VN Ren'Py Eternum [v0.9.4] [Caribdis]

[hzjujk]

Your theory is not logical, brother. A player needs a visor to connect Eternum and it's just one. Orion's visor was still at Nova's when he got shot, so he can't tell Nova he connected to Eternum at Carter's. Nova is a very smart gal, no way she would buy that. All I'm saying Orion can't hide the fact that he's dead.

There is just one theory that most Eternum players have a consensus on. I mean of course there're others, but only one makes sense to most players.

According to the theory Calypso sense Orion's life in danger during in her deep-meditation and teleport Orion to Eternum and heal him there, then teleport Orion back to the real world.

How can she sense Orion? It is not clear yet how she can do that but we know she can sense Orion in Eternum. It's been told us in EP4. Meaning it is a fact. There's no reason why she shouldn't sense Orion in real life too.

How can she teleport Orion to Eternum? Another one that is not clear yet but we know Orion can go to Eternum without using his visor. He already did that in EP5. Unintentionally, yes. But he can do that. It's the point. Also no one has a doubt of her teleportation skill, right?

How can she heal Orion in Eternum? Like she did that in EP3. She healed not only Orion but also Nova and Alex.

It should be reminded again that this is just a theory. Until someone comes with a better one, this is the best we have got.

The idea of different universes would be nonsense. Not only would the "creator" have found a way to transfer information from one universe to another, which seems completely impossible when you look at the information paradox of black holes. But if you take the theories about Orion's miraculous healing by transferring it to a "magical universe", the "creator" must also have somehow managed to transfer matter from one universe to another and back.
Apart from the fact that if it really was Calypso who "transferred" Orion and healed him with magic, the question of the interface would have to be clarified. How should a "magical being" interact with a "non-magical being"?
How should a "magical being" "eat" its way through protocols, source code and firewalls, a being that probably still believes that in its world the sun revolves around the planet. By Calypso meditating?
What should such a transfer look like that Calypso initiates. Orion is broken down on a quantum level, transferred in the form of source code, i.e. as pure information, and then recreated atom by atom in a world without technology. Because that's what "teleporting" means to me.
I'm not saying that Cari can't write it like that, because it's all just pure fantasy.

 

[Steuan]

I really hope Calypso gets upgraded from "Other" to full romance option at some point.

She says no man can touch her. But we'll see about that. Eh? Hehe.

The idea of different universes would be nonsense. Not only would the "creator" have found a way to transfer information from one universe to another, which seems completely impossible when you look at the information paradox of black holes. But if you take the theories about Orion's miraculous healing by transferring it to a "magical universe", the "creator" must also have somehow managed to transfer matter from one universe to another and back.
Apart from the fact that if it really was Calypso who "transferred" Orion and healed him with magic, the question of the interface would have to be clarified. How is a "magical being" supposed to interact with a "non-magical being"?
How is a "magical being" supposed to "eat" its way through protocols, source code and firewalls that probably still believe that in its world the sun revolves around the planet.
What should such a transfer that Calypso initiates look like. Orion is broken down on a quantum level, transferred in the form of source code, i.e. as pure information, and then recreated atom by atom in a world without technology. Because that's what "teleporting" means to me.
I'm not saying that Cari can't write it like that, because it's all just pure fantasy.

I'm afraid I have to disagree with you here, brother. Your thoughts about magical being and non-magical being kinda look pre-mature to me. Does it really matter that if it is a sword wound or a gunshot wound? It's just a pile of meat. There is magic in Eternum, yet you're questioning Calypso's magical healing talent? All she has to do creating a portal to teleport Orion to Eternum, heal him there like she did in EP3, and then send him back to the real world through the same portal. Orion has 100% compatibility with Eternum. So he can go to Eternum whenever he wants without using any equipments. He did that a couple of times already. Unintentionally, yes. But he can do this. There is no doubt. Also there is really no need to explain this with quantum psychics. If so, it would be impossible to travel another dimensions right? In real life we know only subatomic particles can do that. Besides this game is a fiction, not a science.

 

[hanumania]

The idea of different universes would be nonsense. Not only would the "creator" have found a way to transfer information from one universe to another, which seems completely impossible when you look at the information paradox of black holes. But if you take the theories about Orion's miraculous healing by transferring it to a "magical universe", the "creator" must also have somehow managed to transfer matter from one universe to another and back.
Apart from the fact that if it really was Calypso who "transferred" Orion and healed him with magic, the question of the interface would have to be clarified. How should a "magical being" interact with a "non-magical being"?
How should a "magical being" "eat" its way through protocols, source code and firewalls, a being that probably still believes that in its world the sun revolves around the planet. By Calypso meditating?
What should such a transfer look like that Calypso initiates. Orion is broken down on a quantum level, transferred in the form of source code, i.e. as pure information, and then recreated atom by atom in a world without technology. Because that's what "teleporting" means to me.
I'm not saying that Cari can't write it like that, because it's all just pure fantasy.

but how do i cumbs

 

[Ass prefer]

She says no man can touch her

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[hzjujk]

She says no man can touch her. But we'll see about that. Eh? Hehe.

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I'm afraid I have to disagree with you here, brother. Your thoughts about magical being and non-magical being kinda look pre-mature to me. Does it really matter that if it is a sword wound or a gunshot wound? It's just a pile of meat. There is magic in Eternum, yet you're questioning Calypso's magical healing talent? All she has to do creating a portal to teleport Orion to Eternum, heal him there like she did in EP3, and then send him back to the real world through the same portal. Orion has 100% compatibility with Eternum. So he can go to Eternum whenever he wants without using any equipments. He did that a couple of times already. Unintentionally, yes. But he can do this. There is no doubt. Also there is really no need to explain this with quantum psychics. If so, it would be impossible to travel another dimensions right? In real life we know only subatomic particles can do that. Besides this game is a fiction, not a science.

Right, it's all pure fantasy. That's why you should stop connecting it to reality.
I mean, Cari can write Orion's healing like that, and I won't stop playing this game because of it, but I won't be able to stop grinning at this nonsense either.

 

[BoltonGuy35]

Maaaybe these dreams have a bigger part to play in the story!?
Didn't orion wake up in a mortuary during one of these dream sequences?
Maybe this is a hint.... Or I am just waaaay over thinking it lol

Also the founder gave orion the artifact that means he become immortal in Eternum and it happens to works in the 'real world' as well...

Whatever the outcome i'm hyped for version 8

 

[e6mill]

Also the founder gave orion the artifact that means he become immortal in Eternum and it happens to works in the 'real world' as well...

Having the founder's doohickey or not doesn't change anything (about the current ending) so far. It could make a difference in the next update.

 

[rudy007]

Maaaybe these dreams have a bigger part to play in the story!?
Didn't orion wake up in a mortuary during one of these dream sequences?
Maybe this is a hint.... Or I am just waaaay over thinking it lol

Also the founder gave orion the artifact that means he become immortal in Eternum and it happens to works in the 'real world' as well...

Whatever the outcome i'm hyped for version 8

I think morgue scene was a vision, not dream... And a good starting point for next episode. I was surprised why Caribdis created this scene at all. But it could be reused as start of v0.8...
I didn't take Founder's artifact because walkthrough didn't suggest it , I don't think that Founder's artifact has anything to do with his abilities... He show us various strange abilities before, his 100% compatibility is the cause of his abilities, I think...

 

[MagnusTempestus6]

She says no man can touch her. But we'll see about that. Eh? Hehe.

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I'm afraid I have to disagree with you here, brother. Your thoughts about magical being and non-magical being kinda look pre-mature to me. Does it really matter that if it is a sword wound or a gunshot wound? It's just a pile of meat. There is magic in Eternum, yet you're questioning Calypso's magical healing talent? All she has to do creating a portal to teleport Orion to Eternum, heal him there like she did in EP3, and then send him back to the real world through the same portal. Orion has 100% compatibility with Eternum. So he can go to Eternum whenever he wants without using any equipments. He did that a couple of times already. Unintentionally, yes. But he can do this. There is no doubt. Also there is really no need to explain this with quantum psychics. If so, it would be impossible to travel another dimensions right? In real life we know only subatomic particles can do that. Besides this game is a fiction, not a science.

About the first part, she does say human explicitly, and I'm nitpicking here because there were theories flying around already that Orion might not be 100% human. So that would result in something like...

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As for the second part I totally agree. There is a lot of soft world building in Eternum were it isn't really explained what exactly is possible and what not. We also have strong hints at there not really being a creator at all, and the things happening are happening totally within the laws Caribdis made up for Eternum. There is also no sense in trying to go all sciency on the phenomena we have seen so far. The bleeding events alone shift this into supernatural imo. Then again, we also do not know if the realms of Eternum are really different universes or just different places within one universe separated by more than just simple space. Maybe this will become clear in one of the later updates.

 

[Ass prefer]

Don't you think that the game lacks some long-lasting mundane moments with girls? like holding hands or taking long walks in the park? it seems there are similar moments, but my senile memory remembers as if everything quickly gets down to fuck
no dates, no hugs and declarations of love
Although Orion seems to be courting girls, but everything looks like a fucking test just to get a chance to get into a girl's panties

 

[Hector Wimbleton]

Don't you think that the game lacks some long-lasting mundane moments with girls? like holding hands or taking long walks in the park? it seems there are similar moments, but my senile memory remembers as if everything quickly gets down to fuck
no dates, no hugs and declarations of love
Although Orion seems to be courting girls, but everything looks like a fucking test just to get a chance to get into a girl's panties

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[Ass prefer]

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[Jaga Telesin]

All she has to do creating a portal to teleport Orion to Eternum, heal him there like she did in EP3, and then send him back to the real world through the same portal. Orion has 100% compatibility with Eternum. So he can go to Eternum whenever he wants without using any equipments. He did that a couple of times already. Unintentionally, yes. But he can do this. There is no doubt. Also there is really no need to explain this with quantum psychics. If so, it would be impossible to travel another dimensions right? In real life we know only subatomic particles can do that. Besides this game is a fiction, not a science.

Except that it's been inferred (and demonstrated through other people from the "real world") that none of them are actually travelling to other dimensions. It was almost stated at one point that it was astral projection happening. MC's might be slightly different, but he's woken up coming out of Eternum before with someone in the room, so if he HAD disappeared and traveled, they'd be totally freaked out by his sudden re-appearance in the real world. Up until now, he's stayed in the real world while visiting other dimensions.

From that perspective, any healing that happens to his astral projection, would -not- happen to his body in the "real".

It's a bit of a dilemma for the MC at this point, but I see him as either manifesting his power in the real and somehow being able to treat his own wounds, or by someone finding him and healing him. Given that the sneak peek shows more pirate stuff happening, they're likely still on the trail of the treasure, so mundane healing in the real is pretty much out. He'll end up finding a way to overcome his own wounds (or pull Calypso to him in the real), and move on relatively quickly.

That's my .02 on it, based on available info and game lore anyway.

 

[MagnusTempestus6]

It's a bit of a dilemma for the MC at this point, but I see him as either manifesting his power in the real and somehow being able to treat his own wounds, or by someone finding him and healing him.

One other thing could be that, as a big surprise for the start of 0.8, Orion actually traveling realms for the first time now. Leaving only blood splatters behind for the police to find. This could tie into the limbo theory or meeting a shocked Calypso or other LI's in Eternum and having Orion either stuck there like Thanatos or return to earth later.

Edit: I know Thanatos was in Eternum when he died, but with Orion having his perfect compatibility and Idriel appearing at the end of 0.7 I would argue it could still happen, either leaving his body behind or not, either is possible.

 

[bitofaperv]

I don't know if this is the game's greatest strength, or its greatest weakness... but...

I like all the girls equally. I literally could not pick a favourite. Maybe if you held a gun to my head and forced me, I might pick Annie.

I'm not even sure how Caribdis did it. The right blend of stereotypes? The character development? The back stories?

All I know is that every VN I have ever played has had at least one girl I wanted nothing to do with, except this one.

 

[sexypeanut]

Don't you think that the game lacks some long-lasting mundane moments with girls? like holding hands or taking long walks in the park? it seems there are similar moments, but my senile memory remembers as if everything quickly gets down to fuck
no dates, no hugs and declarations of love
Although Orion seems to be courting girls, but everything looks like a fucking test just to get a chance to get into a girl's panties

I agree and more than once said that on discord. I think Annie is the one with more 'mundane moments' - while Luna is the only one holding hands with Orion.

If this game was just a slice of life one, I'm certain more moments like that would show up. However, the VR metaplot takes precedence and steals lots of time that coild be given to dates with the girls or just hanging around with them - or, heck, even Chang! They don't do a single bro activity together...

 

[Ass prefer]

I agree and more than once said that on discord. I think Annie is the one with more 'mundane moments' - while Luna is the only one holding hands with Orion.

If this game was just a slice of life one, I'm certain more moments like that would show up. However, the VR metaplot takes precedence and steals lots of time that coild be given to dates with the girls or just hanging around with them - or, heck, even Chang! They don't do a single bro activity together...

After all, I am not alone in my opinion and also noticed the routine Thank you.
But maybe it was done intentionally, maybe everyone is already tired of this cliche

 

[tiklin7778]

if i subscibe to cari's patreon just for a month, will i still be able to chat afterwards?

 

[Machete]

Am I the only one to think that Orion's life should be saved by the internationally renown surgeon and former president Mike Stabbs?

 

[ArDZer]

Am I the only one to think that Orion's life should be safe by the internationally renown surgeon and former president Mike Stabbs?

If former president Stabb happens to be visiting Kredon, he'll be doing the city a favour by making those two junkies vanish from the streets, especially the beanie wearing scumbag that shot the protagonist (and in a excruciatingly slow and painful manner).