dorfnutter

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That not what I was asking about. The other person said that there's going to be "1.0 cliffhangers", I was trying to decipher that.
They were talking about this.

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And yes, the guy who mentioned 1.0 cliffhanger is wrong. 0.10 is what comes after 0.9 since 1.0 is the final version of the game (and likely what Cari will call the public version of 0.13).
 

maxthruster

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AVNs get huge popularity boost from F95 tho tbh. Im sure their discord communitites and patreon etc subs increase even if it gets leaked here - so there are plenty of positives. People sub on patreon or buy the game mainly to support creator
Its a numbers game, at the end of the day. There's crossover between pirates and paying customers, but how much? Some people in this thread are year-round patrons, and some sub to the patron when there's an update or have given money through sites like Itch. I'm sure there are plenty who would give money if they had no other way to get the game quickly - though obviously there's also the option of being patient, since it's free - but how many are they, and how high would they go? And how many people in the thread would never give a single cent to a dev, even if they had all the money in the world, because they feel entitled to get things they like for free as a reward for liking them?

At the end of the day, it's impossible to know the answers to these questions. There's no metric by which we can measure the number of people playing the game vs the number of people paying for the game, and even if we took a poll of people in this thread I'm sure we'd get plenty of people lying just because they're conditioned to feel bad that they aren't financially supporting the dev, even though they may have legitimate reasons. But the core of the argument is that every sub lost is money lost, so the more people feel they don't have to sub because they got the game early for free, the less money comes in.
 
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