LusterDemon

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If I'm not mistaken, that was early in 0.7, where Annie was explaining to Nova that the crew of One Piece had gone on strike, thus ruining (in Nova's mind) Nova's plans for her date with MC.
I thought so cuz this looks like Annie's older hotter sister
 
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Damn, she looks gorgeous there.
Guess I'm going to take the minority view--Annie and Luna both look different to me in 0.7 vs. 0.6 and earlier, and I'm not really a fan. Not that they don't still look good, but I think they look better earlier in the game (though Annie can keep growing her hair).
 
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I don't understand Alex's character tbh, many millions of people would kill to be the child of a multi-billionaire no matter how much of an abusive psycho he is. Take Tiffany from Superhuman, she understands her privilege and is....or was willing to marry a guy she didn't like at all. If Alex had waited only like 10 years before she started rebelling, she could have used the money and connections to build herself up and then distance herself from the family
Even one year can be too long when you have abusive parents, let alone ten. And I do fully understand her not wanting anything from him, not his money, not his connections, nothing at all. It's not just a matter of being pragmatic. It's a matter of self respect, and a matter of survival.
 

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Even one year can be too long when you have abusive parents, let alone ten. And I do fully understand her not wanting anything from him, not his money, not his connections, nothing at all. It's not just a matter of being pragmatic. It's a matter of self respect, and a matter of survival.
I have had a similar childhood to Alex , And She is 100 percent relatable
 

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Even one year can be too long when you have abusive parents, let alone ten. And I do fully understand her not wanting anything from him, not his money, not his connections, nothing at all. It's not just a matter of being pragmatic. It's a matter of self respect, and a matter of survival.
yea i guess she does deserve respect for trying to make it on her own
 

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I don't understand Alex's character tbh, many millions of people would kill to be the child of a multi-billionaire no matter how much of an abusive psycho he is. Take Tiffany from Superhuman, she understands her privilege and is....or was willing to marry a guy she didn't like at all. If Alex had waited only like 10 years before she started rebelling, she could have used the money and connections to build herself up and then distance herself from the family
And what exactly does she gain from having a billionaire dad if all that means is she can't live a free and self-determined life? It isn't her money and she can't do much with it while being totally under the control of someone else.

Yes, there are people who are okay with that, but there are also rebellious types that rather take care of themselves than to live without freedom. In the end money is just a means to gain more freedom and to have a larger choice to do what you want to do. But if having money actually means the opposite, what is the point of it to begin with? Or is she supposed to wait for William to die in like 30+ years and just hang in there for the time being?

Implying Annie isn't hot to begin with. :cautious:
Comparative, my dude. :Kappa:
 
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I guess the disagreements about Alex are only natural. It's exactly the kind of thing that predicts. For all of Alex's life, her physiological and safety needs have been satisfied. There was never a time when she had to worry about (1) hunger, homelessness or similar fundamental problems. And there wasn't even a time when she had to worry about being the victim of (2) crime or an incurable disease or financial ruin.

For those among us who grew up struggling on one of these two most fundamental levels, this makes her situation absolutely enviable.

In early childhood even the next two levels of needs were satisfied for Alex. Her grandmother definitely gave her what her father did not want to give her and her mother felt she was not allowed to give her: (3) love and belonging. I assume her grandmother also (4) gave her respect, recognizing her achievements and instilling her with a sense of self respect.

When her grandmother died, Alex lost all sense of being loved; she no longer had the intimacy of a real family. She did keep her self respect, but as she was not respected by her father (and her mother was fully concentrated on him, basically ignoring her), it became fragile. This is probably why she worked so hard on her swimming career. It gave her the respect of her peers (though it could never be cleanly separated from her social status) and the hope of at least some rudimentary respect from her parents. This way she kept the fourth level of needs satisfied even after she had lost the third, which is fundamental for being able to really enjoy the fourth. She probably hoped to be able to gain her father's love through his respect, but it clearly didn't work.

For those among us who grew up with the two most fundamental levels of needs satisfied, her desperate situation is absolutely relatable. It's objectively not as bad as when even the lower levels aren't satisfied, but it feels as bad.

Then suddenly Orion comes along out of nowhere and gives her his respect freely and genuinely. Respecting her as herself, not as the daughter of her father. By concentrating on this, she can have her fourth level of needs fully satisfied for the first time since her grandmother's death, and in a way that is unrelated to attempts to be loved by her family. This changes her perspective. It frees her to look for love and belonging elsewhere.

And there is an obvious place to look. Back when she did not have to worry about being respected, it was one person that gave her that: her grandmother. And that person was also who gave her love, belonging and intimacy. Making it natural for her to look to Orion for the same now.
 
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incest patch when
Not really even possible for this game. There are no scenes with characters who would be relevant for that. So a "patch" would have to be more like a full sized DLC with the same sort of renders and animations you would expect from the dev and entirely new storylines not present in the base game. It's not like you could just do a simple find/replace for landlady or whatever like some games.
 

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Not really even possible for this game. There are no scenes with characters who would be relevant for that. So a "patch" would have to be more like a full sized DLC with the same sort of renders and animations you would expect from the dev and entirely new storylines not present in the base game. It's not like you could just do a simple find/replace for landlady or whatever like some games.
I have no interest in an incest patch, but it wouldn't be that hard. In fact, it's basically already prepared in the story as it is. Orion grew up with his father, his mother barely playing a role. Nancy was his babysitter and a mother figure for him. Nancy's daughters were like sisters for him, and their father never plays a role. Just make a divorced couple out of Orion's father and Nancy, and you have a serious incest story with very little change.

Technically this can probably be implemented just like a translation. In fact just a partial translation, so a small patch with relatively little work. Sure it's more work than replacing a few words mechanically, but it's not as hard as you made it appear.
 
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